9/11: Planned by the Gov't? Serious posts only.

[chadlime]

So I watched a documentary call Loose Change I think it was. And I have to say, it really seems like it was a government set up. I also watched that Conspiracy Theory Jesse Ventura thing. There was this woman who was really close to the so called "Plane" that hit the Pentagon. She was recovering from the hospital when there was a person from the military show up and tell her that it was a plane and not to speak of it again.

I also find it kind of interesting that somehow WTC Building 7 experienced 105ft of free-fall and it wasnt even hit. There was an African American person who had an interview afterwards and explained to the news that he felt bombs go off a few stories under him. Then he somehow died?

I will see if I can find the video of all of the people who mysteriously died after having interviews with the press and not going with what the government said.

What do you guys think?

 

[Tckr]

Loose Change is a propaganda film.

People just think of crazy ideas to get some press.

 

[ytrewq]

They say statistics never lie, but statisticians always do.

Facts never lie, but "research" often does.

Especially when you selectively present information, and ignore all to the contrary.

 

[chadlime]

You guys dont find it at all weird that there was VIDEO PROOF of explosions 7-10 stories below the dropping of the towers and they found proof of controlled explosive material?

 

[Kodak]

Meh, it could be that it happened or it might not. At the end of the day, I wonder if it would even change things. We live in a world where there is endless propaganda trying to get us to do things, from US Army commercials to subliminal messaging on McDonalds. At the end of the day, if the government truly was behind this - its no different, except they were the ones directly pulling the trigger as opposed to indirectly.

 

[Jerritaliani]

Meh, it could be that it happened or it might not. At the end of the day, I wonder if it would even change things. We live in a world where there is endless propaganda trying to get us to do things, from US Army commercials to subliminal messaging on McDonalds. At the end of the day, if the government truly was behind this - its no different, except they were the ones directly pulling the trigger as opposed to indirectly.

100% Agree

 

[chadlime]

Its just that there is a point when some things maybe happen and we tie things together to make it seem as a conspiracy but after all of the videos I see and all of the recurring things, I cant help but to wonder.

 

[Reboman]

WWI: Sinking of the Lusitania
WWI: Pearl Harbor
Vietnam: Gulf of Tonkin incident
Iraq War: 9/11

All false flag events to get us involved in a war.

 

[Mantitz]

Jet Fuel- Maximum burning temperature, 980°C

Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C.

Definitely bombs planted but the question is by who, remember they are terrorist

 

[Rsaccounttrader]

No, I doubt think it was planned by the government. Too many people would have had to be involved. Too much money would be able to be traced. Someone would talk or find out the truth.

 

[T V]

I also find it kind of interesting that somehow WTC Building 7 experienced 105ft of free-fall and it wasnt even hit. There was an African American person who had an interview afterwards and explained to the news that he felt bombs go off a few stories under him. Then he somehow died?

Building 7 was not only hit by falling debris, but there was a fire inside the building caused by a power generator. The fire weakened the building's foundation and the tons of falling debris delivered the final blow. I can't remember exactly what caused the generator to exploded, but give me a few minutes and I'll look it up in the book.

You guys dont find it at all weird that there was VIDEO PROOF of explosions 7-10 stories below the dropping of the towers and they found proof of controlled explosive material?

Videos can be easily edited. Also, there has never been any proof of explosive material found anywhere. What you are confusing for 'explosions' is in fact something called 'pancaking'. Because the twin towers were built in layers, when the building came down, each story that feel down on top of another, caused an emition of smoke and debris. I'm not sure I'm exactly explaining it correctly, but you should look it up.

They say statistics never lie, but statisticians always do.

Facts never lie, but "research" often does.

Especially when you selectively present information, and ignore all to the contrary.

Exactly

Jet Fuel- Maximum burning temperature, 980°C

Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C.

Definitely bombs planted but the question is by who, remember they are terrorist

Of all the accusations, I find this one to be one of the lamest. I don't know how you can blatantly overlook the fact the steel DID NOT NEED TO MELT in order for the tower fall. It only needed to be hot enough for the steel to begin to bend, and that coupled with all the weight over it, is what brought down the towers. The fires in the towers reached maximum temperatures of something like 700 degrees F. At that temperature, steel has already been weakened to less than 50% of its original strength.


And to the OP, instead of only looking into the movies/videos that accuse this of being a conspiracy, how about you also look into the multitudes of books and videos that efficiently debunk all conspiracy theories with not just scientific evidence, interviews with people who were actually there, as well as basic common sense.
The people who make movies and videos like Common Sense, can point fingers all they want, but it should be up the public to not be stupid enough to ONLY look at the argument from one side.

 

[Zerk Perk]

i think the government is corrupt but i dont think they are that corrupt.
but it would make sense if they did it so they could declare war on the middle east and invade and take their oil

 

[Reboman]

No, I doubt think it was planned by the government. Too many people would have had to be involved. Too much money would be able to be traced. Someone would talk or find out the truth.

You ever think that those who talk are immediately silenced? I mean, the guy who supposedly killed JFK was killed the next day.

What a lot of you are experiencing is normalcy bias. Be open to the possibility that the government does do fucked up shit.

They're detaining Bradley Manning for doing his job. They got pissed at Wikileaks for distributing information.

"Truth is treason in an empire of lies."

I used to be one of those doubtera, but I dug into the rabbit hole.

Google "Operation Northwoods", it's almost the same plan as 9/11 except Cuba and Fidel are the targets.

Wake up people.

 

[Mantitz]

The steel was tested and the highest temperature measured was 250C in all but three of the WTC steel samples. Don't have so much faith in a government that is shrouded with lies

 

[Tckr]

You guys dont find it at all weird that there was VIDEO PROOF of explosions 7-10 stories below the dropping of the towers and they found proof of controlled explosive material?

People can fake anything with video editing and special effects nowadays.

 

[chadlime]

No, I doubt think it was planned by the government. Too many people would have had to be involved. Too much money would be able to be traced. Someone would talk or find out the truth.

The day before 9/11, Rumsfeld said that they lost 3 TRILLION dollars. Funny that the plane made a turn and hit directly into the computers that held all of the money information.

 

[chadlime]

Definitely bombs planted but the question is by who, remember they are terrorist

Also, soon before the 9/11 they decided to not keep bomb sniffing dogs in the building.

 

[Jimmy]

You ever think that those who talk are immediately silenced? I mean, the guy who supposedly killed JFK was killed the next day.

Yes, Oswald was killed by Jack Ruby (a Kennedy supporter who had acted in the heat of the moment). The commission assigned to investigate this incident, led by the then Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Earl Warren, did an excellent job, and came to the conclusion that both Oswald and Ruby had acted alone in their crimes. If you have any actual input into this event, please share it. It's definitely worth noting that the people promoting these ridiculous conspiracy theories are never themselves silenced, even though they presumably have all the answers and are spreading them to the public.

 

[Reboman]

Yes, Oswald was killed by Jack Ruby (a Kennedy supporter who had acted in the heat of the moment). The commission assigned to investigate this incident, led by the then Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Earl Warren, did an excellent job, and came to the conclusion that both Oswald and Ruby had acted alone in their crimes. If you have any actual input into this event, please share it. It's definitely worth noting that the people promoting these ridiculous conspiracy theories are never themselves silenced, even though they presumably have all the answers and are spreading them to the public.

Well I just have the theory that Kennedy was killed because he was the last president to oppose the Federal Reserve and he was against Operation Northwoods, thus angering the powers that be.

 

[malakadang]

I personally believe that there's something missing. The most viable option I believe would be that the US had prior knowledge of the planned attack, and rigged the building with explosives, thus gaining enough leverage to launch a public approved invasion.

I think we can all agree, both sides, that with, or without a set-up, there have been crucial bits of information omitted.