Why do you believe in God?

[SuF]

Every topic I've seen like this seems to be full of atheists who tag the believers with the burden of proof. I don't understand why those of us who are agnostic or religious need to prove our belief when there is no proof there isn't a God or greater being either.

I'm not sure I believe in a God in the sense that most would. I think of it as more of an intelligent, self aware, powerful energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

You can not disprove that Santa exists so to win an argument about his existence you must prove that he does in fact exist.

 

[Pakistani]

So what do atheists believe about how the universe started?

 

[Joker91]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

You can not disprove that Santa exists so to win an argument about his existence you must prove that he does in fact exist.

Works the other way around, too. I don't see why you posted this.

 

[SuF]

Works the other way around, too. I don't see why you posted this.

What do you mean it works the other way? There is NO WAY to prove the non-existence of something. It is impossible, so the burden of proof lies with the believer.

So what do atheists believe about how the universe started?

Infinite cycle of expanding and clasping universes.

 

[Joker91]

What do you mean it works the other way? There is NO WAY to prove the non-existence of something. It is impossible, so the burden of proof lies with the believer.

Right, so give me undeniable proof that the universe was created by scientific means. You're the believer now, prove away.

 

[blazinfasstt]

Right, so give me undeniable proof that the universe was created by scientific means. You're the believer now, prove away.

why does the universe have to have been created???

nice assumption

 

[Joker91]

why does the universe have to have been created???

nice assumption

I haven't been a member here long and your arrogance is already pissing me off. Don't nitpick. I'm sure you knew my meaning as to a reason for it existing scientifically at all.

 

[phillyboi215]

i dont belive in god...

 

[Joker91]

http://godandscience.org/

 

[Spearhead]

Where did matter itself come from? Before the Big Bang, I'm not sure if many of you can make your mind think about this but... try and think where did the first atom come from? How did all this start? How old is it if it isn't infinite?

It truly confuses the human mind to try and imagine there being no universe, when I try I usually just picture an endless white room in my head and can't put together any theories about how it all was started and how time itself exists before there was a universe.

Think about that.

 

[Goldfishman]

Generally, people believe in God because of their fear of the afterlife. I am a Catholic, i wouldn't say i am a devoted member of my church but i do believe in God because whoever "it" is, He has provided me with many gifts and privileges that i do greatly appreciate. for those who argue that God is unfair. Life is unfair. For example, there are children born into poverty, and i agree with you, if God was great, he wouldn't do this to anyone. however, what's to appreciate if life was an utopia?

 

[Goldfishman]

Regarding previous posts, the universe may have been created from the Big Bang, humans could've been evolved from ape's, but that may have been God's way of changing things, through science or whatever you call it. If any of you have read angels and demands or da vinci code, you can get another perspective on the whole ongoing science vs religion hype.

 

[blazinfasstt]

Generally, people believe in God because of their fear of the afterlife. I am a Catholic, i wouldn't say i am a devoted member of my church but i do believe in God because whoever "it" is, He has provided me with many gifts and privileges that i do greatly appreciate. for those who argue that God is unfair. Life is unfair. For example, there are children born into poverty, and i agree with you, if God was great, he wouldn't do this to anyone. however, what's to appreciate if life was an utopia?

what is to appreciate if life is a utopia?
how about all the hobbies and vacationing and relaxing that some people get to do because they do not have to work to earn a meager wage.

certainly you can agree that there is more joy in participating in self-actualizing activities, such as art and community projects, than there is in working 2 jobs for minimum wage, while earning no benefits from either job, and supporting three children.

 

[blazinfasstt]

Where did matter itself come from? Before the Big Bang, I'm not sure if many of you can make your mind think about this but... try and think where did the first atom come from? How did all this start? How old is it if it isn't infinite?

It truly confuses the human mind to try and imagine there being no universe, when I try I usually just picture an endless white room in my head and can't put together any theories about how it all was started and how time itself exists before there was a universe.

Think about that.

i like the idea of an oscillating universe

 

[malakadang]

I don't get why people say, but the universe was created by something so it must be God!!!

Yes well God was created by another God, and so on until there are so many Gods that we are breathing in God like we breath in Oxygen.

 

[SuF]

Right, so give me undeniable proof that the universe was created by scientific means. You're the believer now, prove away.

You can never prove anything, so I can not give you proof. All I can say is give proof to your claims. The fact is, you have none. There are facts that support the big bang. Time and time again science has been able to explain things that people first attributed to the super natural. This trend makes it more likely that a natural process created our universe which makes God not necessary meaning there is no further proof of him.

 

[drainingpower]

Take a massive trip (if you know what I mean), and you will see and experience. Then come back on this thread and share.

(not encouraging anything, however).

i dont belive in god...

Great argument "cool" 13 year old boy. Telling the world that statement gives you +1 to your e-cool reputation.

Congratulations.

Every topic I've seen like this seems to be full of atheists who tag the believers with the burden of proof. I don't understand why those of us who are agnostic or religious need to prove our belief when there is no proof there isn't a God or greater being either.

I'm not sure I believe in a God in the sense that most would. I think of it as more of an intelligent, self aware, powerful energy.

Not atheists, just typical 13 year old boys trying to be rebels, if you notice, 95% of the forums is filled with those.

 

[SuF]

Take a massive trip (if you know what I mean), and you will see and experience. Then come back on this thread and share.

(not encouraging anything, however).




Great argument "cool" 13 year old boy. Telling the world that statement gives you +1 to your e-cool reputation.

Congratulations.



Not atheists, just typical 13 year old boys trying to be rebels, if you notice, 95% of the forums is filled with those.

Who a person is does not make any argument they make any more or less valid. I am an atheist and unless something big happens, this is not going to change.

 

I haven't been a member here long and your arrogance is already pissing me off. Don't nitpick. I'm sure you knew my meaning as to a reason for it existing scientifically at all.

Your confrontation was not necessary. Take it out of the forums if you need to argue about something so pointless.

 

[Dr Lauftstein]

To keep people sane they need to believe that there life has a purpose.


Not to troll but on what day did god create the fossils?

Dinosaurs did. When they died.