Verified/Vouches

[Elena]

Hello everyone,

I have been exploring through the forum the past couple of weeks, and started looking over the denied suggestions list. I saw "Allow vouching for GFX " now I know what you are thinking but please read on. It seems to me that people think that vouching for a low quality of work in order to obtain trust quickly is the issue and from what I have read the argument comes up that it is no different then free skilling and why is one allowed and one is not allowed. So here is what I purpose that the staff gets together and creates a verified mini rank and it is for GFX artists, The staff then makes certain regulations that must be met in order for an artist to obtain one of these mini ranks. If an artist has one of these mini ranks that means that their work meets the expectations quality wise. Meaning ( Not some 5 second GFX ) then they are allowed to receive vouches for it. I honestly don't think this would be hard to implement and It would make both sides happy, it would make GFX happy and there would be no more arguments between free skilling vouching and GFX. I am not saying your GFX has to look the best but, you would be able to tell who just throws things together to get vouches and who doesn't. Keep in mind people have to order as well.




- Modifications could be made by staff where they see fit this is just a rough draft.


- Also, added in. I think in a sense it is the same as gold selling. No one accesses my account when I am selling gold or anyone else's for that matter it is purely virtual goods. Just like GFX it is no different then someone selling 10m gold to 50 different people now that person has 50 vouches. Yet no one elses account has ever been accessed just a mere trade of virtual goods.

- Paid GFX only

 

[Heeatz]

It would hurt you if you didnt have that mini rank and you were doing work to your best standard, and you could still do some 5 second gfx even if you had the rank.

I do disagree with the vouching for GFX, so in all im sure this could work. le support

 

[Elena]

^ There may need to be a few adjustments made by staff as they see fit, but I think the whole overall idea could work

 

[Heeatz]

Yeah, im sure they could implement this with a couple of changes; and it would make artists strive for this mini rank, therefore maybe doing better work

 

[n4n0]

I've always been kind of 50/50 on the no vouching for gfx. The artists do spend a fair amount of time on their services, and in some cases, even get paid first to do them, so that shows a level of trust. On the other hand, this can be abused by people doing 10 second GFX work and getting vouched for it. It's really a double edged sword.

 

[Elena]

^ which is exactly why there should be this mini rank. It would be no different if I did 5 training levels on 50 different peoples accounts I would have all of these vouches but for low amounts. If the artist has this rank then it would take care of those problems.

 

[xDePloY]

The issue is that; even if it might be 5 seconds work it may still look good. Also alot of behind scenes work to create things such as lightrooms, templates and pre-thought materials. Also a artist mini-rank is a good idea but I doubt approval of GFX vouches. Neither do I actually want that to happen. GFX does not prove much in trust itself due to the artist just needing to design then trading it for cash. Also the quality for GFX vouches would not prove much in trustability and would just cause heaps of confusing and concerns.

EDIT:

I've always been kind of 50/50 on the no vouching for gfx. The artists do spend a fair amount of time on their services, and in some cases, even get paid first to do them, so that shows a level of trust. On the other hand, this can be abused by people doing 10 second GFX work and getting vouched for it. It's really a double edged sword.

N4n0s wording in opinion is sorta a way to sum up mine :L.

I've been GFX for abit and put a hell alot of effort in the layouts on such as your own (Ellenas RSGOLD and MM thread) layout and yet I am to receive one of those mini-ranks.

 

[Heeatz]

I've always been kind of 50/50 on the no vouching for gfx. The artists do spend a fair amount of time on their services, and in some cases, even get paid first to do them, so that shows a level of trust. On the other hand, this can be abused by people doing 10 second GFX work and getting vouched for it. It's really a double edged sword.

This will help implement the abusers; and maybe even the abusers can have their rank removed/ban from gfx section for awhile possibly?

I was thinking if they abused their rank, then they can have the rank, but with a giant red cross over it

 

[xDePloY]

This will help implement the abusers; and maybe even the abusers can have their rank removed/ban from gfx section for awhile possibly?

I was thinking if they abused their rank, then they can have the rank, but with a giant red cross over it

Yeah the major issue with GFX vouches is people abusing them as said above. However, there actually isn't many GFX section moderators. However, I suppose that new one will be recruited to monitor this. However it still is a time consuming and annoying problem to be monitor over.

It would hurt you if you didnt have that mini rank and you were doing work to your best standard, and you could still do some 5 second gfx even if you had the rank.

I do disagree with the vouching for GFX, so in all im sure this could work. le support

Also theres ways of getting popular first. Like how I got sorta known in the gfx section by doing freebies for abit. Then offically launching the thread. After that you could probably apply for the mini rank like getting a guide verified.

 

[Elena]

@ Deploy but it's really not people say there is no transactions of items etc. It is no different then gold trading, no one is getting on my account and trading my gold It is a virtual item as to is GFX yet We can be vouched for that?

 

[xDePloY]

@ Deploy but it's really not people say there is no transactions of items etc. It is no different then gold trading, no one is getting on my account and trading my gold It is a virtual item as to is GFX yet We can be vouched for that?

My meaning is that I believe GFX trades are actually pretty low in value compared to your average gold trade and people could possibly abuse them. As most people say Quality over Quantity!.

Also what about freebies!?? There is no trust it in. When training/skilling for someone; you have possession of their items etc which has trust imposed on them. WIth GFX freebies there is nothing to lose; hence their is no actual trade!!

Thats one of the factors we must take into consideration + others. Just abusing them would be a fuss.

 

[Elena]

ok? So make it for paid GFX only? Don't see the big deal there.

 

[xDePloY]

ok? So make it for paid GFX only? Don't see the big deal there.

It would effect newcomers joining in as a newcomer. E.g. I was a newcomer to graphics until I did the following statement above.

Also theres ways of getting popular first. Like how I got sorta known in the gfx section by doing freebies for abit. Then offically launching the thread. After that you could probably apply for the mini rank like getting a guide verified.

Without freebies; people would find it alot harder to grow due to people not willing to pay for uncertain or unknown designers. Also theres way to avoid people knowing that you did freebies and able to vouch for them. Such as just saying "Vouch! Made me signature" etc.

 

[Heeatz]

Obviously dont vouch for freebies, but a paid transaction is just like buying rsgp, say 10-30m of it. Do you get a vouch for buying 10-30m rsgp? Yes you do, so why not the same with graphics?

 

I've always been kind of 50/50 on the no vouching for gfx. The artists do spend a fair amount of time on their services, and in some cases, even get paid first to do them, so that shows a level of trust. On the other hand, this can be abused by people doing 10 second GFX work and getting vouched for it. It's really a double edged sword.

Maybe you could just make something like "official recommendations" for gfx. That way you could stress that it can only be used for trust within the graphics marketplace - a place where there are 0 big scams.

 

[xDePloY]

Obviously dont vouch for freebies, but a paid transaction is just like buying rsgp, say 10-30m of it. Do you get a vouch for buying 10-30m rsgp? Yes you do, so why not the same with graphics?

http://www.sythe.org/11853102-post13.html

As I posted up top. People can abuse this rule easily but not mentioning it was freebie?

EDIT:

Maybe you could just make something like "official recommendations" for gfx. That way you could stress that it can only be used for trust within the graphics marketplace - a place where there are 0 big scams.

Yeah! Sorta like verified guides and all but more strictly chosen etc. However, it doesn't solve the problem people can abuse vouches and the issues which can arrive when using GFX vouches. As I must say I again if its not clear "A GFX designer could have designed a free design for someone, however tells the customer not to mention it was free in order to recieve le vouch.

 

[Heeatz]

http://www.sythe.org/11853102-post13.html

As I posted up top. People can abuse this rule easily but not mentioning it was freebie?

Which, as i said above, will lead to a big red cross on your gfx minirank and a temp ban in the gfx market - maybe 3 days/1 week

 

[xDePloY]

Which, as i said above, will lead to a big red cross on your gfx minirank and a temp ban in the gfx market - maybe 3 days/1 week

It is hard to remotely find evidence as the offender of the rule will probably use MSN/Skype to the tell the guy. Also its hard to find people who are willing to bring forward the offender just after he/she has done them a favour. However it is a plausible suggestion as I see no other way or we can do that and Jack Goff's suggestion of Official recommendations.

 

[S]

Didn't read every post, only N4N0's and the OP.

I completely disagree Elena. Obtaining a special GFX rank will create bias. It will allow that artist to dominate the market in most cases, and it will deter new GFX'ers from entering the market. More so, people who don't have the rank will simply not bother to create quality work.

You said you can tell if someone simply 'throws something together'. That can't be further from the truth. Art/GFX is subjective. What may look rushed and horrible to you, maybe be well received and liked by others.

Anyway, no support. This is not needed.

 

[Heeatz]

Didn't read every post, only N4N0's and the OP.

I completely disagree Elena. Obtaining a special GFX rank will create bias. It will allow that artist to dominate the market in most cases, and it will deter new GFX'ers from entering the market. More so, people who don't have the rank will simply not bother to create quality work.

You said you can tell if someone simply 'throws something together'. That can't be further from the truth. Art/GFX is subjective. What may look rushed and horrible to you, maybe be well received and liked by others.

Anyway, no support. This is not needed.

People who dont have the rank will strive to achieve the rank... And why just OP and n4n0's lol?

Im sure this could be implemented to work one way or another