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Why is Suicide illegal?

I think it should be illegal.

There's only 2 barriers in the way;

1. People decide to kill themselves in front of people by making a show. The people watching will be scarred for life, and at this day in age will start to sue random things, such as the gun company or the building they jumped off of.

2. When people are going to kill themselves, they think, "Why not take some others with me?"
So they go on a killing spree before killing themselves.
 
★Simplicity★ said:
1. People decide to kill themselves in front of people by making a show. The people watching will be scarred for life, and at this day in age will start to sue random things, such as the gun company or the building they jumped off of.
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I'm not responsible for their state of mind. It's their problem.

★Simplicity★ said:
2. When people are going to kill themselves, they think, "Why not take some others with me?"
So they go on a killing spree before killing themselves.
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The murder is what's wrong here, not the suicide.
 
Shredderbeam said:
I'm not responsible for their state of mind. It's their problem.
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Situation: someone runs in front of you randomly and blows their head off.
You probably have your eyes open for about 30 minutes straight staring at their dead body and brains on the ground, their teeth grinded through the back of their skull. (Hot Rod, movie)

For most, that would scar the rest of their lives and they would be shooken by anybody who touched them ever again.


Shredderbeam said:
The murder is what's wrong here, not the suicide.
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Thats what I was getting at...
They still murder people.
 
★Simplicity★ said:
Situation: someone runs in front of you randomly and blows their head off.
You probably have your eyes open for about 30 minutes straight staring at their dead body and brains on the ground, their teeth grinded through the back of their skull. (Hot Rod, movie)

For most, that would scar the rest of their lives and they would be shooken by anybody who touched them ever again.
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Logical fallacy: Misleading vividness.

★Simplicity★ said:
Thats what I was getting at...
They still murder people.
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Then the murder is what is immoral - not the suicide.
 
Shredderbeam, I believe that you argue the non-aggression axiom.

"No human being has the right to initiate force against any other human being except in self defense of person and rightfully obtained property."

Does "self defense of person" not extend to the person's state of mind? Should this not take into account the effects one may have on others by committing suicide?

Do I have the right to use physical force to stop people from killing themselves, and should suicide, by extension, be illegal (given that we do not live in an anarchistic "free" society)?
 
Shredderbeam said:
Logical fallacy: Misleading vividness.



Then the murder is what is immoral - not the suicide.
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I was just going to say it comes down to morals. Morals may help prevent you from suicide from a conscious point of view. Murder is immoral regardless of "view" because it's not your human or humane right to kill someone else.

I believe nobody should kill themselves for any reason.

Under what law does it specify suicide as illegal? Nobody serious enough to kill themselves would take even a second to ponder suicide being illegal before they commit to it.

Possibly it's a reason to contain a person if their suicide attempt fails and they are able to help them turn their lives around.
 
Jansen said:
Shredderbeam, I believe that you argue the non-aggression axiom.

"No human being has the right to initiate force against any other human being except in self defense of person and rightfully obtained property."

Does "self defense of person" not extend to the person's state of mind? Should this not take into account the effects one may have on others by committing suicide?

Do I have the right to use physical force to stop people from killing themselves, and should suicide, by extension, be illegal (given that we do not live in an anarchistic "free" society)?
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http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Ethics_LifeAsMoralStandard.html

Physically acting against others is an obvious physical act. The other person cannot simply wish it away. On the other hand, speaking your mind

Inventor419 said:
Murder is immoral regardless of "view" because it's not your human or humane right to kill someone else.
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Right, you cannot kill somebody else - but why not yourself?
 
Arya said:
So, in such cases, why would you believe that suicide is ethical?
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It's just an action that the individual has a right to - it's about as ethical as picking up a rock.
 
Its Not Illegal If You Dont Get Caught And If You Do Commit Suicide Your Dead..
 
Where, in any law, does it say suicide is illegal? I'm not even saying it sarcastically. I'm honestly asking.
 
suicide is illegal?
well what are they going to do if you try to kill yourself and fail? arrest you?

talk about making someones life worse :( lol

and what happens if you kill yourself, then what?
makes no sense and i never heard it was illegal.

anyways, i've tried to kill myself before. it's not illegal.
 
ItsMissDevon said:
suicide is illegal?
well what are they going to do if you try to kill yourself and fail? arrest you?

talk about making someones life worse :( lol

and what happens if you kill yourself, then what?
makes no sense and i never heard it was illegal.

anyways, i've tried to kill myself before. it's not illegal.
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Suicide has historically been treated as a criminal matter in many parts of the world. Although a person who has successfully committed suicide might be thought to be beyond the reach of the law (since they are dead), there could still be legal consequences. The associated matters of assisting a suicide and attempting suicide are, or have been, also dealt with by the laws of some jurisdictions.

It is illegal.
 
Arya said:
Suicide has historically been treated as a criminal matter in many parts of the world. Although a person who has successfully committed suicide might be thought to be beyond the reach of the law (since they are dead), there could still be legal consequences. The associated matters of assisting a suicide and attempting suicide are, or have been, also dealt with by the laws of some jurisdictions.

It is illegal.
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What happens when there was no one involved other than the deceased? Is this where false accusations/incarceration come in?
 
Arya said:
Suicide has historically been treated as a criminal matter in many parts of the world. Although a person who has successfully committed suicide might be thought to be beyond the reach of the law (since they are dead), there could still be legal consequences. The associated matters of assisting a suicide and attempting suicide are, or have been, also dealt with by the laws of some jurisdictions.

It is illegal.
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yeah, it's illegal when someone assists you.
nobody was assisting me and i wasn't talking about when people are assisting others
 
bubbagump said:
Suicide is the state of mind of wether or not you want to take an easy route out of a small problem...it simply shouldn't be allowed...most cases the people survive. They are put away into a treatment facility for help.

But what Shredder says is true. That's why I look up to him. He is a wise guy.

Nice new avatar, btw.
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QFT

agree
 
Suicide is murder of ones self-being.

Murder being the keyword.

Murder is, well, illegal.
 
It's not illegal in the sense that if you commit it, you are arrested (LOL) but more that it is prevented by law to make sure that you don't make a bad decision.
 
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