Define the word 'private' in the rules

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  1. Unread #1 - Apr 23, 2017 at 8:37 AM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    Hello Sythe users,

    Due to the recent Skype update, I feel that the word 'Private' should be described more accurately within the rules.

    The reason I say this is due to the new Skype update, you can now find people by mutual contacts. I have shown an example here with [Staff add Strikethrough here]Wortel's[Add strikethrough here] Mootrucks' Skype as it can be found within his thread here:
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    So what this effectively means is that I can type anyone's display name in the Skype searcher and I can find the correct user almost instantaneously, here's what I mean:
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    This makes the word 'Private' a bit of a grey area now because now anyone who has posted chatlogs on Sythe with a member of staff can proceed to search up and find Skype names based on display names. The Skype name may not have to be public on Sythe but as long as some form of information relating to the display name is available, Skype names will AUTOMATICALLY be displayed within the Skype directory based on mutual contacts.

    I did indeed receive a one month ban for leaking Video's Private Skype as this feature was unavailable when my ban was issued however I do feel that there should be a reword within the rules to something like:

    • Disclosure of Others' Personal Information: Posting and/or information such as private emails/MSNs, private Skype accounts, Facebook accounts, addresses, phone numbers, private photos, etc. of someone other than yourself without explicit consent of that person will result in up to a 1 month ban regardless of whether or not the information is publicly available.
    I also feel that the word providing should be added to this rule as this only seems to apply to the Sythe forum. My ban was issued based on me sending a vCard out on Skype. It effectively allows people to disclose personal information over social media platforms as they are separated from Sythe.

    The next rule:

    Disclosure of Personal Information of a Staff Member or Acquaintance of a Staff Member: This includes, but is not limited to, full names, unlisted emails, Unlisted Skype/Facebook, unlisted addresses, unlisted phone numbers, unlisted photos or additional information which cannot be found on Sythe.
    • There will be a 6 month Spam Forum ban on top of this
    • A second offence from the same user will result in a permanent ban
    • This rule does not apply to information/photos that the staff have posted publicly on Sythe about themselves (or reposting of the same provided the original thread still exists)
    • For the sake of clarity, an acquaintance of a staff member is a family member or close friend who is only associated with Sythe through a staff member, if at all

    I feel this rule should either be reworded or removed. If it is reworded I think the word unlisted should be added to show that if the information is not listed on Sythe then it cannot be posted.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Apr 23, 2017 at 9:45 AM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    I think the rules are fine the way they are in regards to privacy.

    I also checked out Miamsic and it does not look to have an active community at all.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Apr 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    If information can be found publicly via a skype display name then it is not private.
    Secondly its spelt Miasmic and also I'm looking for Skype Mass Messages hence why its not active at this time.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:00 PM
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    Look this is even more abuse. Anyone who supports me for who I am and what I do around here just gets permanantly deleted. This is incredibly sad.
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:24 PM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    I don't really see how it could be made more clear. Just stay away from releasing any personal info on someone unless they explicitly give you permission. Even in your OP you clearly state Video's "Private" Skype.

    Don't leak any information on someone unless you know them personally and know they are ok with it. If you don't ask or know the person well, you are putting yourself in a position where a ban may be applicable and the other person has every right to defend themselves if they are potentially at risk.

    No support, tbh.
     
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    private - belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:33 PM
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    Group of people - undefined.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:34 PM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    You still haven't explained what the word 'Private' is.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:35 PM
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    group of people is whoever owns the information wants it to be, and nobody except for said user gets to decide that
     
  23. Unread #12 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM
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    Doesn't say that explicitly in the rules now does it? Group of people currently has no definition AND because the new Skype update, this is now a grey area and needs to be expanded upon.
     
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    no its common sense
     
  27. Unread #14 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:40 PM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    I feel like the current rule already covers this scenario.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:40 PM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    No it's not. Its not quoted anywhere and group of people is now extended due to people being able to find it by searching other individuals based on display name and mutual friends.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:41 PM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    Always a fan of reducing/abolishing personal information rules or limiting their scope.

    Support.
     
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    I felt that it did originally but now people can find Skype accounts due to mutual friends. Try looking up someone based on their display name and see if you can find them via mutual friend.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:42 PM
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    Thank you very much. Appreciate your kind words.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Apr 23, 2017 at 7:57 PM
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    Define the word 'private' in the rules

    I mean we wrote this rule after someone "leaked" public information obtained from a domain registration. The rule even says private Skype accounts are included and I think it's pretty clear if it isn't posted publicly on Sythe somewhere it is considered private.
     
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  39. Unread #20 - Apr 23, 2017 at 8:00 PM
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    Yeah but if its not really listed on Sythe then it's not exactly private then is it. It's just unlisted like I said. Skype's can now be found publicly via mutual friends on the Skype directory.
     
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