This is the first time I've legitimately considered murdering someone.

[ShipTheFlip]

I'm not going to do it, but the pros HEAVILY fucking outweigh the cons.

A few months ago I had to move back into my parents' house while recovering from personal issues. I had forgotten how great life without all this drama was. I'm 24 years old (I know it's sad but it had to be done) and have a 22 year old brother.

This brother is the biggest piece of shit I've ever met. He got his first job a few months ago, and before that has just lived off of my parents his entire life. Screaming, cussing, and demanding money when he needs it for weed or whatever other drugs he's fucking with. I literally do not speak to this piece of shit because of how he treats my parents. It started when we were kids, somewhere around ages 14/12. We went on a vacation to the Grand Canyon and he ruined the entire trip for everybody by throwing a bitch fit and attacking my Dad, choking him to the point where he had nearly passed out before I intervened. He had been an asshole before this, but this is the first time it had ever gotten physical. My parents spent a decent amount of money to take us here and let us have a good time, and he ruined it by being a selfish piece of shit.

Now, present day, despite having his own job and money, he's still living here and terrorizing them. Today he came home from work and immediately started screaming at my mom about his phone being broken and saying how he needed a new one. He has his own money and vehicle to go to the store and get one, but insisted that she go to the store for him to get his phone because he had been working all day. Initially he refused, and he started screaming and cussing at her again. Telling her what a lazy piece of shit she is and how she does nothing at all to contribute to the family (despite the fact that he's living in her house and paying NO bills. Eventually he started threatening her, saying he was going to beat her ass and that she's lucky he hasn't killed her yet, saying that it takes everything he has to restrain himself from killing her. All she was saying throughout the entire argument was that he needed to show some respect.

Logic doesn't work with him. Beating his ass doesn't work. My mom refuses to kick him out of the house (although my dad's completely ready and willing to do so), and he continues terrorizing my parents every day that he's here. I've never hated someone so much in my life. Just seeing him, even when he's not being a fucking child, makes my blood boil.

I'm not going to kill him, my parents would be devastated that they lost both of their sons. I've looked into it and I can't have him taken to a mental hospital against his will. I've called the police multiple times and every time they tell us there's nothing they can do, ESPECIALLY with my mom unwilling to press charges.

I don't think I have any options here. While I was out living on my own I hoped that this had stopped and that my parents weren't still being terrorized every day of their lives, but that's clearly not the case.

What can I do? The piece of shit won't listen to logic, he feels absolutely no remorse about ruining the people who he is dependant upon's lives, I can't beat sense into him, and I won't handle the problem the only way I know how to. Has anyone been in a similar situation or know any possible solutions?

I've posted a lot in this section in my short time back on Sythe and I apologize for that but I don't know what to do here

 

[jackthehackm8]

Do something that'll make him never to mess with you? I'm not going to lie, but keep beating his ass, it'll work eventually.

But you should really try to kick him out, he needs a glimpse of what reality is.

 

[ShipTheFlip]

Do something that'll make him never to mess with you? I'm not going to lie, but keep beating his ass, it'll work eventually.

But you should really try to kick him out, he needs a glimpse of what reality is.

I've tried all of that. He's too much of a stubborn asshole to care about anyone or anything but himself. They refuse to kick him out because "he's our son" which is fucking ridiculous. Not very smart on her part but all she's trying to do is love her sons and doesn't deserve what he puts her through.

My dad gets it from him too. Working on average 12 hours a day to pay the bills. My brother's the only one in the house not contributing AT ALL, literally never once done a single thing for anyone but himself. I'm not exaggerating. Never touched a dish, taken trash out, hell even thrown his own trash away... just leaving it out for his slaves to do for him.

I completely agree with you that he deserves to be homeless and see what reality's like so he can start appreciating everything they do for him. Or move out and let someone else deal with him. Being out on your own and coming back home makes you really appreciate things a lot more.

Also to clarify for everyone, this isn't just siblings not getting along. This is legitimate hate for a legitimate piece of shit.

 

Without your mom being willing to kick him out to see the real world... I don't know what you can do of any worth, beating won't work, he may have an underlining mental health problem or disability... was he spoilt as a child?

 

[Im Solo]

I hate to say things like this especially when family is involved, as I believe that everyone can change. However one thing you could do if your mother refuses to press charges is you could try to hate him into doing something against yourself, or your father if he is willing to press charges. Then you could even file for a restaining order. Say he "attacks" you one night, you could in turn say that you are in fear of your life and the well being of your entire family and therefore request a restraining order against him.

Come from a police officer background.

 

Your parents are part of the problem. Yes they love him blah blah blah, but they're being too soft.

Kick the cunt out.

 

king is right, you cannot change him you have to change you mother, she is enabling him.

 

[Conor McGregor]

Tell your mother to man up

 

[Lean]

In some states in America even if the victim refuses to press charges, once they give a statement to police the state takes over the case and presses charges against the victims will. You should look into that depending on where you live

 

[70i]

Your mom needs to kick him out or at least stop giving him money.

 

To be honest the only non-violent and good way to solve this problem is to have a serious and calm conversation with you parents about the situation. Like you said only them and ur mom has the power to kick him out. Convince them that keeping him in the house will only cause trouble and pain for everyone , including him. You must be persistent with your parents and level-headed. Your brother sounds like a shit-head. Don't stoop to that level.

 

[FiveBots]

He sounds like a cunt,
I have smashed my brother out before, but after that I felt so bad, don't let your temper get to you, ask your parents to come over for a week or so make sure you spoil them, make them do nothing.

They may understand your point, calm talk, say it's not right.

 

[kmjt]

Your mom needs to stop being an idiot and kick him out. All she is doing is enabling his behaviour.

 

[Sirpinoy]

Sounds like he 's just a spoiled brat whose time it is to live on his own and find his own way of living with himself (cleaning own stuff and making his own food, etc every single day). Would make him appreciate the things that were given his entire life.

 

[iHateQuesting]

@Wintastical If you live in the US you can have him baker acted in some states, 3 family members have to sign a form saying he's a danger of harming himself or others, in order for this to work when he is picked up/detained he will need to throw a bitch fit and act immature to be held for the full possible 90 days. I think all of this depends on the state you're in and what laws they have for it.

 

[ShipTheFlip]

@Wintastical If you live in the US you can have him baker acted in some states, 3 family members have to sign a form saying he's a danger of harming himself or others, in order for this to work when he is picked up/detained he will need to throw a bitch fit and act immature to be held for the full possible 90 days. I think all of this depends on the state you're in and what laws they have for it.

Thanks man, I'll look into it in Virginia. It'll be a bitch to get my mom to sign it, unless non-direct family members can sign. Things have been quiet since the day I posted this. It got heated later on that night and I think he's scared to do anything for a couple days. But it won't take long til he's back at it, so I hope this is an option.

The problem is that he's not actually a physical threat to anyone except maybe my mom but only if they're here alone. He's a scrawny fuck and no one takes his threats seriously. But one day they will become serious and I won't be living here much longer to protect her so I wanna get this sorted before I leave.

Thank you everyone for the input. I needed to vent the night that this happened before I did something dumb

 

[Azie]

Your mum has to change her ways otherwise he will continue to take advantage of the situation because he can. Its a bad place to be as I was trying to imagine myself in your shoes and was getting angry myself! Your mum has to be more tough otherwise he has no reason to change honestly.

 

[Rob White]

Murder is never the answer, You would just make YOUR life HELL and your parents life shitty as well. I've dealt with a similar situation and the only solution here if for your parents to kick him out. Easier said than done, but you should try to sit down and have a legitimate conversation with your parents about your brother.

 

[ShipTheFlip]

Murder is never the answer, You would just make YOUR life HELL and your parents life shitty as well. I've dealt with a similar situation and the only solution here if for your parents to kick him out. Easier said than done, but you should try to sit down and have a legitimate conversation with your parents about your brother.

Trust me I've tried tons of times. And I know, that's why I made it clear I'm not actually killing anyone. I'll be moving back out soon so I don't have to deal with it anymore, but hopefully they'll reconsider letting him stay here.

 

[Rob White]

Trust me I've tried tons of times. And I know, that's why I made it clear I'm not actually killing anyone. I'll be moving back out soon so I don't have to deal with it anymore, but hopefully they'll reconsider letting him stay here.

Well then I hate to say it but your parents are just as much at fault. You can only do so much honestly.

Moving out is the best thing you can do if you can afford it.