Atheists - I ask you...

[malakadang]

I've been studying philosophy pretty hard here recently and I have come to the conclusion that some times there doesn't need to be direct empirical evidence for things. Religious people have faith, and that helps them. Non-theists have reason, and that helps them. There shouldn't be a distinction made between the two, because in the end we are all people.

It is kind of like political distinction. People think of politics as a line and you land left or right of moderate, but it is a circle. At some point you become so far left you share a lot of politics with extreme right and vice versa. Some people hate theism so much that they become just as pig headed as theists. Theists hate 'Godless Heathens' so much that they become just as ignorant as those who hate religion. Either way you're exuding ignorance because you are too stubborn to connect with someone on a human level.

tl;dr: Live and let live.

I think that depends on the epistemological method you employ (slight tautology).

There's a simple question to be asked: How do you gain knowledge?

To generalize, atheists gain knowledge by reason and evidence.
Theists gain knowledge by reason, evidence and faith.

However, the problem is that theists prioritize faith over both evidence and reason. It's true, you don't need empirical evidence or reason to believe in something, but I daresay, you need them both to gain knowledge. Whether God exists is knowledge to be obtained, and employing faith as ones epistemology is where most people have problems. If people simply said 'I don't know, it makes me happy', then I don't think there would be much problem at all.

 

[Annex]

Being an atheist to me means that I don't accept anything to do with a creator that requires faith. If a religion came along that could repeatedly demonstrate their ability to tangibly prove that their god exists beyond doubt then I could accept that.

Like others have noted I don't believe in a God because there is no evidence that supports one existing, and the universe could logically exist without one given what has been proven and exists in well supported theories.

I've been studying philosophy pretty hard here recently and I have come to the conclusion that some times there doesn't need to be direct empirical evidence for things. Religious people have faith, and that helps them. Non-theists have reason, and that helps them. There shouldn't be a distinction made between the two, because in the end we are all people.

It is kind of like political distinction. People think of politics as a line and you land left or right of moderate, but it is a circle. At some point you become so far left you share a lot of politics with extreme right and vice versa. Some people hate theism so much that they become just as pig headed as theists. Theists hate 'Godless Heathens' so much that they become just as ignorant as those who hate religion. Either way you're exuding ignorance because you are too stubborn to connect with someone on a human level.

tl;dr: Live and let live.

The problem is that as an atheist in order for "knowledge" to be gained it has to be proven in a repeatable manor for it to be factual. Theists often can gain knowledge based on single experiences where there is no other collaborating evidence.

Further more calling atheists ignorant is highly comical because hating religion is nothing to do with hating the indoctrinated believers, its hating the organization and its abuses of humanity from which nearly all religions have a gigantic messy history starting back to their inception. Its also comical because atheists don't shove non-believing upon believers, but it is extremely commonplace for the indoctrinated to spam their beliefs in an annoying harassing manor ESPECIALLY to those whose minds are still malleable (children) and force them down a path that, should they actually have learned more about they world, that they may not have chosen to take.

Live and let live is a poor methodology to live by. Indoctrination is extremely difficult to break free of as often most of your associates will shun you for leaving them. And altering the minds of children in a manor such as they do with their beliefs is sickening.

 

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I think this quote sums it up:

"Religion is mind control. Atheism is a non-prophet organization."

 

[Kiln]

I don't even call myself an atheist. I just think it's silly to believe in something that was fabricated to explain the unexplained.

Do you really believe that there's an individual that's able to answer the prayers of millions of people?

Why does god allow thousands of people to die each day. Why are people starving in Africa? It's not because they're poor, no it's because they've sinned. Right?

Also, if there is a god, is he the god of the universe? The universe is infinite, meaning that there are infinite amounts of life forms. What if they believe in a different god. Is your god the real one? They could believe that a piece of cheese is their god. Are they wrong for their beliefs?

Religion is ignorance.

 

[Call Me Mudd]

I'm not an atheist. I'm also not a theist. But I do like to challenge people to prove their own stupidity.

To put it simply I do believe that someone or something created all that is in existence. That something could be the big bang or someone could be ''God'' but guess what not a single soul on earth will ever know.

When I go to the skatepark and try to land a trick that I have been working on for 3 weeks and I finally land it it's because I work hard. I've seen other kids ''Pray to God'' that they land this backflip and then they land it. God didn't make you land that backflip , working hard , practicing, and pushing yourself to the limit did. If ANY credit is due anywhere The Foampit receives it all not ''God''

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ts called adaption, not evolution, and the post about starving kids in africa..its not gods job to allow these...HUMAN make the descisions on earth..you will soon find out what i mean.. think about it. God didnt intend for us to worship him like fanatics... its doing whats right, he gave us life, its our job to make sense of it and solve our own problems...God lets people die to show you that he doesent interfer in human relations.. wtf just think about it. etizolam post sorry

ts called adaption, not evolution, and the post about starving kids in africa..its not gods job to allow these...HUMAN make the descisions on earth..you will soon find out what i mean.. think about it. God didnt intend for us to worship him like fanatics... its doing whats right, he gave us life, its our job to make sense of it and solve our own problems...God lets people die to show you that he doesent interfer in human relations.. wtf just think about it. etizolam post sorry

 

[Tyro]

Not wanting to take over VenomXI's thread I've created an new, but similar thread with a couple of questions of my own for Atheists.

As a Christian I've always wondered;

What does being an Atheist mean to you? (What your definition of an Atheist)

"God" has been conflated into meaninglessness, so "atheism" is no longer a useful term.

Why do you chose to be Atheist? As in, why don't you believe in a higher being? (aka 'God' or Gods).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance