Do not allow lure discussion/etc

[ChristmasCracker]

Luring is tricking another playing into going somewhere, in game, where they do NOT want to go. And then you, or a friend, kills them and takes their items that they did not want to lose.

Scamming is tricking another playing into giving you items, and them expecting something in return. You taking their items they didn't want to lose

In my eyes, it's the same shit.



"If they are stupid and got lured, they deserve to lose their items"
"If they are stupid and got scammed, they deserve to lose their items"

No one deserves to lose anything that they didn't intend on losing. It's cruel.

 

[Warjunkie]

Seconded.

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Luring is scamming. They should be banned.

 

[SuF]

Luring, account recovering, dual tricks, etc all used to be perfectly acceptable. The shift is occurring as more people are here to use the market, rather than cheat. This was a cheating website and now its obviously a market website. Honestly, just decide if you still want to endorse cheating or not.

 

[Karl]

Luring, account recovering, dual tricks, etc all used to be perfectly acceptable. The shift is occurring as more people are here to use the market, rather than cheat. This was a cheating website and now its obviously a market website. Honestly, just decide if you still want to endorse cheating or not.

account recovering is not cheating, its cracking, which is a type of hack. If an account is recovered then sold on here which is then recovered by the original owner, thats a scam, I could never accept that.

 

[Scottay]

I don't necessarily agree, it is part of the gameplay. Users that are better or more experienced at Runescape will not fall for these lures. It is basically an aspect of the game that we cannot change. You cannot get punished for luring in game, so why should we punish or not allow it from being discussed here. This is essentially not allowing people to talk about a big aspect of Runescape. If we started doing this we would have to stop talking about staking glitches too which is another big discussion point. No support from me, it is simply another aspect of the game.

 

[Austintheman]

I thought we already had this topic as soon as free trade was reintroduced.
Anyway, i fully support this, as it's the same thing as stealing.

 

[ChristmasCracker]

I don't necessarily agree, it is part of the gameplay.

Scamming is also part of normal gameplay.
Double gp thing

 

[Emperor Nero]

Luring, account recovering, dual tricks, etc all used to be perfectly acceptable. The shift is occurring as more people are here to use the market, rather than cheat. This was a cheating website and now its obviously a market website. Honestly, just decide if you still want to endorse cheating or not.

This.

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[ChristmasCracker]

This.

Recovering is a form of hacking, like Karl said.
Recovering is stealing someones account.

 

[aus aaz]

Luring takes alot of skill and planning and I think if you can "trick" idiots out of thir bank using thier lack of understanding game mechanics then you are entitled to a chunk of thier bank.

Account recovery, password scamming should not be seen in the same light as luring..

Edit: PKing is also taking items people dont want to lose, the fact is no one WANTS to lose items. But everyone eventually does.

 

[Scottay]

Scamming is also part of normal gameplay.
Double gp thing

Yea it is, and as people gain more experience with the game they learn to avoid those scams. However that is an aspect of the game which should be dealt with in game only. They are doing no harm to the people on Sythe. It is different when people scam real life money on Sythe though.

 

[ChristmasCracker]

Luring takes alot of skill and planning and I think if you can "trick" idiots out of thir bank using thier lack of understanding game mechanics then you are entitled to a chunk of thier bank.

No one is entitled to another person's hard work, if it's obtained without the consent of the "giver"
Luring gives no consent.
Scamming gives no consent.
Recovering gives no consent.
Hacking gives no consent.

 

[x339]

No support, people shouldn't be dumb enough to fall for luring and if they are its their own fault.

Its like if i go up to someone and say "my favorite color is blue, give me 100m" and they give me 100m, the person giving the 100m is the one at fault for making a stupid descision, i shouldnt be punished because someone was an idiot and decided to give me 100m.

 

[KerokeroCola]

I've always been less-than-proud that we endorse luring here. But, like scottayy said, luring isn't even against the rules in Runescape. While it is a deplorable act, it is not against the rules. That is why we have permitted it thus far, and that is why I doubt the policy will be changed.

 

[Baller85]

The wilderness is a part of the game. If a player is willing to go into the wilderness .. knowing that it's dangerous and they can lose whatever is in their inventory.. it's their fault. It's not like scamming where you simply trick someone into giving you their stuff. A player is willingly going into a dangerous place and they are well aware of the risks involved.

 

[ChristmasCracker]

Its like if i go up to someone and say "my favorite color is blue, give me 100m" and they give me 100m, the person giving the 100m is the one at fault for making a stupid descision, i shouldnt be punished because someone was an idiot and decided to give me 100m.

You asked for the 100m, so they know they are giving the 100mil.
That statement makes no sense to this.

 

[ChristmasCracker]

The wilderness is a part of the game. If a player is willing to go into the wilderness .. knowing that it's dangerous and they can lose whatever is in their inventory.. it's their fault. It's not like scamming where you simply trick someone into giving you their stuff. A player is willingly going into a dangerous place and they are well aware of the risks involved.

The thing is, they are not willingly going in the wild with their big cash piles.
You trick them into entering the wild (Them not knowing it's the wild)
You trick them into entering it(unknown it's the wild)

 

[SuF]

account recovering is not cheating, its cracking, which is a type of hack. If an account is recovered then sold on here which is then recovered by the original owner, thats a scam, I could never accept that.

I mean like level 3 accounts just for the name. People used to do that all the time and no one cared. Oh, and technically its not scamming if you are not trading with the person, just stealing. Technically... Technically...

 

[Wolfdog]

This is a grey area... On one hand I agree with you, but this a huge part of RS gameplay, something I definitely think we should be allowed to discuss.

Im going to have to disagree with this one. It's the same as any other RS related trick. What the difference between this and glitching/scamming/using any scheme to gain an advantage over a player.

Thanks