Racism

[Faskist]

Define racism.

Distinguishing between races? Yes, that's good. It's hard to describe someone without at least mentioning their race.


Acknowledging that different races have different cultures? Yes, that's good. I'll be damned if mindless drum banging in the jungle is "culture", but the white Renaissance wasn't.

Acknowledging that different races are naturally different, physically and mentally? Yes, that's good. Pussyfooting around race as if it were just skin-colour is ridiculous. Although, conversely, I'm not going to come right out and say "Black people are 30% faster and 20% less intelligent than white people". It's not true. Not just because we don't have the research yet to quantify racial differences (Mainly due to accusations of racism), but because humans are so individual that you couldn't quantify a whole race's aptitudes. This isn't saying that every single child under the Sun has the exact same chances of being highly intelligent, etc. An Asian child will outperform a white child more often than not -- but will, more often than not, be less physically imposing. You can't quantify this.

Saying "Damn, I hate dem niggurs they took mah job". No, that's not good.
Your boss is to blame, not the Indians/Mexicans who took your job. Your government is to blame, too, for not believing in Mercantilism.

Saying "God, those Nazis were horrible -- that must mean everyone who can say 'black' without apologising murders Jews!!". No, that's terrible. That's so ignorant it hurts. Jesus, God, Allah, kill these damn people now. How about you take a look at what you're doing, you're expressing a prejudice against racists. Isn't that just what you hate them doing?

Saying "Black people can't do well without my help". No, that's not good either. Affirmative action, reverse-racism, it's all the same. It's racism. Racism against everyone but the minority it's helping at the time. Which is just what the Klan, the Nazis, etc. did.

 

[Krypton6]

and freedom of speech is great in america. you can say and think whatever you want, as long is it dont cause any panic or hurt anyones career. My point of racism is when it goes to far, like when people started lynchings against black's in the early 1900's. thats when it goes to far.

Off topic but does freedom of speech include the right to say that you suport 'terrorists, though claiming that you do not fight but only speak.

 

[bennytheberry]

my views are that ppl are wrong when they say black and whites are the same (not meening skin color) blacks could not go into space for a while for some reason, dont know why, and it is wrong in some ways and not in otther ways, and it is bad for mexicans to come over here because it is ILLEGAL(other then if they get a greencard or somethin)

 

[TJ]

Off topic but does freedom of speech include the right to say that you suport 'terrorists, though claiming that you do not fight but only speak.

that causes panic tho..saying that you support terrorist can cause panic to the lifes of the regular life of the people around them.

my views are that ppl are wrong when they say black and whites are the same (not meening skin color) blacks could not go into space for a while for some reason, dont know why, and it is wrong in some ways and not in otther ways, and it is bad for mexicans to come over here because it is ILLEGAL(other then if they get a greencard or somethin)

Ok i agreed with the whole post until the whole illegal immigration. My thing behind it is, they are trying to escape poverty, cruddy living conditions and other things. THEY ARE TRYING TO SAVE THERE FAMILY AND THERE OWN LIVES. i think that if i lived in a county where the daily life is cruddy then i would do everything i could to get to a better country, that has freedom, good paying jobs and everything needed to live. wouldnt you if you had a family?

i live in germny and i hope you remeber germanies history!
I become so angry when i read this shit of these racists!!!!!!!!e.g.speljohan
who do you think you are?

and are you asking me, "who do you think you are?"? if you are then i have a simple response...I AM YOU ..
but anyways back to my real reason,

what do you mean?

if you mean that i did not mention germany as being a big racist "community" or something during WWII then sorry, but i am posting about things that are happening in the country i live in... if i posted about every country that had racism then i would have to post about every country...

so...yeah..

 

[jebckr]

Hmm, I just came from a thread in general discussion on the subject.

Racism isn't about hating. It's about defining people as a race. I'm pretty sure most people do this, and i'm one of them.

My thoughts exactly. When you start defining races one seems to stick out. Care to guess? Yes, blacks. I'll use the same point that I used earlier. The average IQ of white americans is between 103 and 105, other races (excluding black americans edit: and mexicans) range from 100 to the high of 113. The 113 being Jewish Americans. Then you come to black americans with there average IQ of 85. Note that "special" is 85 and below. Then you look at races outside of america and find similar IQs ranging about the same as those of america's non-black citizens. Now look at Africa and find the average IQ there is 70. A score of 70 is usually considered MR.

"I concluded that the average IQ of blacks in sub-Saharan Africa is approximately 70. It has long been known that the average IQ of blacks in the United States is approximately 85. The explanation for the higher IQ of American blacks is that they have about 25 per cent of Caucasian genes and a better environment." --Richard Lynn

That made me laugh. Also, here's a sight that I got some of those stats from http://www.vdare.us/misc/051207_rushton_fallacy.htm

 

Just because it's covered in freedom of speech doesn't make it right. People are entitled to their own opinions, but that doesn't make them morally right. Say, for example, if someone believes that brutally murdering and mutilating people is right, and preaches this, but does not commit any crimes. They are legally covered under freedom of speech, however they are not morally and ethically right to preach such things.

The fact that one person can rally a group of people so easily into racial violence makes a cold hard point: Multiculturalism only works with compatible race-religion groups.

From the libertarian perspective the only aggressors in the above stated scenario are the rioters themselves. Each and every person is blessed with freewill. Thus making the decision to aggress against another is their own choice, for which they are solely responsible.

Looking at the bigger picture; We should not be attempting to suppress freedom of speech because 'this might happen' but rather asking why it CAN happen in the first place? Racial tensions would have to be running high already, almost to the point of spontaneous violence, for one person to be able to incite such a riot.

If race is truly a social construct then why do these racial tensions still exist after 50 years of antiracism/multiculturalism propaganda? Why do the Mexican gangs still fight the black gangs in what they themselves call a race war? Why are American prisons internally divided by race?

Race is a real construct and 'racism' is simply one manifestation of the racial tensions that exist between some groups. To silence freedom of speech in order to force two incompatible groups to live together harmoniously is a fallacy. Either they integrate peacefully or they do not.

 

[TJ]

good to see everyones opinion and how they are backing it up

 

[speljohan]

i live in germny and i hope you remeber germanies history!
I become so angry when i read this shit of these racists!!!!!!!!e.g.speljohan
who do you think you are?

I am me. No more, no less. You should ask yourself who YOU are. It's a fact almost everyone is racist in today's society. Racism isn't negative, it's like defining birds. Some are black, some are white.

 

[Gerardcon]

Yet, it also disgusts me when I see lower-class people, spending their energy working from paycheck to paycheck. I want to shake them, and say, "Educate yourself! Get off your lazy ass, and accomplish something!"

Well when they are working from paycheck to paycheck it's hard to find the money and the time to advance their education.

And I used to think racism wasn't a big deal until I moved out of my old neighborhood into a much more affluent one. I got written up on the job for verbal harassment regarding the company's racial discrimination policy. All I did was on thanksgiving my company was handing away turkey and this black kid said, "I don't like turkey" and I said, "look there's chicken over there." Then the chef throws a raw chicken at him and everyone starts cracking up. The thing that really got me mad was this guy always listened to Lil Wayne and was always saying "I ain't no snitch bro". Throwing a rock through at his car helped cool me down though.

It seems like the less minorities are there the bigger the deal it is. When you would think the more minorities there are, the more you'd have to watch your mouth.

And I'm glad the owner of this site is a bigot more or less.

 

[stevenadrien2]

Hmm, I just came from a thread in general discussion on the subject.



My thoughts exactly. When you start defining races one seems to stick out. Care to guess? Yes, blacks. I'll use the same point that I used earlier. The average IQ of white americans is between 103 and 105, other races (excluding black americans edit: and mexicans) range from 100 to the high of 113. The 113 being Jewish Americans. Then you come to black americans with there average IQ of 85. Note that "special" is 85 and below. Then you look at races outside of america and find similar IQs ranging about the same as those of america's non-black citizens. Now look at Africa and find the average IQ there is 70. A score of 70 is usually considered MR.

"I concluded that the average IQ of blacks in sub-Saharan Africa is approximately 70. It has long been known that the average IQ of blacks in the United States is approximately 85. The explanation for the higher IQ of American blacks is that they have about 25 per cent of Caucasian genes and a better environment." --Richard Lynn

That made me laugh. Also, here's a sight that I got some of those stats from http://www.vdare.us/misc/051207_rushton_fallacy.htm

So your saying that because i come from Africa, and I'm black, i have an IQ of 85? That is the biggest piece of shit i've ever heard. The reason why IQs are soo low is just because we don't get the same opportunity.

The irony is when i came to the US, i was 2 grades ahead of everyone with the same age of me...

If no one around you do not know how to read and are in an environment where it simply doesn't benefit them, but have other skills that help them survive, then I don't see why IQ should really matter.

 

[jebckr]

So your saying that because i come from Africa, and I'm black, i have an IQ of 85? That is the biggest piece of shit i've ever heard. The reason why IQs are soo low is just because we don't get the same opportunity.

The irony is when i came to the US, i was 2 grades ahead of everyone with the same age of me...

If no one around you do not know how to read and are in an environment where it simply doesn't benefit them, but have other skills that help them survive, then I don't see why IQ should really matter.

Are you honestly to stupid to understand the word "average"?

Same opportunity my ass, blacks get the same opportunity. Then they go about ruining it by driving away good teechers and funding because of...low IQs.

A vicious cyclone indeed.

 

[stevenadrien2]

Just because a lot of them have done that does not mean they are all like that..You should know not to prejudice by now dumbass...

Go to Africa, and you'll see what i mean. Until then, you can theorize and try to understand all you want but it's all going to be bs unless you've actually experienced it so try not to talk shit till then k?

 

[jebckr]

Just because a lot of them have done that does not mean they are all like that..You should know not to prejudice by now dumbass...

Go to Africa, and you'll see what i mean. Until then, you can theorize and try to understand all you want but it's all going to be bs unless you've actually experienced it so try not to talk shit till then k?

I know they are not all like that! I'm grouping people as a race based on an AVERAGE intellect. Stop trying to be so politically correct. As a race Europeans are smarter than americans, athiests are smarter than christians, whites are smarter than blacks. I'm sorry if facts offend you.

 

[Yadkef]

Racism isnt right and people shouldnt be singled out like that.
Remember this is my viewpoint and don't take this very serious its my opinion.
Freedom of speech is another great thing tbh.

 

[arsenal_osborne]

Ok, hope no one's offened what im about to say... but this is what pisses me off very bad in england about the racism laws.

Loads of pakistani's in england. they have more rights then what we do because of all the bullshit about thier religion and shit that offends them, if a pakistani calls a white person anything rasist about being white.. nothing will be done againts them... but if i turned around and said you fucking paki all that shit id get arrested. its like if a white person calls a black man a nigger they get done? but if a black man calls a black man a nigger they dont? understand my frustration here? anyone agree with me if you live in the uk youll probably understand what im saying.

 

[arsenal_osborne]

Define racism.


Acknowledging that different races have different cultures? Yes, that's good. I'll be damned if mindless drum banging in the jungle is "culture", but the white
Saying "Damn, I hate dem niggurs they took mah job". No, that's not good.
Your boss is to blame, not the Indians/Mexicans who took your job. Your government is to blame, too, for not believing in Mercantilism.

No.. the only reason they get the job is because theyre so cheap labour... the other people in the country wont work for shit money the other blacks,polish,czech's come in the country and work for like half of the normal salary and send all of the money they earn back to thier own countrys and fuck off after a few years when theyve got enough money from our country...

 

[TJ]

wow..

never knew someone would bump this thread..

lol

and the only reason we are sending jobs over seas, is because of cheap labor yes. and there is nothing wrong with sending money from one country to another, that is what american tourist do all the time, bring U.S. money to foreign countries.

 

[jebckr]

Racism isnt right and people shouldnt be singled out like that.

Racism isn't singling out one person...

It's generalizing a RACE with one general idea. In my case I generalize a race on their average intellect.

Ok, hope no one's offened what im about to say... but this is what pisses me off very bad in england about the racism laws.

Loads of pakistani's in england. they have more rights then what we do because of all the bullshit about thier religion and shit that offends them, if a pakistani calls a white person anything rasist about being white.. nothing will be done againts them... but if i turned around and said you fucking paki all that shit id get arrested. its like if a white person calls a black man a nigger they get done? but if a black man calls a black man a nigger they dont? understand my frustration here? anyone agree with me if you live in the uk youll probably understand what im saying.

I can relate. I won't go into detail, but politics get way to involved and way to politically correct. Welfare and whatnot is a joke, we've got higher class whites paying for the lowerclass blacks... (PLEASE don't be stupid and say "I'm a rich black guy" or "I'm a poor white person") once again stats and averages apply there.

wow..

never knew someone would bump this thread..

I couldn't let a thread like this go, this subject is my forte.

 

[patience]

Racism, hmmm.

I am not Racist, I more or less hate ignorance, and in my research, and study

I have come to reolize that 67% of black people are ignorant, arrogant, and rude.
(Studies referring to 5 random survays to random black people at work and school, 67/100 was the median of the surveys.)

So there for I am not racist. But I will not go "Let's hang this hear nigger up

cause his skin!"

I will engage in conversation with ANY race that I can understand, And after

a few moments of chit-chat I can decide whether or not they are ignorant.

 

[jebckr]

Racism, hmmm.

I am not Racist, I more or less hate ignorance, and in my research, and study

I have come to reolize that 67% of black people are ignorant, arrogant, and rude.
(Studies referring to 5 random survays to random black people at work and school, 67/100 was the median of the surveys.)

So there for I am not racist. But I will not go "Let's hang this hear nigger up

cause his skin!"

I will engage in conversation with ANY race that I can understand, And after

a few moments of chit-chat I can decide whether or not they are ignorant.

Agree 100%