Why I don't trust ranks or post counts

[obstinato10]

Now I have always been abit when trading through sythe and as many of you know this place is full of scammers.
I was flamed on msn not to long ago when doing a trade (IRL one) because I was not happy going first to this person even though he had a much higher post count as I did, he then went and offered getting a mod involved with the trade.
Now there is alot of things that can go wrong with a trade with real life stuff, they can just say they never got the goods etc, I have heard of OMM's saying they never got the stuff in the mail and I just dont believe because you have been given a picture and title gives you trust.

Now I do know that not all of these people im about to state were banned for scamming but the fact is they are banned..


http://sythe.org/member.php?u=76154 <- ex staff

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=76180 <- ex staff

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=196596 <- ex staff

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=76306 <- ex staff

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=42668 <- ex staff

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=173440 <- ex staff

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=129168 <- ex staff

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=40681 <- ex admin

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=65615 <- ex admin | Total Posts: 8,069

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=154178 <- Total Posts: 1,152 | 16 Mil
donator

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=69281 <- Total Posts: 1,837

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=76227 <- Total Posts: 7,194

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=56968 <- Total Posts: 1,157

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=76482 <- Total Posts: 1,652 | 1 Mil donator

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=106890 <- Total Posts: 1,693

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=108108 <- Total Posts: 1,001

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=86116 <- Total Posts: 3,440

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=52928 <- Total Posts: 1,438 | 1 Mil donator

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=86816 <- Total Posts: 3,366 | 16 Mil donator

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=43207 <- Total Posts: 1,165

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=76315 <- Total Posts: 1,562

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=65615 <- Total Posts: 8,069

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=86677 <- Total Posts: 1,210

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=78744 <- Total Posts: 1,191

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=76644 <- Total Posts: 1,314

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=191869 <- Total Posts: 2,769

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=97635 <- Total Posts: 1,978

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=86021 <- Total Posts: 1,591 | 5 Mil + donator

http://sythe.org/member.php?u=86677 <- Total Posts: 1,523



Now im sure there are alot more but I really couldnt be stuffed getting more.



now to make this thread less pointless.

Do you think that being a staff or being here for a while entitles you to respect and trust? or should you still have to learn it?

 

[blindkilla]

Oh yeah, everyone is human. Staff aren't some gods who will never scam. I learned this the lesson of not trusting rank a long time ago. The only people I trust are those I've gotten to know on a personal level.

 

[ImPrettyCool]

Trust vouches

 

[Feren Silver]

Meh. Throw that around, I can get you that many active members and under in a 10th of the time it took you to make this.

How do you learn respect? So once a person gets staff they should start going first to the leechers, I see.

 

[Tradd]

Like blindkilla said, i don't trust anyone until i know them personally.

 

[obstinato10]

Meh. Throw that around, I can get you that many active members and under in a 10th of the time it took you to make this.

How do you learn respect? So once a person gets staff they should start going first to the leechers, I see.

I think your missing the point to this..
well yes you are..
Its earn not learn, and no, I just see staff using there title to get trust.
When someone puts in there thread title [Mod] etc it draws people there and they know that, they are using it and sooner or later there will be a staff member that will want to just scam as many as possible.

I'm not saying that staff should go to leechers and try to earn there trust, im just saying that they shouldn't expect it from everyone like I see happen all the time. Most of the staff stay in there little circle of friends anyway and don't talk to others much, i'v tried PM'in some to make convo but its always failed.

plus vouches are bs.
I bet any money there are people on this website doing legit trades just to build trust with people to try to scam them.

 

[cp]

I don't believe Daily was ever admin. Global at most, afaik.

That's what happens when you blindly trust anyone. :-(

 

[deadly serious]

Hm, if you take that perspective you would never be able to trust anyone in the world, not even your own family.

 

[madmax5213]

Hm, if you take that perspective you would never be able to trust anyone in the world, not even your own family.

yeah, and you said "I just see staff using there title to get trust" in some cases but really thats furthest from the truth.

 

[obstinato10]

Administrators: Annex, Cheeter, Clashfan, Curt, Daily, Matthew, Filefragg, Finn, Jansen, Jew, MittenZ, Pen, Ryan, Sin666, Shredderbeam, SMR, Steph, Sythe, Terrankiller, Unknown, Vic

I got it all from tyro

Hm, if you take that perspective you would never be able to trust anyone in the world, not even your own family.

Umm pretty I dont trust everyone in my family because they have broken that trust... and I dont know some of them.. the ones I do trust have proven there trust to me.

Everyone I do trust have earned it.


Btw, I'm talking about sythe here, my family don't have post counts or admins

 

[Billetes]

OMM if you don't trust someone.

 

[obstinato10]

yeah, and you said "I just see staff using there title to get trust" in some cases but really thats furthest from the truth.

Ummm I didn't post this so everyone could have a go at me.. but ok this might be fun (not)

and what happened with BMTH? he used the fact that he was a mod to get people to trust him yes?
then took there money..
thats just an example and im not saying that all staff do this..

 

[obstinato10]

Now I have always been abit when trading through sythe and as many of you know this place is full of scammers.
I was flamed on msn not to long ago when doing a trade (IRL one) because I was not happy going first to this person even though he had a much higher post count as I did, he then went and offered getting a mod involved with the trade.
Now there is alot of things that can go wrong with a trade with real life stuff, they can just say they never got the goods etc, I have heard of OMM's saying they never got the stuff in the mail and I just dont believe because you have been given a picture and title gives you trust.

and how can you trust the OMM's? (not saying you cant)

 

[I'm Still Breathing]

I don't believe Daily was ever admin. Global at most, afaik.

That's what happens when you blindly trust anyone. :-(

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=844232

According to that thread he was.

 

[deadly serious]

That's why you use OMM for big trades they've done $1000+ trades, why would they scam your $20 now? Also if you can't trust anyone, why are you here?

 

[FaTaL Sh0t X]

I believe a lot of them are trusted at a point in time, but just lose intrest in the site.

 

[obstinato10]

That's why you use OMM for big trades they've done $1000+ trades, why would they scam your $20 now? Also if you can't trust anyone, why are you here?

Im sorry I didnt know this thread was about me... This site isnt for just trust people with your trades.. Should I leave because I don't trust people I dont know?


I'm not talking about $20, I'm talking like $100's
and its very easy for someone to just say, hey it got lost in the post and get away with it.
How do you know the OMM's havent scammed someone before (not saying they have)

Do not twist this on me please, I didn't create this thread to get flamed, thats why I asked a question

 

[Billetes]

Exactly, if you can't trust anyone, black market is not for you. You are doing something you shouldn't do, of course there's some sort of risk.

 

[obstinato10]

I'm not here for the black market... this isnt a forum just to sell stuff, even though it is a big part of it.
I do have a few things im selling yes, but I won't be sending anything without payment or to someone I don't trust.

 

[owain jones]

vouches and attitude are big for me. I choose not to go first to anyone (other than a very select few), and if someones being a total prick i'll simply decline their trade or push them around.

I would not trust an OMM for their status, nor a mod. If it came down to it I would use an admin for a larger trade, and nothing but.