Vouches for paid GFX work.

[Marckiee]

Vouches for paid GFX work seems reasonable.

If you can sell a virtual runescape guide that you wrote, which has little to no value if you were scammed, then you should be able to vouch for a graphic that has in my opinion, more of a value.

Some people spend hours on certain graphics for users, and it really deserves to be vouchable if someone is paying for it.

If you can vouch for free services, why not be able to vouch for paid GFX.

Opinions?

 

[adamh]

Lol, one of my vouches is for GFX, didn't even know they weren't aloud.

Anyway, I think they should only apply if the other person goes first, and trusts you with their gold.

 

[Kid.Ink]

I support.

Your still basically buying a item so it still does count as a trade.. It's very reasonable.

 

[JohnK]

There have been many discussions regarding this rule in the past...
For reference, read this thread: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=993718

Refer to Sin666's posts on page 4 for reasoning.

 

[Marckiee]

There have been many discussions regarding this rule in the past...
For reference, read this thread: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=993718

Refer to Sin666's posts on page 4 for reasoning.

Sin666 show's stupidity on the topic because who's going to pay for shitty GFX? No one, so it's not a waste of vouches.

Also, "everyone can do GFX" also makes Sin666 ignorant, because I could say, "everyone can bot a runescape account" so does that make runescape account sales unvouchable aswell?

 

[Punjabi3]

What sin was saying was a 1-3 minute job can make a decent Gfx people would do a shitty job on a gfx for free and would request a vouch for it.

I don't know if you read this: http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=8031287&postcount=74 or if you only read the first point... Also the fact that you can request payment should be enough, people who have made my sig + avatar took 5 minutes max each, and I paid about 7mil I think, imagine in about a day somebody could have 30+ vouches head over to market, scam, and start again.

Also I believe watermarks remove the "trust" aspect of a gfx trade: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=878101. With a watermark the Gfx is already done, once paid its simply removed.

 

[Marckiee]

What sin was saying was a 1-3 minute job can make a decent Gfx people would do a shitty job on a gfx for free and would request a vouch for it.

I don't know if you read this: http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=8031287&postcount=74 or if you only read the first point... Also the fact that you can request payment should be enough, people who have made my sig + avatar took 5 minutes max each, and I paid about 7mil I think, imagine in about a day somebody could have 30+ vouches head over to market, scam, and start again.

Also I believe watermarks remove the "trust" aspect of a gfx trade: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=878101. With a watermark the Gfx is already done, once paid its simply removed.

Well then, I guess you're just stupid for actually paying bad GFX.

 

[Aesiir]

Well then, I guess you're just stupid for actually paying bad GFX.

Probably not a good idea to call punjabi3 stupid.
Back onto topic: This is a bad idea. It's been rejected numerous times and no one will really support this.

 

[Marckiee]

Probably not a good idea to call punjabi3 stupid.
Back onto topic: This is a bad idea. It's been rejected numerous times and no one will really support this.

Are you threatning me?

OT: No one will support it, but theres 2 supporters on the page already. Leave.

 

[Punjabi3]

Well then, I guess you're just stupid for actually paying bad GFX.

Nice grammar while calling me stupid. Also this has been denied several times due to the reason I stated.

People would set up shops such as yours: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1172128 and as I said before rake up vouches for shitty gfx and go the market stating they have "amount of vouches" while there was no risk involved at all because the graphic was already made, and as soon as payment was received the watermark was removed.

 

[Marckiee]

Nice grammar while calling me stupid. Also this has been denied several times due to the reason I stated.

People would set up shops such as yours: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1172128 and as I said before rake up vouches for shitty gfx and go the market stating they have "amount of vouches" while there was no risk involved at all because the graphic was already made, and as soon as payment was received the watermark was removed.

My GFX is free you ignorant idiot. This is for PAID GFX. If you buy shitty GFX, you're a moron, so I guess you're calling yourself a moron. There's no risk involved for verified guides, because they're on the internet in a .txt document and have already proven to be legit, but you can still vouch for them. You're just an idiot making bad excuses for as to why GFX shouldn't be vouchable.

P.S: It's not a grammar fail, smartass. It's a typo, as I forgot a word. Grammar is when you spell something incorrectly.

 

[JohnK]

Sin666 show's stupidity on the topic because who's going to pay for shitty GFX? No one, so it's not a waste of vouches.

Also, "everyone can do GFX" also makes Sin666 ignorant, because I could say, "everyone can bot a runescape account" so does that make runescape account sales unvouchable aswell?

Take a chill pill and then re-read what she says. She makes a lot more sense than you.

 

[StakingMakesBank]

100% Support.

If people are paying for a service; and the service is done to the standards they are paying for there is still an element of deserving recognition for quality of their work; and reliability. Same as having someome train your runescape account; or get you your firecape.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Austintheman]

All you did on this thread was:
Flame
Argue
Then repeated 1&2. It's a good way to get your thread locked.

Anyway, i do agree with it, however, someone can say 'they don't like the sig' and not pay. Sigs take a lot of work, they're not something you take out in 5 minutes.

 

[Lym]

inafterflamewars.

I think there should be an official rank for GFX people.
Which they have to apply for, after they get so many satisfied customers.
If they have the rank, vouches are allowed. Would work quite nicely.

Also if this gets taken into consideration.
Possibly the first thing that can happen is a Rank contest, whoever can make the nicest rank image. (Voted on)
Become the first member of the group and the group would use that rank image. ^_^

 

[Piramid]

Support, you are trusting them with the money to make gfx, still involves trust

 

[Expulsion]

If you can sell a virtual runescape guide that you wrote, which has little to no value if you were scammed, then you should be able to vouch for a graphic that has in my opinion, more of a value.
If someone steals your guide, you lose customers if the person leaks it or tells other people, and some one out there gets to learn whatever you secretly know for free. That thought alone makes me sad.

Some people spend hours on certain graphics for users, and it really deserves to be vouchable if someone is paying for it.
Keyword: Some. Not all people spend hours on graphics. Most people put zero effort for the money. If it becomes vouchable, more people will create zero effort graphics for the free vouches.

If you can vouch for free services, why not be able to vouch for paid GFX.
Free services on RuneScape are vouchable because you are trusting the person with your account and they can easily steal all of your money, hcange password and have a free account. You don't lose anything if you get scammed for graphics besides time.

Anyway, I think they should only apply if the other person goes first, and trusts you with their gold.
Disagree, why would the person go first without seeing the graphics?

Sin666 show's stupidity on the topic because who's going to pay for shitty GFX? No one, so it's not a waste of vouches.
Obviously, a lot of people do or they make it themselves because I have seen a lot of shitty graphics being sold in my time.

Also, "everyone can do GFX" also makes Sin666 ignorant, because I could say, "everyone can bot a runescape account" so does that make runescape account sales unvouchable aswell?
Everyone can do graphics, just not be as good as it. You are the perfect example. Yes, everyone can bot a RuneScape account, but I do not see your argument here. RuneScape account sales unvouchable because everyone can bot a RuneScape account? Please elaborate.

If people are paying for a service; and the service is done to the standards they are paying for there is still an element of deserving recognition for quality of their work; and reliability. Same as having someome train your runescape account; or get you your firecape.
The recognition is a thank you and some money. What more could you want? When you are letting someone train your account or getting a firecape for you, you are trusting them with your account, so therefore, when they finish and your account is still yours, you can vouch that they will not scam someone. When you are paying someone money to give you some graphics, you already know he has it ready and he just needs to remove the watermark, unless the person signs off after the payment and says, "Have fun with the watermark, faggot," which is highly unlikely. I highly doubt the graphics seller would show his graphics without a watermark before being sold, so therefore, nothing is lost besides precious time.

@Lym Like an OMM rank but for graphics? Sounds interesting but not really needed seeing how dead the graphics section is practically dead.

@Piramid Elaborate please. I don't see money being trusted anywhere.

I honestly think it should be rule breaking to just be selling graphics, because graphics are meant to express, not earn money.

Vouches for graphics has not once been allowed since I joined and probably never will be. Just sayin
(well actually, i think it's been allowed in like 07 lol)

tl;dr: vouches are for trust, not time

gf thread

 

[NzReborn]

How many times are people going to question about this? there are many and i mean many other threads on this. there really is no trust in paid GFX they never go first anyway 99% of the time they show you an example with a water mark you pay them if any one deserves a vouch its the buyer :S , but if the buyer likes it they can post on there GFX thread with good feedback.

Dont support sorry they could just boost there vouches with never having any risk =/

 

[Revolight]

I support, GFXs are basically items or services.

 

[Kinaesthic]

No support, you can always ask them to put a testimonial on your thread, they're way more in-depth and in my opinion more valuable then a simple vouch.