Shin's Feedback Thread

[nodnarbusn]

Shitty attitude. Personally spammed my inbox asking for miniranks
Shady BS involving dicing payouts (like blatantly losing and not paying put until TOLD too).

http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1729791-unb4nn3d-bleuskittle-dice-dispute.html
http://www.sythe.org/spam-forum/1730337-unb4nn3d-scammer.html

I am none too impressed. Step it up, namely by staying clear of drama , paying your debts and not acting like a pompous dick.

 

Shitty attitude.

Work on this. It's definitely the reason for situations that involve you being escalated more than it should.

 

[Shin]

Shitty attitude. Personally spammed my inbox asking for miniranks
Shady BS involving dicing payouts (like blatantly losing and not paying put until TOLD too).

I've never messaged you on Sythe (from my knowledge), and I was never told to pay out as no Globals/Admins wished to provide a final ruling. However, given the fact I failed to outline the possibility of a double tie and feedback received from other users, I decided to pay it out as it's only 2M 07.

I am none too impressed. Step it up, namely by staying clear of drama , paying your debts and not acting like a pompous dick.

It's interesting you say that, as you're trying to bring spam forum drama to this thread where it's not needed.

Work on this. It's definitely the reason for situations that involve you being escalated more than it should.

I will do my best. There was no reason for this situation to be escalated in the first place.

As I said elsewhere, this situation could have been easily handled in PM's.

 

[Tyler]

I've never messaged you on Sythe (from my knowledge), and I was never told to pay out as no Globals/Admins wished to provide a final ruling. However, given the fact I failed to outline the possibility of a double tie and feedback received from other users, I decided to pay it out as it's only 2M 07.

You paid out because (and I quote)

Lost all my other miniranks so I'll pay the 2M OSRS.

What a joke, I clearly won. and you tried to hold out over 6$

It's interesting you say that, as you're trying to bring spam forum drama to this thread where it's not needed.

This is your feedback thread, dont want feedback? dont create a thread.

This isint "spam forum drama" this is you failing to pay a user back and acting like a baby because you lost 6$ in a dice duel.

I will do my best. There was no reason for this situation to be escalated in the first place.

As I said elsewhere, this situation could have been easily handled in PM's.

No it couldn't have, You were not going to pay out your loss when I clearly won, and you tried to swing it your way and give you another possibility to win.

I created a thread asking for other moderators opinions, and apparently that's (and again I quote)

attacking you, and blowing things out of proportion

N4N0 was attacked, Trin was attacked, Hell even Finn was attacked. I made a thread asking for moderators opinions on this as I was obviously going to get nowhere with you trying to extort me over 2M OSRS

 

[YoHoJo]

http://www.sythe.org/runescape-chea...nt-start-scamming-07-rs3-money-swap-clan.html

What is this shit, lol.

Locked.

lol'd,
Unb4nn3d 4 Admin

 

[Shin]

You paid out because (and I quote)

What a joke, I clearly won. and you tried to hold out over 6$

That's not the only reason I paid out, and you're continuing to make a big deal out of nothing. The situation was handled. I don't know why you still continue to follow me around everywhere and harass me. It's not allowed.

This is your feedback thread, dont want feedback? dont create a thread.

This isint "spam forum drama" this is you failing to pay a user back and acting like a baby because you lost 6$ in a dice duel.

Calling someone a pompous dick isn't feedback. It's harassment.

I didn't fail to pay a user back. No decision was made until I made one of my own. Nothing was ever taken. Nothing was ever stolen. The 2M OSRS was paid.

No it couldn't have, You were not going to pay out your loss when I clearly won, and you tried to swing it your way and give you another possibility to win.

If you had simply disagreed with the options I had offered, I would have paid the 2M OSRS right away. Instead, you made a thread while I was asleep, which required me to defend my explanation as you were forcing the Staff to make the verdict.

I created a thread asking for other moderators opinions, and apparently that's (and again I quote)

Your words, not mine.

N4N0 was attacked, Trin was attacked, Hell even Finn was attacked. I made a thread asking for moderators opinions on this as I was obviously going to get nowhere with you trying to extort me over 2M OSRS

I'm going to assume you don't know the definition of "extort".

If you want to continue wasting your time regarding this, you can do it in the spam forum.

You already requested the thread to be locked as it was "turning into a flamefest".
http://www.sythe.org/13662063-post2.html

Doesn't appear you have an issue harassing me elsewhere, and it is deliberate flaming / slander at this point given your lock request.

http://www.sythe.org/runescape-chea...nt-start-scamming-07-rs3-money-swap-clan.html

lol'd,
Unb4nn3d 4 Admin

Lol. That was an interesting thread to run in to.

 

[Tyler]

That's not the only reason I paid out, and you're continuing to make a big deal out of nothing. The situation was handled. I don't know why you still continue to follow me around everywhere and harass me. It's not allowed.

The situation was "handled" after I made a report in RASC because you didn't accept that you had lost. You saw other moderator's say its common sense that I should be paid out aswell as the lashback from the community because you made a horrible judgement call.

This is your feedback thread, I'm not "following you around and harrassing you" I'm giving you feedback on your position as moderator and your lack of accountability.

Calling someone a pompous dick isn't feedback. It's harassment.

just ignore everything else he said then?

If you had simply disagreed with the options I had offered, I would have paid the 2M OSRS right away. Instead, you made a thread while I was asleep, which required me to defend my explanation as you were forcing the Staff to make the verdict.

I wasn't forcing anybody to make a verdict, as I told you, I was asking for other moderator opinions as we obviously didn't agree on what should happen.

Your words, not mine.

My words?

If you want to continue wasting your time regarding this, you can do it in the spam forum. Doesn't appear you have an issue harassing me elsewhere, and it is deliberate flaming / slander at this point given your lock request.

You add logs to the fire, and then wonder why it burns all night?
I didn't create the thread and after the first two posts between us I didn't like where it put you in the community's eyes. So I requested it to be removed, if you keep replying and trying to defend your "side" of the story, Then I'll keep replying. You should be held accountable for your shitty actions as moderator and a member of sythe.



If at any point you had said "Hey I realized I made a mistake not paying out when you clearly won" I'd drop the issue. But just like a kid with his hand caught in the cookie jar you just keep making excuses.



But hey, dont take my word for it.

Don't gamble if you can't accept the results.

Individual rolls match up 30-30 40-40 50-50

This isn't an amazingly difficult, you're just making it so because you lost.

2/3 wins must be obtained assuming there is either no ties or 1 tie along with 2 wins. 2 ties, then you go to the decision of a third unless there was 1 tie and the score was 1-1, that's called a tie breaker. Except here the tie breaker is the third roll. I have never heard anywhere where 2 ties and a win does not mean a clear victory for the one that scored the win, that they'd have 2 play 2 matches to determine the true winner.

Sounds like you weren't even sure yourself that such tie was even a re roll.

What? If it was highest of 3 rolls and you won 1/3 and he won 0/3 he owes you money? I'm not entirely sure what's up for discussion here.

I agree with this aswell. Blueskittle won. Never heard of ties being the majority. The third 'tie-breaker' was won by blueskittle. It's really not a complicated issue.

http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1729791-unb4nn3d-bleuskittle-dice-dispute.html lol xD i think it is shameful yet highly amusing that he tried so hard to scam bleuskittle for only 2M OSGP, recent promotions really are scraping the bottom of the barrel haha

He actually did make it in his favor, or at least tried to

If he was to win the third roll, would there be another reroll? In the report, he made it clear of what he 'thought' the rules were after he lost

This is suspicious

That is so sketchy, he tried to slant it in his favour without anyone noticing. Unfortunately for him the way he did it was retarded enough that nobody could even consider the possibility that he was right lolol

The way you handled the situation sure does, and from what i've been reading it couldn't be handled in a more childish way.

 

[S]

Can you guys go argue via PM.

It's not really feedback anymore, when you're quoting spam forum comments. Sure, it could have been handled better. We know that now, and it's over. Move on, hopefully in the future nothing of the sort arises.

 

[nodnarbusn]

Calling someone a pompous dick isn't feedback. It's harassment

First off I didnt call you anything I said you are acting like one. And you ARE. Dont attempt to twist my words, you're no good at it.

Step it up, namely by staying clear of drama , paying your debts and not acting like a pompous dick.

Second that is plain as day feedback.

Heres some more! Dont handle disputes against you directly, no matter what (even IF you were right) you look like a douche. Locking them is even worse, I mean seriously? Your excuse of preventing future spam and trolling was laughable at best. If you would have been mature and let another moderator handle it in the first place that "spam and trolling" would have easily been avoided.

Also you DID PM me asking for my fry minirank or to dice duel for it (lmao!). Pay attention to who you are messaging and dont HARRASS (see what I did there) strangers at random for miniranks.

 

[Shin]

First off I didnt call you anything I said you are acting like one. And you ARE. Dont attempt to twist my words, you're no good at it.

Second that is plain as day feedback.

Trolling belongs in the spam forum.

Heres some more! Dont handle disputes against you directly, no matter what (even IF you were right) you look like a douche. Locking them is even worse, I mean seriously? Your excuse of preventing future spam and trolling was laughable at best. If you would have been mature and let another moderator handle it in the first place that "spam and trolling" would have easily been avoided.

Also you DID PM me asking for my fry minirank or to dice duel for it (lmao!). Pay attention to who you are messaging and dont HARRASS (see what I did there) strangers at random for miniranks.

Please refer to:

Can you guys go argue via PM.

It's not really feedback anymore, when you're quoting spam forum comments. Sure, it could have been handled better. We know that now, and it's over. Move on, hopefully in the future nothing of the sort arises.

 

[nodnarbusn]

Trolling belongs in the spam forum.

Please refer to:

I wasnt trolling and have no desire to speak with you via PM. Dismiss feedback all you want, all it does is display your lack of maturity.

I've said my piece.

 

[Shin]

I wasnt trolling and have no desire to speak with you via PM. Dismiss feedback all you want, all it does is display your lack of maturity.

I've said my piece.

Responded to all previous comments via PM.

 

[Katara]

/inb4thisisnofeedback

I'm actually quite surprised that Unb4nn3d still acts like an ignorant child. A few years back I was Global mod/admin on Rsbot/Powerbot and had a few discussions with Unb4nn3d about his attitude. Still the same…

Sorry, but I'm really sure Sythe can get better mods.

 

/inb4thisisnofeedback

I'm actually quite surprised that Unb4nn3d still acts like an ignorant child. A few years back I was Global mod/admin on Rsbot/Powerbot and had a few discussions with Unb4nn3d about his attitude. Still the same…

Sorry, but I'm really sure Sythe can get better mods.

This.

He's literally the worst kind of person to be a moderator.

 

[Majora]

Responded to all previous comments via PM.

Looks like my feedback was dismissed and ignored as well. Doesn't bother me - just throwing it out there >_>

 

[Shin]

/inb4thisisnofeedback

I'm actually quite surprised that Unb4nn3d still acts like an ignorant child. A few years back I was Global mod/admin on Rsbot/Powerbot and had a few discussions with Unb4nn3d about his attitude. Still the same…

Sorry, but I'm really sure Sythe can get better mods.

If it was a few years back, then you certainly weren't speaking to me. Since I resigned from Admin, I've only logged on the site one time to respond to a friend. Other than that, I haven't knowingly spoken to anyone from Powerbot.

This.

He's literally the worst kind of person to be a moderator.

Can you provide feedback on what I'm doing wrong as a moderator?

Looks like my feedback was dismissed and ignored as well. Doesn't bother me - just throwing it out there >_>

I'm sorry. I was busy PM'ing RocketPower back and forth at the time. After I answered all his queries, he said he was going to go post on my feedback thread because he didn't like my decision. I didn't see your post, and I apologize if you feel ignored. It was an honest mistake.

I'm a little confused with your response to one of my reports earlier this week.

you responded saying this:
http://gyazo.com/47837eebc116b195fa5c710bb00b215a

Im not sure what's fueling your assumption. I just got pardoned over 1 month ago, I'm not sure how I possibly could have known about what happened or why. Also if you're not sure why they posts were removed, why would that deem it unnecessary to reverse? I feel like it should be the opposite (If there was a good reason for them to be removed, then they should stay removed).

The posts made on that topic were far from spam. The goods that were being sold were an acquired taste and were fairly expensive for the average user. I had a moderator at the time (rsprod) verify the quality of goods as well. None of the posts on the thread went against bumping or spam infractions, and I just can't see why they were mass deleted. It could have been that I was banned and it was a fairly large thread that seemed like it may never be used again, but it resulted in me losing around 500 posts.

"The posts made on that topic were far from spam."

They were removed on the basis of being spam. I've looked through the posts myself, and almost every one deleted doesn't belong on the thread. I said you most likely knew the reason for their deletion, and you do. Lol. >_<

I wasn't very appreciative of your unguided response because I felt like you just typed something in an effort to close off the report rather than look into it to enough detail.

It's okay now though, another staff member is looking into it for me I just wanted to reflect on how I felt with regards to how you handled that.

I looked into the report and saw the majority of posts on the thread that were deleted were spam. As you were the creator of the thread and with the amount of posts that were deleted, I was fairly certain you would know the reason for deletion.

 

[Majora]

They were removed on the basis of being spam. I've looked through the posts myself, and almost every one deleted doesn't belong on the thread. I said you most likely knew the reason for their deletion, and you do. Lol. >_<

Bumping shops or sales threads every 8 hours is against the rules? The removed posts of mine were reversed already anyways. There are other users who have 1k+ bumps in their shops, I don't see those being removed for being spam, while mine were.

I understand that you didn't delete the posts, but the standpoint that you took was based on assumption, and matters that you didn't take into your own hands (which you should do if you're "handling" a report). I'm only posting here because I wanted to provide you feedback. If you don't feel like you're able to provide a reasonable resolution, don't excuse the report just for the purpose of "handling" it. You've contradicted bumping/spam rules by telling me that those posts were spam, while you should be standing behind the rules and reinforcing them instead.

I don't have anything personal against you at all and I'm not posting here to attack you or how you do your job as a moderator. Everyone is different and they look at things from different perspectives. I know you've got some other things on your plate that are far more important, and you're an experienced staff member. Just keep doing your thing, I'm just here providing feedback not trying to stir the pot or start arguments.

 

[Shin]

Bumping shops or sales threads every 8 hours is against the rules? The removed posts of mine were reversed already anyways. There are other users who have 1k+ bumps in their shops, I don't see those being removed for being spam, while mine were.

Some posts were bumps. Some posts were spam. Some posts were deliberate lowball offers. All of the posts deleted seemed completely unnecessary. As for the bumps you made on the thread, those were left untouched.

I understand that you didn't delete the posts, but the standpoint that you took was based on assumption, and matters that you didn't take into your own hands (which you should do if you're "handling" a report).

I understand what you're trying to say and you're right, but you said they were removed for spam. I don't think you're aware of why they were removed as spam posts, however.

I'm only posting here because I wanted to provide you feedback. If you don't feel like you're able to provide a reasonable resolution, don't excuse the report just for the purpose of "handling" it. You've contradicted bumping/spam rules by telling me that those posts were spam, while you should be standing behind the rules and reinforcing them instead.

I don't understand how I contradicted the rules by saying they were spam. I'm standing behind the rules and the reasoning behind the posts being deleted.

I don't have anything personal against you at all and I'm not posting here to attack you or how you do your job as a moderator. Everyone is different and they look at things from different perspectives. I know you've got some other things on your plate that are far more important, and you're an experienced staff member. Just keep doing your thing, I'm just here providing feedback not trying to stir the pot or start arguments.

I understand your position and thank you for that. I'm just curious whether you're actually aware of the posts that were deleted (content within).

People posting "get 99 mage then we'll talk", "pm me the name", and "1m starting bid" are just a few examples of posts that were deleted from the thread.

 

[Majora]

Some posts were bumps. Some posts were spam. Some posts were deliberate lowball offers. All of the posts deleted seemed completely unnecessary. As for the bumps you made on the thread, those were left untouched.

I understand what you're trying to say and you're right, but you said they were removed for spam. I don't think you're aware of why they were removed as spam posts, however.

I don't understand how I contradicted the rules by saying they were spam. I'm standing behind the rules and the reasoning behind the posts being deleted.

I understand your position and thank you for that. I'm just curious whether you're actually aware of the posts that were deleted (content within).

People posting "get 99 mage then we'll talk", "pm me the name", and "1m starting bid" are just a few examples of posts that were deleted from the thread.

You're right there was quite a bit of spam. Most of that stuff was out of my hands, especially the questions (Alot of them I didn't even answer). Roary and I sifted through the entire thing and there were 300+ posts of mine that didn't go against any posting rules at all. It was just a matter of tediously sifting through and removing the ones that didn't belong. From a first impression there was a huge amount of spam, when that thread kicked off it got a lot of low ball offers, you're not making any of that up at all.

I also wanted to add: When i seen that the contents of all posts were removed, I actually was very surprised. I wasn't infracted for any spamming or notified about it either, so it puzzled me and I just wanted to ask.

 

You were very helpful during my pardon process, and I appreciate that. Keep up the good work!