Donald Trump

[Hostblapstat]

He's a good comedian, that's about it xD.

Lmao. I have to agree with that.

 

[Se Rogue]

Well, in terms of the tweet about the racial disparity of shooters being 99% black/hispanic, he said 1% white vs the actual 2.5% white (97% black/hispanic). Is he poorly sourced and often incorrect? Yeah. Racist? A bit of a stretch.

With the tweet about Jeb's wife, there is nothing racist about saying your opponent having a wife who immigrated from Mexico might influence his policy on Mexican immigration.

With the "crime, drugs, rape" comment, he's mostly right. As usual, it has political propaganda behind it, and the problem would better be solved if absurd regulations on arms, drugs, and travel were removed instead of building a big ass wall.

My issue with his statement was the blatant generalization of Mexican immigrants as rapists. Come on, now.

 

All the candidates are shit, but at a bare minimum, having someone who has a lifetime of experience generating profit in their job is far better than having someone who has a lifetime of experience generating debt.

When you inherit 40-200m, it's not hard to make a profit. Please stop praising his accolades as if he rose to the top from the bottom. He's been at the top since birth. Many billionaires have inherited their wealth. It's not an impressive feat when you compare his story to someone like Mark Cuban, who actually started from the bottom.

Please get a better argument.

 

[Wins]

Hey is a massive troll and only thing good about him is that he can fund shit. His ideas are crap and he doesn't even know how to run for president. IM not even sure if he will win.

 

In no way am I dismissing any arguments. In no way am I a proponent of Ad Hominem arguments. However, Donald Trump does seem to have a bit of a racist mentality.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...rentice_star_and_republican_presidential.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p0V-1WrDPg

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/donald-trump-blames-crime_n_3392535.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1syqkd1uf8w

Those are all very far left news sources. You have to understand to the left everything is racist. Oppose welfare? You're racist. Enforcing immigration laws? You're racist. Doing yoga? You're obviously racist because cultural appropriation.

Trump is running as a Republican, so by default he's a "racist" in the eyes of the left. He's not politically correct, so people are bound to get "triggered" and offended. I didn't see a specific example in there of hatred or race superiority. Pointing out statistics, proposing policy, etc isn't 'racist'

I don't know if you know anything about me, but I'm an anarchist. I don't want any politician to violently rule over our lives, I don't agree with Trump's policies or rhetoric. I love bashing on politicians, they deserve it. But honestly calling someone racist and dismissing everything they have to say by default is pretty weak.

 

[Se Rogue]

Those are all very far left news sources. You have to understand to the left everything is racist. Oppose welfare? You're racist. Enforcing immigration laws? You're racist. Doing yoga? You're obviously racist because cultural appropriation.

Trump is running as a Republican, so by default he's a "racist" in the eyes of the left. He's not politically correct, so people are bound to get "triggered" and offended. I didn't see a specific example in there of hatred or race superiority. Pointing out statistics, proposing policy, etc isn't 'racist'

I don't know if you know anything about me, but I'm an anarchist. I don't want any politician to violently rule over our lives, I don't agree with Trump's policies or rhetoric. I love bashing on politicians, they deserve it. But honestly calling someone racist and dismissing everything they have to say by default is pretty weak.

Generalizing a group of people as criminals and rapists seems racist to me.

 

[Ronaldo7]

No ones gonna vote for him lol, I believe his entire campaign is just one huge troll attempt.

Hey is a massive troll and only thing good about him is that he can fund shit. His ideas are crap and he doesn't even know how to run for president. IM not even sure if he will win.

Theres a 0% chance he will win mate.

 

[Xier0]

When you inherit 40-200m, it's not hard to make a profit. Please stop praising his accolades as if he rose to the top from the bottom. He's been at the top since birth. Many billionaires have inherited their wealth. It's not an impressive feat when you compare his story to someone like Mark Cuban, who actually started from the bottom.

Please get a better argument.

I never claimed he was a rags to riches example, all I stated was that it's better to have people in authority who have a better financial record by an infinite margin. Making billions in profit is a better indicator of success rather than an immeasurable amount of debt, regardless of how much you started with.

There are so many better reasons to criticize trump (arbitrary taxation, his position on gov't spying, absurd opinions on vaccines, etc) than making up the story that he is a racist, or that his wealth accumulation was complete luck.

 

[Hostblapstat]

I highly doubt Donald Trump will actually be elected president though. If he does.....sigh

 

[Frodon]

I really hate him lol , I dont know why anyone would vote for him.. If hes actually elected... welp...

 

Generalizing a group of people as criminals and rapists seems racist to me.

Yeah, except that's not quite how it went.

 

I never claimed he was a rags to riches example, all I stated was that it's better to have people in authority who have a better financial record by an infinite margin. Making billions in profit is a better indicator of success rather than an immeasurable amount of debt, regardless of how much you started with.

Why is that? Do you think he'll take us out of this financial hole? A hole he's never been in his whole life since everything was given to him on a silver platter since birth. Do you not realize how poor this reasoning is?

There are so many better reasons to criticize trump (arbitrary taxation, his position on gov't spying, absurd opinions on vaccines, etc) than making up the story that he is a racist, or that his wealth accumulation was complete luck.

He's running the most racist campaign in presidential candidacy history. Are you some type of racist apologist who purposely blinds himself to the obvious?

There are too many reasons to list as to why he is not fit for the position.

Yeah, except that's not quite how it went.

When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Am I missing something here?

 

[Xier0]

Why is that? Do you think he'll take us out of this financial hole? A hole he's never been in his whole life since everything was given to him on a silver platter since birth.

Such vehement strawman. I invite you to read my argument again, and realize that I never argued that Trump would make America any greater in the slightest.

Do you not realize how poor this reasoning is?

My reasoning is literally that financially profitable people are more likely to be better leaders than those who accumulate generations worth of debt. How you could possibly think that it would be "poor reasoning" to have financially proficient people over financially inept people in leadership positions is, quite frankly, troll level stupidity.

He's running the most racist campaign in presidential candidacy history. Are you some type of racist apologist who purposely blinds himself to the obvious?

Then why can't anyone post anything racist that he has said?

There are too many reasons to list as to why he is not fit for the position.

Clearly there are many reasons to not vote for him, but anti-rich/anti-white propaganda is not.

Am I missing something here?

I don't know... maybe a lesson in elementary geography? Mexico is a nation, not a race.

 

[Se Rogue]

Yeah, except that's not quite how it went.

This is how he refers to immigrants:

They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

What went so differently in your eyes?

I don't know... maybe a lesson in elementary geography? Mexico is a nation, not a race.

It was very obvious what he was referring to. Mexico sends Mexican people. No-one except you is interpreting that statement in such a literal way.

 

Such vehement strawman. I invite you to read my argument again, and realize that I never argued that Trump would make America any greater in the slightest.

I did. You insinuated his financial status would have a benefit in office. Once again however, you fail to expand on your position. I will cover this a little more below.

My reasoning is literally that financially profitable people are more likely to be better leaders than those who accumulate generations worth of debt.

Better leaders in what way? By the way... Every president inherits a debt from the previous one, making it virtually certain that the pile of debt is going to grow.

How you could possibly think that it would be "poor reasoning" to have financially proficient people over financially inept people in leadership positions is, quite frankly, troll level stupidity.

You're looking at financial status alone. That is by far a poor quality to seek in a presidential candidate. You should be more worried he doesn't abuse his position to seek more money.

Then why can't anyone post anything racist that he has said?

You have to be kidding me.

When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Clearly there are many reasons to not vote for him, but anti-rich/anti-white propaganda is not.

Anti-white? Anti-rich? What in the world?

I can guarantee most minorities will vote for Bernie Sanders who I believe is white.

Anti rich? Where did you get that from?

I don't know... maybe a lesson in elementary geography? Mexico is a nation, not a race.

He's referring to Hispanics. Are you dense?

 

[Xier0]

What went so differently in your eyes?

Mexican immigrants, specifically illegal immigrants, trade drugs and commit violent crime, including rape, at a higher rate than domestic Americans. Is this different in your eyes?

It was very obvious what he was referring to. Mexico sends Mexican people. No-one except you is interpreting that statement in such a literal way.

Yes, it is very obvious what he was referring to. Mexico does send Mexican people. As I already mentioned, Mexican people are not a race of people. "Illegal Immigrants" are not a race of people either.

 

[Program]

According to him, he is leading all the polls. If it's true, best get used to him.

 

[Xier0]

I did. You insinuated his financial status would have a benefit in office. Once again however, you fail to expand on your position. I will cover this a little more below.

I'm going to stop you here. The reason I'm not expanding on ""My"" position, which you keep on attacking, is because I don't hold those views that you are attacking, hence, the obnoxious repeating strawmans. I am a Voluntaryist, I think anyone who considers becoming a part of the enforcement of the state in any way is committing pure evil. I don't support or defend the state's "budget", "debt", "taxes", "borders" or any such thing, so I'm not going to indulge your ludicrous idea that these things should even be allowed in the first place.

Anti-white? Anti-rich? What in the world?

Don't pretend like whites and rich people aren't openly demonized in the media.

I can guarantee most minorities will vote for Bernie Sanders who I believe is white.

He's the one who will steal the most money on their behalf. Of course they are going to vote for him.

He's referring to Hispanics. Are you dense?

Except that he never refers to Hispanics, he refers to illegal immigrants, which are not a race, and Mexicans, which are not a race. When someone asks your race, do you reply, "American"? No. You reply "White" or "Hispanic" or "Black" or "Asian", etc

 

I'm going to stop you here. The reason I'm not expanding on ""My"" position, which you keep on attacking, is because I don't hold those views that you are attacking, hence, the obnoxious repeating strawmans. I am a Voluntaryist, I think anyone who considers becoming a part of the enforcement of the state in any way is committing pure evil. I don't support or defend the state's "budget", "debt", "taxes", "borders" or any such thing, so I'm not going to indulge your ludicrous idea that these things should even be allowed in the first place.

Let me stop you right there. Stop skipping over your points and EXPAND on your position.

I never claimed he was a rags to riches example, all I stated was that it's better to have people in authority who have a better financial record by an infinite margin.

Why is it better to have people in authority who have a financial record by an infinite margin?

Is it not common knowledge that Donald Trump inherented a vast amount of money? Should we praise him for being heir to this prize that was already established, and use that status to deter those of a lesser income status?

Making billions in profit is a better indicator of success rather than an immeasurable amount of debt, regardless of how much you started with.

Can you not be so broad? Who are you referring to? I've already explained the debt issue in my previous post.

Don't pretend like whites and rich people aren't openly demonized in the media.

You mean the wallstreet guys who are openly breaking the law and using their wealth as a get out of jail free card?

You need to give me more examples of whites and rich people being "demonized".

He's the one who will steal the most money on their behalf. Of course they are going to vote for him.

You know he has other talking points, right? One in specific is to stop funding prisons.

Is he white or not? If there is an anti-white movement going on, so many minorities wouldn't be in favor of him because he's white, correct? Or is that not how the movement works?

Except that he never refers to Hispanics, he refers to illegal immigrants, which are not a race, and Mexicans, which are not a race. When someone asks your race, do you reply, "American"? No. You reply "White" or "Hispanic" or "Black" or "Asian", etc

The United States Census uses the ethnonym Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race.

/derp

 

[Se Rogue]

Mexican immigrants, specifically illegal immigrants, trade drugs and commit violent crime, including rape, at a higher rate than domestic Americans. Is this different in your eyes?



Yes, it is very obvious what he was referring to. Mexico does send Mexican people. As I already mentioned, Mexican people are not a race of people. "Illegal Immigrants" are not a race of people either.

I'd like to refer you to this chart, because I have a strong feeling you have no statistical facts to back up that claim you just made.

He is referring to Mexican immigrants. Mexican is a race. Drop the semantics.