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Currently, DNT is given to anyone who asked and I really don't like this,

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  • There just getting a free pass back into the community with no force of repayment
  • it makes DNT's like me who have repaid or are attempting to repay their debts looks like jokes.
Currently, I don't like this system of handing out dnt's like there candy to any scum such as myself who asked for it, so what do I suggest to make someone eligible for dnt to change the system
  • A user has attempted or has fully repaid their debts.
  • The person is currently under investigation for a scam report.
These are the only 2 reason I see why a person should be given a dnt and I feel all other reason should be forgotten and there dnt's removed.

Just in case my example aren't clear here some example of people who would pass and fail with the system I wanted to be implemented

Me : I would pass because I paid my debts
@I Bleed Duke Blue : would pass because he attempting to pay his debts
@Karl : banned because he is not attempting.


Dnt is meant to be the first step into rejoining the community and the first step should be to pay debts.
 
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Current DNT is given to anyone who asked and I really don't like this,

Reasons
  • There just getting a free pass back into the community with no force of repayment
  • it makes DNT's like me who have repaid or are attempting to repay their debts looks like jokes.
Currently, I don't like this system of handing out dnt's like there candy to any scum such as myself who asked for it, so what do I suggest to make someone eligible for dnt to change the system
  • A user has attempted or has fully repaid their debts.
  • The person is currently under investigation for a scam report.
These are the only 2 reason I see why a person should be given a dnt and I feel all other reason should be forgotten and there dnt's removed.

Just in case my example aren't clear here some example of people who would pass and fail with the system I wanted to be implemented

Me : I would pass because I paid my debts
@I Bleed Duke Blue : would pass because he attempting to pay his debts
@Karl : banned because he is not attempting.


Dnt is meant to be the first step into rejoining the community and the first step should be to pay debts.

Support, I think DNT should be more actively trying to pay back their debts. Like give an ultimatum, for example: you got 1 month from the DNT to take real steps in paying back your victims. The "real steps" are to be defined.
 
Support this partially, I think there should be a distinction between people who have scammed and have no intention of paying back and people who are genuinely trying to repay debts or have already repaid.
 
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Support, I've been saying this for a long time. This, along with the fact DNT users can trade perfectly fine until someone wants to complain are both a mess.
 
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Support this partially, I think there should be a distinction between people who have scammed and have no intention of paying back and people who are genuinely trying to repay debts or have already repaid.
I think that distinction is those who still have their DNT and those who wouldn't. I support this idea. If you're going to create a punitive rank, then there should be steps and an ultimatum to getting out of it.
 
I think that distinction is those who still have their DNT and those who wouldn't. I support this idea. If you're going to create a punitive rank, then there should be steps and an ultimatum to getting out of it.

Well, some people pay back debts, or at least try, but still have to go through the pardon system to get DNT removed.
 
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Well, some people pay back debts, or at least try, but still have to go through the pardon system to get DNT removed.
I imagine that depends on how severe their individual case is then.
 
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Shouldn't this be common sense? Like why would you even want an user in the community that only causes harm and doesn't even try to better himself anyway
 
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I'd support if you had to payback with interest to get rid of DNT.

People pay an opportunity cost when they've been scammed, not only of the money, but of whatever they were going to do with it in the first place.
 
Who can argue with that? What are some of the less severe reasons people are getting the DNT rank?
 
I support fully. I feel like people shouldn't just be handed DNTs because if they arnt trying to right their wrongs they shouldn't be welcomed back into this community
 
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No support sites super dead don't need more people taken out of the community. Karl had promised to pay back his debts and I believe him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Wtf is the point of DNT anyway? Why is it even a thing, I don't understand lol, why are these people even allowed back into the sythe community if they haven't repaid what they owe. (im aware that not everyone with a DNT is in debt, I am talking about the ones who ARE in debt).
 
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Sorry going to disagree, we give out DNTs so people can come back into the community and see what they're missing out on.

The don't get their ranks, signatures, UT, PMs, nothing.
I don't think you understand how easy it is for people to ban evade. People just need to reset their router, change their skype/discord, and done.
At least if they have DNT we know where they are and we can keep an eye on them.

DNT is also used for the RaS section when we don't want to ban someone but keep them from trading.
 
I would Vouch for this. Why have lingerers that do nothing in the community other than harm it. It's nice to see that this dude is repaying his debts and trying to get his status removed. That to me makes sense.
 
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I don't think anyone is against DNT being used instead of temporary bans in RaS, but i fail to see how DNT has any impact on ban evaders.

If someone wants to get into the market again to make money asap, why would you get a DNT and sit around for 6 months?
 
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I don't think you understand how easy it is for people to ban evade. People just need to reset their router, change their skype/discord, and done.

They can still ban evade while actively participating in the community under their DNT. You are not watching over the person, you are watching their original banned account post shit memes to clutter up the forum. It is very easy to ban evade while staying active on their original account by enabling and disabling a VPN or setting up proxies. Certain private networks provide the ability to pretend you are at a real location to avoid proxy detection.
 
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I'm going to offer my support as well, there are other ways of bringing people into the community then letting back scammers/or people who have done something wrong because that's more than just scamming. Without having any attempt to pay back what they owe.
 
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