Donald Trump

Political correctness at its finest here.

Statistically, he's not lying. Blacks are a minority, yet commit a large fraction of all crimes in the US. As for Mexico/South America https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm the amount of preventable crime along our border states should speak for itself.

People stretch the truth in their attempt to label him racist. Both parties don't want Trump to be president, and I actually find this beyond amusing simply because the majority of the reasoning is simply ad hominem attacks while touting "well so-and-so is better!" with no reasoning behind it.

Personally, I would have hoped Rand Paul would replace Trump, but that's obviously not happening at this point.

E: Wow some people are hopeless when I read "blacks are targeted."

I immediately think of this now whenever I read this garbage.

 

Sounds like you are discriminating against people because of how much money they have.

 

Well his understanding and grasp of foreign policy is laughable at best, that is a place to start. His lack of any practical platform is next. The fact that he is literally just a walking joke when it comes to politics. He is running solely off the fact that he doesn't give a fuck what he says or what facts he has to back it.

 

he said we should kill civilians and families of terrorists as well as take oil in the middle east yea ok that will stop people from wanting to kill Americans

 

Why not Trump? I honestly cant see him being any worse then Obama... I at least respect Trump for being honest about his opinions and views. He doesnt hide them behind political correctness and bullshit. I like that he's using his own money and has no other influence's. I think he wants to fix america and make our home prosperous again. I think enemies will fear attacking america with trump in office. Personally i think a striking a little fucking fear is what we need.

 

Quite honestly I think a lot of people are voting for him just for the bandwagoning and the hype and surprise of a recognised name potentially becoming a high profile politician.

Australia had a slightly similar case when one of our billionaires created the Clive Palmer Party (Our political system is different to the states, and is similar to the system used in the United Kingdom.) He was voted in as a member in our parliament at his first election. He's crazy, arrogant and very outspoken at times, not to different to Trump.

Anyways, people are already over him. He'll be out at our next election. His excitement is over.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/do-othe...trumps-of-course-they-do-20150709-gi96gm.html

 

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This pretty much sums up my view on Trump.

What you see is what you will get.

/little offtopic

Ghast, you are a fine example of a liberal dipshit. You get absolutely destroyed by good arguments in every thread I read, may it be your views on hitting children or politics, makes no difference. You remind me of people who say: "Hey this video/comment has 51% downvotes, so you are wrong". Just because you have the support of the stupid masses doesn't mean you are right.

In a way I understand that a fair amount of young people(you obviously included) have been raised/educated to hate themselves (for example: we are destorying the planet, we are supporting child labour, we steal resources from other countries etc), but at 1 point you must wake up and practice some critical thinking to free yourself. I honestly hope it happens to you as soon as possible. The self-hatred coming from you is too common for this day and age. But I guess this is a +1 to state propaganda, cause people who think like you love the expanding hand of the state and actively promote it. End of rant.

 

Trump has no political experience. His rebuttal to critical talking points regarding the position is "I'll learn it in office". If Obama wasn't on his second term, I'd guarantee he'd beat Trump by a landslide, more so than Mitt Romney. He's feeding off the fears of Americans which is the only reason why he's leading in conservative polls, that, and there are no good candidates running for the republican party. Instead of throwing the usual temper tantrum, as you do often, let's debate. Not being politically correct doesn't make you an unquestionably fit candidate for President. That's the only thing Trump has going for him. I've only heard him speak of national security and immigration, both of which are unrealistic, at least from his perspective.

 

I will not even go into the IRS scandal etc that your loved dems pulled in order to win. Dems are shady as fuck with the abuse of power and I don't even understand why people would vote for them at all after that. Actualy I know, because they are self-hating sheep who will attack anyone who even slightly slips from the PC agenda. Don't think, just follow!


The main reason I'd vote for Trump is that I trust him to get the best people possible to help him. Even if he was as stupid as people paint him to be(you included) then somehow he has succeeded in surrounding him with the very best(9bil net worth does say something) and I think that's as good as it gets. If he manages to do the same as president then good for him, if he can't then pohoo. It honestly couldn't be worse than the rape apologist or the communist.

About things being realistic or not, I honestly don't know (AND NEITHER DO YOU), but I do know that radical change is needed to turn this around and any of the other candidates that could actualy win will not cut it. I'd give Trump a good 0.01% success rate but that's about it.

 

There are multiple "scandals" from both parties that don't represent the party as a whole because that's an ignorant way to view things.

A republican scandal:

Source

Should I label the republican party as sex offenders who pay victims in hush money to avoid reporting sexual abuse to the police?

Trump in '04: 'I probably identify more as Democrat'

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I guess Trump was once a "self-hating sheep who followed the PC agenda".

So, you're putting your trust in the people around him instead of him specifically? Who are these people you're putting your trust into?

Donald Trump's networth as of 2015 is 4b, not 9.

It's funny you say that, Donald Trump was accused of being a rapist, and a rapist apologist of sorts. Even went as far as saying to Mike Tyson "you should've paid off the victims to keep quiet".

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Donald Trump is a fascist.

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Trump wants to build a 2,000 mile long wall across the southern border and deport illegal immigrants who are legally bound by law. Are these things realistic to you?

Yeah, let's dump an astounding debt to triple immigrant agents, and a 2,000-mile-long impenetrable wall along our southern border! That surely won't increase the debt ceiling at all!

Should I also mention Trump's interest in war? You know war costs money, right?

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The guy is clueless.

 

Funny watching that video. The way he talks is the exact same and with the exact same confidence but from a different point a view. He's brilliantly to be honest: playing into the fear of people and into the evangelicals to get votes. I honestly think he's one of those people who are insanely power-hungry. He's rich and has power with his company, but he constantly wants more attention and power...and he knows what to say to get it

Things that he openly supports: Bombing civilians, waterboarding and other torture techniques, not allowing muslims into the US, and deporting 11 million people. Just lol

 

Poor Donald Trump he had a tough life growing up, he only got a million dollars from his dad. https://www.facebook.com/BallerAlertcom/videos/1156382364390759/

 

You just made a pro Trump statement without even realising it. Trump is being attacked by both the dem's and rep's. Also stop putting words into my mouth, I didn't state that rep's don't have any scandals. Stop using strawmans in every reply you do. It's just stupid and will make any reasonable person to dismiss all your arguments(even the ones that have a hint of knowledge in them).

No idea, but I know that the odds of them working for Trump is high and with other canditates it seems to be the other way around.

He says 9, other people claim 4.5. I'd imagine it's something in between, but does it really matter if it's 4bil or 9bil? Would it change anything about the claim of him being able to surround him with the very best? 4bil is plenty in my eyes.

I could not find anything about him being taken to court for sexual assault or paying people off. I know for a fact that Clinton payed atleast 1 women out of court and Hillary helped him in the process. Basicly facts vs unprooved statements and if your standard is unvalidated statements then I don't see a point in argueing with you.

Let's lable someone fascist and then attack him based on stuff fascist have done. Pretty sure this is some sort of fallacy again. Jesus christ man, your debating tactics are so obviusly shit. Starting to regret I even took my time to reply to this.

Great wall of china is over 10000 miles long, can a 2000 mile wall be built? It would be retarded to claim that it isn't possible now and yes I just called you a retard to suggesting it's not realistic. Now the 2nd part. Can laws be changed? Yes, so this fixes the legally bound part. Can illegal people be deported? Yes, again it can be done. Just because something doesn't seem realistic to you doesn't mean it can't be done.

Have not done the math and pretty sure neither have you but my guess is that the money US would save from not paying illegals would quickly pay for the wall. Without the math your statements is dogshit.

This is another pile of dogshit, nothing to reply to.

You my friend are clueless.
In most countries you don't get citizenship unless one of your parent has citizenship and guess what, it works. In my country of origin that's how it works, but if you learn the native language and pass a test on the local laws then you can also apply for citizenship. It's an easier process for minors under 15 years of age.


In conclusion you still rely of fallacies even though that's what I called you out on. Are you brain-damaged or do you purposely debate like this? My bet would be on the latter. Libtards be libtards.

 

Oh lord, read your replies.

Republicans have done things just as bad, if not worse than democrats, at least from that specific example you gave. You only gave one example as to why dem(s) are "shady as fuck". If you're going to go with that narrative, it's best you use more than one example that isn't solely respective to one person.

Who is "them"?

Do you have a source of him saying he's worth 9b?

I believe I said "accused", not taken to court. His ex-wife wrote about it, and he's publicly supported "paying victims" to keep quiet. He's also a good friend of the Clinton's. I've only said facts so far.

What? Trump is in fact a fascist. What do you call someone who supports communist ideologies? A communist. In the link I gave it shows 7 fascist examples that Trump has manifested to reality, not counting him wanting to keep all Muslims from entering the country.

I never said it was impossible to build a 2,000 mile wall.

As you would say:

I said the idea is unrealistic. If you didn't already know, or was not aware, congress needs to approve new laws. His proposed laws wouldn't pass because they're ridiculous.

I'm not understanding what you're saying here. Save from not paying illegals what?

Why would you want someone in office who supports things that cost A LOT OF MONEY to act on without proper cause? Donald Trump has not proposed any funding plans in the slightest.

Your replies consist of inaccurate information and ad hominems. Try to maintain some civility here.

 

I support Donald Trump.

He's straight to the point and knows how to weave in and out between these scumbags.

 

I know that they both display a different perspective towards their reasoning of these decisions, but this is the way I see things in layman's terms. For example, there are some points that Trump makes regarding illegal immigration that I consider sound, but the way he is going all about it is just wrong and immoral.
http://puu.sh/lNTKc/2d4c64a6fe.jpg

 

Just another reason why Trump should be president:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/

He's such an American.

/sarcasm

 

lmao when people use comparisons to Hitler as arguments (other than fact they both have magnificent haircuts)

 

hence the term "layman's"

 

in layman's terms you are basically trump cause ur both human
don't see how making the bold statement can be justified by saying "in laymen's terms" Is the point ur leading to that you believe Trump will try and conquer Europe
even bringing it up is the dumb thing imo