Question and rant about donation holders

[RSGoldstop]

This.




Also dont generalize all of us under one category because you had issues with one or two bond holders; thats just sad.

okay, accept his 5$ donation and i'll cover it if he chargebacks. like i said my bond isn't working..

 

[Tyler]

$5 is $5, its a free $2 for you idiots anyway.


Jesus, Matthew Needs to hire new bond holders, I BARLEY managed to donate another $25 through moes and He gave 0 fucks about whether I got to donate or not.


This is actually an issue Matthew needs to step in on and get some new bond holders tbh.

What issue?
If your having trouble with moes There is more than one of us you know

okay, accept his 5$ donation and i'll cover it if he chargebacks. like i said my bond isn't working..

Im out of the house right now guys I'd love to help you when I get back. What was the issue with not being able to send bogdan pp directly from yours?

 

okay, accept his 5$ donation and i'll cover it if he chargebacks. like i said my bond isn't working..

I just took direct pp from him, if he charges back youl be responsible.
ps: His pp is unverified.

This thread can be closed.

 

[ImComingForThatNum1]

I was just told by a donation collecting nazi T1NO that my amazon $25 cash donation to the site would only give me a $10 donation on the books. He charged a 60% fee. After doing some research this wrong. A flat fee for all bond holders should be given by the company receiving the donation to assure its members where the money is going. Also if I give $25, I gave $25 period. I don't give a f*ck who picked your pockets after. On my tax return I gave $25 if your tax return has $10 there will be a much bigger issue at hand like IRS.
Now for a little buisness lesson.

Commercial Co-Ventures and Cause Related Marketing

If your nonprofit makes an arrangement with a business to receive a percentage of sales – or if a business offers that deal to your nonprofit – beware. In at least 22 states that’s a regulated activity that may require a special registration filing. This activity is sometimes referred to as "charitable sales promotion" and sometimes as a "commercial co-venture."

There is nothing wrong with crafting an arrangement with a for-profit business for a nonprofit to receive a percentage of sales. However, it would be naïve to ignore the fact that for-profit businesses can benefit when consumers are motivated to purchase goods or services by the thought that they are making a donation to a charitable nonprofit. Studies show that consumers are motivated to make purchases if they believe that a percentage of sales will go to a “good cause,” hence the name, “Cause-related marketing.” Consequently, state regulators have an interest in protecting charitable nonprofits from being taken advantage of, and protecting consumer’s expectations about where the money will end up.

The law surrounding charitable sales promotions/cause-related marketing and “commercial co-ventures” is evolving.

"A commercial co-venturer is any person or firm who for profit regularly conducts a charitable sales promotion or underwrites, arranges or sponsors a sale, performance or event of any kind which is advertised to benefit a charitable organization. Commercial co-ventures have become a popular way for consumer products and services companies to support charitable causes while generating commercial goodwill."

– Copilevitz & Canter

Be aware that cause-related marketing is a regulated activity in several states. Typically the state laws require nonprofits to file a copy of the contract governing the arrangement before any sales take place. Because state laws vary, your nonprofit will want to be familiar with the laws governing charitable solicitation registration in general, and specifically those regulating commercial co-ventures and/or cause related marketing. Failure to register can lead to fines and in some states even criminal penalties. Bottom line: know your state's law and document the arrangements with the for-profit so that there is accountability for the sales promotions.

The last paragraph is very important because this goes for the bond holder as well. I know several bond holders are operating in the USA and may very well be breaking the state and federal law of non profit donations. I will be looking into this and forwarding to appropriate channels I.E. the BBB, state congress and international business affairs. I agree the bond holder should make something for his time but 60%? He is taking more then the charity itself. But only giving me $10 on the books shows me a theft might not be known yet.

 

[Heads447]

I was just told by a donation collecting nazi T1NO that my amazon $25 cash donation to the site would only give me a $10 donation on the books. He charged a 60% fee. After doing some research this wrong. A flat fee for all bond holders should be given by the company receiving the donation to assure its members where the money is going. Also if I give $25, I gave $25 period. I don't give a f*ck who picked your pockets after. On my tax return I gave $25 if your tax return has $10 there will be a much bigger issue at hand like IRS.
Now for a little buisness lesson.

Commercial Co-Ventures and Cause Related Marketing

If your nonprofit makes an arrangement with a business to receive a percentage of sales – or if a business offers that deal to your nonprofit – beware. In at least 22 states that’s a regulated activity that may require a special registration filing. This activity is sometimes referred to as "charitable sales promotion" and sometimes as a "commercial co-venture."

There is nothing wrong with crafting an arrangement with a for-profit business for a nonprofit to receive a percentage of sales. However, it would be naïve to ignore the fact that for-profit businesses can benefit when consumers are motivated to purchase goods or services by the thought that they are making a donation to a charitable nonprofit. Studies show that consumers are motivated to make purchases if they believe that a percentage of sales will go to a “good cause,” hence the name, “Cause-related marketing.” Consequently, state regulators have an interest in protecting charitable nonprofits from being taken advantage of, and protecting consumer’s expectations about where the money will end up.

The law surrounding charitable sales promotions/cause-related marketing and “commercial co-ventures” is evolving.

"A commercial co-venturer is any person or firm who for profit regularly conducts a charitable sales promotion or underwrites, arranges or sponsors a sale, performance or event of any kind which is advertised to benefit a charitable organization. Commercial co-ventures have become a popular way for consumer products and services companies to support charitable causes while generating commercial goodwill."

– Copilevitz & Canter

Be aware that cause-related marketing is a regulated activity in several states. Typically the state laws require nonprofits to file a copy of the contract governing the arrangement before any sales take place. Because state laws vary, your nonprofit will want to be familiar with the laws governing charitable solicitation registration in general, and specifically those regulating commercial co-ventures and/or cause related marketing. Failure to register can lead to fines and in some states even criminal penalties. Bottom line: know your state's law and document the arrangements with the for-profit so that there is accountability for the sales promotions.

The last paragraph is very important because this goes for the bond holder as well. I know several bond holders are operating in the USA and may very well be breaking the state and federal law of non profit donations. I will be looking into this and forwarding to appropriate channels I.E. the BBB, state congress and international business affairs. I agree the bond holder should make something for his time but 60%? He is taking more then the charity itself. But only giving me $10 on the books shows me a theft might not be known yet.

Bro... You realize you're getting all worked up over $20 right? Just use someone else instead /problemsolved

Edit:

Now's a great time to donate to sythe.org

 

[JSand]

I was just told by a donation collecting nazi T1NO that my amazon $25 cash donation to the site would only give me a $10 donation on the books. He charged a 60% fee. After doing some research this wrong. A flat fee for all bond holders should be given by the company receiving the donation to assure its members where the money is going. Also if I give $25, I gave $25 period. I don't give a f*ck who picked your pockets after. On my tax return I gave $25 if your tax return has $10 there will be a much bigger issue at hand like IRS.
Now for a little buisness lesson.

The last paragraph is very important because this goes for the bond holder as well. I know several bond holders are operating in the USA and may very well be breaking the state and federal law of non profit donations. I will be looking into this and forwarding to appropriate channels I.E. the BBB, state congress and international business affairs. I agree the bond holder should make something for his time but 60%? He is taking more then the charity itself. But only giving me $10 on the books shows me a theft might not be known yet.

I was with you until that final paragraph. Charging a 60% fee for an amazon gift card donation? What are you smoking @T1N0 ?

 

[malakadang]

@ImComingForThatNum1 As far as I know, Sythe is NOT a not-for-profit organisation. Accordingly, knowledge of the laws and regulations you adverted to are not required.

I'm locking this thread because it was an old gravedig. If anyone has any input regarding the donation system, feel free to open a new thread.

 

[video]

I was with you until that final paragraph. Charging a 60% fee for an amazon gift card donation? What are you smoking @T1N0 ?

Because it's an amazon gift card, not cash lol. I don't charge a fee to donate and that still seems like a pretty fair valuation to me. I'm surprised he was able to donate using an amazon gift card through anyone at all

 

[video]

I was just told by a donation collecting nazi T1NO that my amazon $25 cash donation to the site would only give me a $10 donation on the books. He charged a 60% fee. After doing some research this wrong. A flat fee for all bond holders should be given by the company receiving the donation to assure its members where the money is going. Also if I give $25, I gave $25 period. I don't give a f*ck who picked your pockets after. On my tax return I gave $25 if your tax return has $10 there will be a much bigger issue at hand like IRS.
Now for a little buisness lesson.

Commercial Co-Ventures and Cause Related Marketing

If your nonprofit makes an arrangement with a business to receive a percentage of sales – or if a business offers that deal to your nonprofit – beware. In at least 22 states that’s a regulated activity that may require a special registration filing. This activity is sometimes referred to as "charitable sales promotion" and sometimes as a "commercial co-venture."

There is nothing wrong with crafting an arrangement with a for-profit business for a nonprofit to receive a percentage of sales. However, it would be naïve to ignore the fact that for-profit businesses can benefit when consumers are motivated to purchase goods or services by the thought that they are making a donation to a charitable nonprofit. Studies show that consumers are motivated to make purchases if they believe that a percentage of sales will go to a “good cause,” hence the name, “Cause-related marketing.” Consequently, state regulators have an interest in protecting charitable nonprofits from being taken advantage of, and protecting consumer’s expectations about where the money will end up.

The law surrounding charitable sales promotions/cause-related marketing and “commercial co-ventures” is evolving.

"A commercial co-venturer is any person or firm who for profit regularly conducts a charitable sales promotion or underwrites, arranges or sponsors a sale, performance or event of any kind which is advertised to benefit a charitable organization. Commercial co-ventures have become a popular way for consumer products and services companies to support charitable causes while generating commercial goodwill."

– Copilevitz & Canter

Be aware that cause-related marketing is a regulated activity in several states. Typically the state laws require nonprofits to file a copy of the contract governing the arrangement before any sales take place. Because state laws vary, your nonprofit will want to be familiar with the laws governing charitable solicitation registration in general, and specifically those regulating commercial co-ventures and/or cause related marketing. Failure to register can lead to fines and in some states even criminal penalties. Bottom line: know your state's law and document the arrangements with the for-profit so that there is accountability for the sales promotions.

The last paragraph is very important because this goes for the bond holder as well. I know several bond holders are operating in the USA and may very well be breaking the state and federal law of non profit donations. I will be looking into this and forwarding to appropriate channels I.E. the BBB, state congress and international business affairs. I agree the bond holder should make something for his time but 60%? He is taking more then the charity itself. But only giving me $10 on the books shows me a theft might not be known yet.

Your entire argument is thrown out because you were donating with a gift card which has NO CASH VALUE! T1n0 should have offered you a $0 donation by your reasoning lol