Sythe.org IRC v2.0 - Support?

[Billyy]

Sure, why not.

 

[Shawn_]

The last IRC didn't adhere to Sythe's rules. Furthermore, if there was abuse in this IRC, the person would either be removed from power, or the IRC would simply have the DNS removed. For these reasons, I'm confident x9 would ensure there would be no abuse.

I'm fed up with this bullshit.

"The last IRC didn't adhere to Sythe's rules"

I WAS NOT GIVEN ANY RULES UNTIL THE DNS WAS REMOVED.

If you don't know what you are talking about, don't talk about it.

You know as well as I do that operating a channel is both basic and easy.

It's easy for you because you know how to do it.

 

[Inventor]

This is getting way too serious

It's simply a chat

Stop getting so defensive

If problems arise go to a different chat or fix the current one of the times

 

[r0ut3r]

Out of the 30 that voted "Yes" only about 20 max where on every day, and it was the same people everyday with the old irc.

 

[Darkgroove]

Question should be whether you would use this IRC server or the ghostnet one?

 

[x⁹]

Question should be whether you would use this IRC server or the ghostnet one?

Why? GhostsNet has the same amount of relevance here as SwiftIRC or EFNet (that is, none).

I won't be leaving GhostsNet even with a new Sythe.org IRC. The two are unrelated entirely.

 

[Tengauge12]

I believe that this should be done, as I have noticed and encountered a few scams on the IRC.

Especially for the IRC to go along with the rules as they are here on Sythe.

When I requested for confirmation or proof of the individuals IP etc.. I am basically told to fuck off by Shawn, and that no information would be given.

I don't even get on IRC anymore really, and if I do I just speak randomly, and always AFK. Because, of the immaturity on there.

I like the new idea of a new IRC network specifically for Sythe, rather the the one now which is ran by an asshole. No offense Shawn, but you are.. Especially to cover your own friends asses as to getting a kickout of it.. Even when their highly doing wrong.

Kinda pisses me off to show favoritism towards individuals just because you're friends with them.. Especially when their breaking the rules or scamming. Considering that.. It makes it as if you don't mind your friends to scam, or even if you done it yourself.

 

[hardxcore]

Well just cause i'm awesome i'll support it.
Also because i love x9.

If it goes ahead i will donate n shit too.

 

[Darkgroove]

Why? GhostsNet has the same amount of relevance here as SwiftIRC or EFNet (that is, none).

I won't be leaving GhostsNet even with a new Sythe.org IRC. The two are unrelated entirely.

You won't, but the majority of users will flock to one or the other.

 

If you go ahead with this and get at least 40 people in one channel at one time, I will eat my hat.

 

[TDD]

If you go ahead with this and get at least 40 people in one channel at one time, I will eat my hat.

I accept that challenge! But you must supply video of you eating said hat.

 

[Tengauge12]

I made a new one for myself.. As I did not like the one ya'll made No offense.

 

[x⁹]

I made a new one for myself.. As I did not like the one ya'll made No offense.

TDD made it in about a minute (from the larger one in his signature which he found on google).

Pretty good effort for a minute.

 

[Shawn_]

I believe that this should be done, as I have noticed and encountered a few scams on the IRC.

Especially for the IRC to go along with the rules as they are here on Sythe.

When I requested for confirmation or proof of the individuals IP etc.. I am basically told to fuck off by Shawn, and that no information would be given.

I don't even get on IRC anymore really, and if I do I just speak randomly, and always AFK. Because, of the immaturity on there.

I like the new idea of a new IRC network specifically for Sythe, rather the the one now which is ran by an asshole. No offense Shawn, but you are.. Especially to cover your own friends asses as to getting a kickout of it.. Even when their highly doing wrong.

Kinda pisses me off to show favoritism towards individuals just because you're friends with them.. Especially when their breaking the rules or scamming. Considering that.. It makes it as if you don't mind your friends to scam, or even if you done it yourself.

Personally, I'm glad you don't come around ghostsnet anymore.

Lets look at some logs, shall we? You have a very very interesting definition of the word "requested"

May 02 15:58:14 <Tengauge12> Shawn.
May 02 15:58:31 <Tengauge12> Go through the Log and can you get me the IP of Boss_Man..
May 02 15:58:43 <Tengauge12> I need to see who he is from an inccident here yesterday
May 02 16:24:16 <Shawn> No

Sounds a lot more like a demand than a request.

Oh, and just for the record "No" does not mean Fuck off. This isn't even mentioning how the only reason you wanted said persons IP is that they were insulting you in query and calling you a liar.

You know, what I have a good idea.

How about I start demanding IPs of people on sythe.org and see what the staff tell me? I'm pretty sure it's sythe.org staff policy to NOT give out IPs to members. You are a ghostsnet MEMBER, why the hell do you deserve peoples IPs?

Also, I'm showing favoritism to scammers?

You NEVER ever gave me a reason as to why you should have been given an IP, you just demanded it.

Stop acting like your perfect, you are an annoying lying, guide ripper.

But hell, don't take my word for it lets take a look at something here.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=543805

Anyone else notice the shocking similarity to http://static.spawnpoint.com/pdf/howtospotahacker.pdf ?

The latter being written by a developer at spawnpoint named Alex.

Author: [PHXX]Mr_Me_II Creation Date: 29/05/07
Publishing Date: 29/05/07 Send Modifications To: [email protected]

 

[x&#8313;]

Oh dearie me... My little old thread has turned into a flame war...

 

[Esuom]

I am Pro-IRC.

 

[Jansen]

If you go ahead with this and get at least 40 people in one channel at one time, I will eat my hat.

for longer than the first week or two (if that)

 

[Pshynosis]

I voted yes. The more IRC servers, the better.

No. It's better to have one big server instead of 100 one channel servers.'

I voted no.

 

[Shawn_]

You must think I'm fucking stupid, Shawn.

I'm saying that if Sythe's rules had been in place, there wouldn't have been abuse. This goes in response to people who were claiming ''there would be abuse'' in an official IRC that adhered to Sythe's guidelines, ''just as there was previously''



Yes, and I think it took about ten minutes to learn, too.

Never underestimate peoples stupidity, or maybe just complete lack of will to learn who knows.

See the thing is I legitly tried to stop abuse, with the member base it was not possible without just removing every single op/halfop and if you do that people bitch and whine and leave.

As I've said in the past, and said at the time this was all happening.

I was pretty much left with two options:
1. Put up with moderate amounts of abuse
2. Have most of the active members leave with no proper way to recruit more

My prediction is that you are either going to end up with a completely dead IRC, or one where the memberbase is the typical sythe member in which case the staff are going to quickly get fed up with the amount of pestering they endure in the IRC.

Like I said to x9, I really don't care if you don't take my advice or if you think I'm wrong. Maybe I am wrong, but I do have a little bit of experience.

And for the record, no I don't think you are a fucking idiot I think to say:

"The old IRC didn't follow Sythe's rules." is both unfair and wrong when Sythe's rules didn't exist back then.

If you'd said "Sythe hadn't placed these rules on the previous server" I would have agreed. I do apologize for my harsh language however it is very frustrating to have people constantly repeat that.

 

[Benwise]

For the people agreeing on Sythes rules, what is the line between 'Abuse' and having fun? I'm sure if someone did something stupid and got kicked for like 10 minutes, people would report it as abuse and freak out.

I'm wondering how to solve that problem.