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I don't really beleive that there is necessarily in between, but there are definite variations on the idea of God's existence. All of the branches of possibly Christianity, would be a good example.
Can there be an in-between?
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No, i do not beleive there could/is an in between. I've never beleived in it at all, it isn't rational. Imagine this, somthing coming out of nothing, called god. Then he creates all life in the universe. I simply do not believe in that rubbish.
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God was beginning of everything its hard for a human mind to comprehend, but he made him self. Kinda of a who came first chicken or the egg or deal. There is no proof of it happening, but can't you see it right in front of you?
Honestly, many people that do believe god, under the age of 21, do and do not believe in god. Its a self arguement if hes real or not.
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Wrong. Does believing in God entail an inability to make a conscious effort to go to hell? We still have a choice.
From nothingness can come only nothingness.
Then how did the first matter ever come into existence. To say that, you'd have to say it was just always there, and that contradicts of it being illogical of something to have always existed, timeless. But wait, science doesn't know, yet they can clearly, 100% say, it's impossible for a supreme being like God to exist.
Either way, I'm getting off topic, this isn't a matter of whether God exists or not, rather if one can believe, yet not believe at the same time.
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Science doesn't clearly, 100% state anything. To be scientific, a theory must have a way to be falsified. Having that property doesn't make it 100%.
Let's call it 99.0+.999...%
If you say something can't come out of nothing, then where did God come from, if He is something? If you say he has always existed, then it is not accepted that something can't come from nothing. And you don't need God.
Something cannot have always existed, timeless? I wonder how God exists then...?
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I think this depends from religion to religion, and I think the closest answer to your question is agnosticism. It may also depend on your society and where your living. For example if you live in Saudi-Arabia you would have different thought's of God or Allah or how you want to call him then when you live in the West.
I disagree with Dorito, but how can you experience something timeless. If you've never been in that state of mind?
I disagree with Dorito, but how can you experience something timeless. If you've never been in that state of mind?
If I've been in a state of mind where something is timeless, then I've been in just that - a state of mind. It's only brain synapses firing, and chemicals interacting, after all.
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You do make a rational point, shredderbeam. But all things that happen anywhere have a reason. Nothing happens for no reason. But why, man cannot seem to comprehend. It is a state of mind, but it doesnt have to make sense to our brains. There may be chemicals in there, but that isnt the only thing that could be happening. See my point?
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Things can happen for no reason.
Spontaneity is essential to existence. Unless it's combustion. That would be bad.
Spontaneity is essential to existence. Unless it's combustion. That would be bad.
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Yeah, not everything happens for a reason.
Sometimes, there are no reasons.
The most common example could be the question 'The meaning of life' which implies that there must be a 'meaning'. IMHO that's why people can never find the purpose of human existence, because they are assuming that there is one.
There doesn't have to be a reason for everything. If there was, then there would have to be a reason for the reason, which would continue in a spiral.
I don't mean to say that there isn't a cause for everything that happens... what I'm really trying to say is that it would be more appropriate if people were asking 'How?' rather than 'Why?'
I don't believe I explained my point truly thoroughly, but nevertheless, I'm going to stop going on about that and talk on-topic.
I think there can be an in-between.
My definition of 'God' is simply a label for some form of higher being that may display some sort of Omnipotence, Omniscience and in general is likely to act as a guardian, parent or teacher to mankind, possibly with some sort of infinite life span (immortality) and/or invulnerability.
So, keeping in mind that this is just what I personally believe a/the 'God' is defined as, there is no reason to believe that this 'God' could not have once existed but has now abandoned humanity or deceased.
If God exists at this time, then it might be impossible to observe his/her existence and/or actions.
I see no reason why, using my personal definition of 'God', there could not be multiple ways to percieve his/her existence.
Just some examples -
1/ God used to exist but died some time ago.
2/ God existed for the moment of the big bang but deceased immediately/was the big bang.
3/ God killed him/herself and that caused the big bang.
4/ God is just an inner force, but displayed externally in any way apart from people's actions. (Ie. People are their own 'God')
5/ God created humanity and then left to create other species across the universe.
6/ God is not any of the Gods that are portrayed in common religion and doesn't manage judgement and morality - is simply there as creator/observer/carer but can't physically influence things.
As you should be able to see, there is scope for plenty of possibilities that are 'in-between'.
Another thing I've noticed is that when proving that God does or doesn't exist, or using his/her existence (or lack of) to prove a point, people always turn to the Christian God. Please, think of other faiths and take their views into account.
Although, all of this means nothing to me, as I am an atheist.
But that is the nature of these arguments... they can be very complex and intricate, but, particularly with philosophical debates, they often have no practical impact or influence on our lives.
Sometimes, there are no reasons.
The most common example could be the question 'The meaning of life' which implies that there must be a 'meaning'. IMHO that's why people can never find the purpose of human existence, because they are assuming that there is one.
There doesn't have to be a reason for everything. If there was, then there would have to be a reason for the reason, which would continue in a spiral.
I don't mean to say that there isn't a cause for everything that happens... what I'm really trying to say is that it would be more appropriate if people were asking 'How?' rather than 'Why?'
I don't believe I explained my point truly thoroughly, but nevertheless, I'm going to stop going on about that and talk on-topic.
I think there can be an in-between.
My definition of 'God' is simply a label for some form of higher being that may display some sort of Omnipotence, Omniscience and in general is likely to act as a guardian, parent or teacher to mankind, possibly with some sort of infinite life span (immortality) and/or invulnerability.
So, keeping in mind that this is just what I personally believe a/the 'God' is defined as, there is no reason to believe that this 'God' could not have once existed but has now abandoned humanity or deceased.
If God exists at this time, then it might be impossible to observe his/her existence and/or actions.
I see no reason why, using my personal definition of 'God', there could not be multiple ways to percieve his/her existence.
Just some examples -
1/ God used to exist but died some time ago.
2/ God existed for the moment of the big bang but deceased immediately/was the big bang.
3/ God killed him/herself and that caused the big bang.
4/ God is just an inner force, but displayed externally in any way apart from people's actions. (Ie. People are their own 'God')
5/ God created humanity and then left to create other species across the universe.
6/ God is not any of the Gods that are portrayed in common religion and doesn't manage judgement and morality - is simply there as creator/observer/carer but can't physically influence things.
As you should be able to see, there is scope for plenty of possibilities that are 'in-between'.
Another thing I've noticed is that when proving that God does or doesn't exist, or using his/her existence (or lack of) to prove a point, people always turn to the Christian God. Please, think of other faiths and take their views into account.
Although, all of this means nothing to me, as I am an atheist.
But that is the nature of these arguments... they can be very complex and intricate, but, particularly with philosophical debates, they often have no practical impact or influence on our lives.
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I suppose folks could believe that God is now "Dead" or has "Moved on", or that he doesn't have any involvement with what happens on Earth (He's around, but big bang created everything), but then they're still believing in God existing, just in different capacities. I'm not sure how something could half exist...
Of course it's possible, people around the world believes in all kinds of crazy stuff, so this wouldn't be so extreme compared to many other beliefs.
This could even be the case with the Christian god, I'll use that example since this has turned into an argument about this particular god.
When was the last time the Christian god showed himself to humans? In ancient days, there was the flood, the exodus and Jesus, to mention a few. Isn't it possible then that the Christian god stopped existing or acting as a god since he hasn't been heard from since?
This could even be the case with the Christian god, I'll use that example since this has turned into an argument about this particular god.
When was the last time the Christian god showed himself to humans? In ancient days, there was the flood, the exodus and Jesus, to mention a few. Isn't it possible then that the Christian god stopped existing or acting as a god since he hasn't been heard from since?
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WRONG. Ever read the bible? Or perhaps the Ancient Hebrew bible for the matter? Y'a know the Ancient Sea Scrolls?
God said "In the beginning there was wisdom. God came from Wisdom"
From nothingness can come only nothingness.
WRONG. Ever read the bible? Or perhaps the Ancient Hebrew bible for the matter? Y'a know the Ancient Sea Scrolls?
God said "In the beginning there was wisdom. God came from Wisdom"
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Nope. I'm going to prove him wrong with facts!
That's why I've been created!
That's why I've been created!
Facts?
Have you ever played the telephone game?
One person makes up a phrase and whispers it to the next guy. The next guy whispers it to the other and so on. At the end of the line you'll have a totally different phrase.
The bible wasn't just poofed and made. The bible consists of all different authors.
Mathew, mark, Luke, John, exodus, Leviticus, numbers, Deuteronomy's etc. . . .
Each one has a different perspective.
And its not like they all had first hand knowledge of the event they wrote about. They were told about these events and wrote about them in their own interpretations of the stories being told.
That right there is one HUGE Telephone game.
The facts you speak of are warped truth's. . .extremely warped truths.
When I say truths I mean hypothetically. I feel that they are just a compilation of stories.
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