Slight change to forum rules.

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The Official Sythe.org Rules

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Users will be banned for 1 month for the following:

• Plagiarism: Plagiarism (including the ripping of GFX and RS/User Education Guides) results in a 1 month ban
• Disclosure of Others' Personal Information: Posting information such as private emails/MSNs, private Skype accounts, Facebook accounts, addresses, phone numbers, private photos, etc. of someone other than yourself without explicit consent of that person will result in up to a 1 month ban regardless of whether or not the information is publicly available
• Attempting to trade with a DNT* rank (second offence)

Users will be banned for 6 months for the following:

• Disclosure of Personal Information of a Staff Member or Acquaintance of a Staff Member: This includes, but is not limited to, full names, private emails, Skype/Facebook, addresses, phone numbers, private photos, etc
  • There will be a 6 month Spam Forum ban on top of this
  • A second offence from the same user will result in a permanent ban
  • This rule does not apply to information/photos that the staff have posted publicly on Sythe about themselves (or reposting of the same provided the original thread still exists)
  • For the sake of clarity, an acquaintance of a staff member is a family member or close friend who is only associated with Sythe through a staff member, if at all

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I'm specifically talking about the rule that talks about disclosing personal information. As it is now, if I go and post personal pictures and other information about a random person, I will receive a one month ban. However, if I do it for a forum mod, then I will receive a six month ban. I'm all for this rule and it really should be in place, but it should be a set six months across the board. This is personal information regardless and it shouldn't be more or less important just depending on whose information gets posted.

No one should have their information publicly posted. While I understand that not many people may do it to begin with, I just don't see why a staff member is so much more special than anyone else - or even one of their friends... - whereas it warrants an extra five month forum ban compared to doing the exact same thing to a non staff member.

I believe that everyone's privacy should be held equally important and punishable should it be revealed. There is nothing that makes a staff member more important than anyone else where it warrants an extra five month ban. I do realize that they are volunteering and some may be getting paid, but this is still an important subject.

If you disagree, please state why. I would like to hear all of your opinions

 

[tMoon]

I would be fine with an increase in ban for normal users, but not a decrease in staff. Releasing staff information has a long ban time as staff are occasionally the target for doxing given their position and we have had multiple instances of staff members being targeted and even harassed with personal information.

 

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I would be fine with an increase in ban for normal users, but not a decrease in staff. Releasing staff information has a long ban time as staff are occasionally the target for doxing given their position and we have had multiple instances of staff members being targeted and even harassed with personal information.

That's fine. I was thinking of having them both at six months anyway. A one month ban is sort of like a slap on the wrist...that's like scamming someone then saying I'll ban you for a month but promise not to do it again - it's not a real punishment where people would be differed from doing it.

Additionally, I think it should be a case by case. If someone does a full dox on someone then I believe they should almost be permanentlily banned just because of how they are. If it's a little thing or something small then a few months or six months, whatever.

Why should someone who does a full dox get the same punishment as someone who just posts a parson's picture or name?

I've seen some people get dox'd and end up completely quitting and deleting everything due to the amount of shit they dealt with from all the idiots online messing around thinking it's fun.

 

[Pain]

I don't support.

I'd like to see the personal information rule abolished all together.

 

Staff members are more likely to have grudges against them hence probably why that rule was made if anything up the rule for normal users to 6 months as well

 

[RoomScape]

I don't support.

I'd like to see the personal information rule abolished all together.

Why is that? People shouldn't be on here and have some random guy post all their life's information online for some kids to see. It's supposed to be private. Whether or not it's easily available is not the point.

 

[RoomScape]

Staff members are more likely to have grudges against them hence probably why that rule was made if anything up the rule for normal users to 6 months as well

I get what you mean but that shouldn't be a thing. You shouldn't have a longer ban time just because a staff member doesn't like you. I would consider that power abuse. You're no better than anyone else so the punishment should all be the same. I get that staff may treat you differently but that shouldn't justify the difference in ban length over a vendetta.

 

I get what you mean but that shouldn't be a thing. You shouldn't have a longer ban time just because a staff member doesn't like you. I would consider that power abuse. You're no better than anyone else so the punishment should all be the same. I get that staff may treat you differently but that shouldn't justify the difference in ban length over a vendetta.

That's not how it works, even if the staff member doesn't like you it doesn't change the ban length. it specifically gives a 6-month ban because they are in the spotlight. If somebody leaked my personal info I wouldn't care too much, I wouldn't like it obviously but I don't care because I'm not doing anything wrong. On the other hand if I'm running a business and a staff member bans me and I leak his info out of pure Spite I should deserve a longer ban. The rule is literally not abusable by staff. If anything the guy that posts personal info publically is a retard ^^

 

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That's not how it works, even if the staff member doesn't like you it doesn't change the ban length. it specifically gives a 6-month ban because they are in the spotlight. If somebody leaked my personal info I wouldn't care too much, I wouldn't like it obviously but I don't care because I'm not doing anything wrong. On the other hand if I'm running a business and a staff member bans me and I leak his info out of pure Spite I should deserve a longer ban. The rule is literally not abusable by staff. If anything the guy that posts personal info publically is a retard ^^

I think we confused one another a little bit. Not saying its power abuse but i'm saying that the ban lengths should both be the same since it's the same offense.

You said staff member may hold grudges and I said that shouldn't be an issue since if they do they may power abuse since I've seen it in the past, lol.

But this rule, as it is, basically just punishes someone even more so just because it was done to a staff member which shouldn't fully be the case. Make it a flat punishment across the board.

 

i like it the way it is

its fun watching people threatening each other

 

I'd support bringing the staff one down to 3 months and bringing regular user one to 3 month and leaving them same. I feel as if player does so do something to a staff member they should be treated equally to normal member, that's just my personal opinion .

 

[RoomScape]

I'd support bringing the staff one down to 3 months and bringing regular user one to 3 month and leaving them same. I feel as if player does so do something to a staff member they should be treated equally to normal member, that's just my personal opinion .

Why not just have them both at three months? It's not like you can accidentally dox someone... it's intentional so the six month ban isn't a big problem in my eyes.

 

Why not just have them both at three months? It's not like you can accidentally dox someone... it's intentional so the six month ban isn't a big problem in my eyes.

I may have made a mistake in what I said,
I wanted the ban for realising on a staff member to be 3 months
I wanted the ban for realising on a regular member to be 3 months

As in the exact same punishment for both. As you stated.

 

[RoomScape]

I may have made a mistake in what I said,
I wanted the ban for realising on a staff member to be 3 months
I wanted the ban for realising on a regular member to be 3 months

As in the exact same punishment for both. As you stated.

Why bring it down to three months from six?

 

Should make disclosing scammers information not against the rules though Others should be perm ban

 

[RoomScape]

Should make disclosing scammers information not against the rules though Others should be perm ban

Disclosing scammers' info is against the rules? I thought that rule only applied to active members whose accounts are in good standing.

And I think a permanent ban is a bit harsh of a consequence - though a permanent ban on the second offense would seem justifiable.

 

Disclosing scammers' info is against the rules? I thought that rule only applied to active members whose accounts are in good standing.

And I think a permanent ban is a bit harsh of a consequence - though a permanent ban on the second offense would seem justifiable.

Ye, probably isn't looked very serious at though but can still get punished i think

 

[RoomScape]

Ye, probably isn't looked very serious at though but can still get punished i think

Hmm, I guess. Depends on the site's rules. Some sites don't care for banned users. Even if they have a legitimate scam report, the site will just throw it out. Other sites will back up the scammer and still protect them stating that they just don't want anything against the rules - period, whether the person be a banned member or not.

In my opinion, if you're banned then, for the most part, it's on you. I think the only time we should cater to banned users is if they're filing a scam report or something.

 

[EditMyThread]

I agree about making the punishment the same for both staff members and regular users. There shouldn't be a difference. As for friends of the staff members, that's just stupid.

 

[RoomScape]

I agree about making the punishment the same for both staff members and regular users. There shouldn't be a difference. As for friends of the staff members, that's just stupid.

lol, I think so, too! This has been a rule for - presumably - a while now.