Paris Attacks

[nodnarbusn]

Anyone else curious as to how two of the suicide bombers were found with intact passports on them? How the hell do you literally blow yourself (AND OTHERS) up and leave an intact passport not only once but TWO times??

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-33...assport-body-suicide-bomber-Stade-France.html

Keep in mind this was announced live before anyone took credit. I'm not claiming conspiracy or anything as it seems pretty cut and dry for the most part, but this little detail struck me as od

 

Anyone else curious as to how two of the suicide bombers were found with intact passports on them? How the hell do you literally blow yourself (AND OTHERS) up and leave an intact passport not only once but TWO times??

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-33...assport-body-suicide-bomber-Stade-France.html

Keep in mind this was announced live befoe anyone took credit. I'm not claiming conspiracy or anything as it seems pretty cut and dry for the most part, but this little detail struck me as od

You don't, if you ask me someone planted it, to let the Syrian refugees look bad.

 

...Yes? People always migrate to where there are more resources (work, gov't benefits, etc). Also, they all follow a doctrine of violence and hate called Islam, and it's absolutely fucking retarded that people are now feeding and housing the Islamic armies that are flooding into their countries and now massacring infidels like Allah commanded them to.

I'd like to see your source. Where does it say in the Quran to massacre innocent people? Yes it says non believers will be punished, and they will be punished by God (in after-life) but it doesn't say anywhere to go and kill all non believers.

These terrorists are sick in their minds, brainwashed.

 

[nodnarbusn]

You don't, if you ask me someone planted it, to let the Syrian refugees look bad.

Well at this point its seems undeniable that the attack was at the very least in part carried out by Syrian "refugees" (refugees in quotes because these weren't true refugees, but snakes in the grass sneaking in) but given the fact that the passports (ones Egyptian oddly enough) were found before anyone took credit implies to me they were going to be blamed and or potentially framed as a scapegoat from the get go.

I don't believe anyone who is about to carry out terrorist attacks especially orchestrated to that level would make it easy on those investigating by carrying ID. I mean we would leave our ID's at home when we'd try and buy beer underage or sneak into clubs years ago, surely internationally organized terror cells have the same notion.

This just popped up: www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/...ris-attack-scene-must-be-treated-with-caution

 

Well at this point its seems undeniable that the attack was at the very least in part carried out by Syrian "refugees" (refugees in quotes because these weren't true refugees, but snakes in the grass sneaking in) but given the fact that the passports (ones Egyptian oddly enough) were found before anyone took credit implies to me they were going to be blamed and or potentially framed as a scapegoat from the get go.

I don't believe anyone who is about to carry out terrorist attacks especially orchestrated to that level would make it easy on those investigating by carrying ID. I mean we would leave our ID's at home when we'd try and buy beer underage or sneak into clubs years ago, surely internationally organized terror cells have the same notion.

This just popped up: www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/...ris-attack-scene-must-be-treated-with-caution

Completely agree with you on ^

 

[malakadang]

It's really quite sad, but if you think about it, not all that surprising. When you have a known terrorist organisation who wants to blow stuff up, and loose checks on migrants fleeing wherever, it doesn't take a genius to work out that someone will probably pretend to be a migrant to enter x country and blow stuff up. If Europe continues with its large intake of migrants without strengthening its checks, politics and morality aside, the consequence will be that what happened in Paris will happen again in the EU for the very same reasons.

I wonder when we can have a proper conversation without regard for the absurd political correctness in our modern society. For fear of being labeled racist, for fear of being 'discriminatory', and for fear of being labelled ignorant, the discourse is crowded with intellectual buffoons aimed at allaying offence as opposed to ensuring the continuation of our way of life. This is the natural consequence, when you have idiots pick up a few tools in philosophy and politics, saying that the migrants have rights, and it is racist to deny them entry, and emotional appeals, etc etc. , and etc etc. These are all good arguments to make however they have their consequences, and you have to own the consequences flowing from the application of your beliefs. No one wants to own them, just react to them; too late then.

 

[Hamouze]

It's really quite sad, but if you think about it, not all that surprising. When you have a known terrorist organisation who wants to blow stuff up, and loose checks on migrants fleeing wherever, it doesn't take a genius to work out that someone will probably pretend to be a migrant to enter x country and blow stuff up. If Europe continues with its large intake of migrants without strengthening its checks, politics and morality aside, the consequence will be that what happened in Paris will happen again in the EU for the very same reasons.

I wonder when we can have a proper conversation without regard for the absurd political correctness in our modern society. For fear of being labeled racist, for fear of being 'discriminatory', and for fear of being labelled ignorant, the discourse is crowded with intellectual buffoons aimed at allaying offence as opposed to ensuring the continuation of our way of life. This is the natural consequence, when you have idiots pick up a few tools in philosophy and politics, saying that the migrants have rights, and it is racist to deny them entry, and emotional appeals, etc etc. , and etc etc. These are all good arguments to make however they have their consequences, and you have to own the consequences flowing from the application of your beliefs. No one wants to own them, just react to them; too late then.

The shooters were Paris natives.

 

[malakadang]

The shooters were Paris natives.

As far as I'm aware, only one was confirmed a French national, with the identities of the rest unconfirmed thus far.

 

[nodnarbusn]

The shooters were Paris natives.

One native, three Belgians. That's just the shooters too, there's what 6-7 more known people involved? CNN states outright "at least one arrived with the Syrian immigrants".

www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/world/paris-attacks/index.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...s-attack-what-we-know-about-the-suspects.html

 

All religion is a doctrine of hate but that's another story.

Yeah, care to explain how you came up with that one?

 

I can't understand how some people can be so brainwashed that they think they will accomplish something with such massacres. Horrible.

 

[uJesternWind]

http://news.sky.com/story/1588256/france-drops-20-bombs-on-is-stronghold-raqqa
As horrendous as the attacks are, unless these french bombings were preplanned I'm not sure emotion-induced retaliation is the best way to go about solving the issue at hand.

 

[StockingUpGold]

This is honestly disgusting

 

[Scar]

my condolenses to the people of the world

 

[Swaze]

Really fucked up. My prayers to the people who were affected and harmed by the incident.

 

[DeathByBunny]

ISIS need to die. If only these people had the right to bare arms. I want to see a bunch of terrorists with AK's come and try to shoot up a theater in kansas.

 

Yeah, care to explain how you came up with that one?

What main stream religion teaches tolerance of all individuals regardless or ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation ect? I'm by no means saying all religion is evil.

 

ISIS need to die. If only these people had the right to bare arms. I want to see a bunch of terrorists with AK's come and try to shoot up a theater in kansas.

Right cuz allowing a bunch of drunk people in a concert hall with guns would be a good idea. Fucking idiot.

 

What main stream religion teaches tolerance of all individuals regardless or ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation ect? I'm by no means saying all religion is evil.

Christianity? It's hard to look to biblical teachings like "Love your neighbor as yourself" (Mark 12:31) and conclude otherwise. Sure, Christianity requires some "intolerance" to actually define what sin is; Christians are forbidden from "tolerating" sin by conforming to it, but I don't see how this is intolerance to any meaningful degree. Christianity does not advocate any kind of action against sinners (the Bible commands Christians to not "stand in the way of sinners" Psalm 1:1). How can you not view non-violent co-existence as tolerance? It seems that tolerance is expected to extend to everything except religious teachings - it's somehow okay to be intolerant of something like Biblical Christianity.

Also, how can you say that religion is "doctrine of hate" but at the same time not see it as an evil? I'm just confused by how your first post was worded so matter-of-factly.

 

Christianity? It's hard to look to biblical teachings like "Love your neighbor as yourself" (Mark 12:31) and conclude otherwise. Sure, Christianity requires some "intolerance" to actually define what sin is; Christians are forbidden from "tolerating" sin by conforming to it, but I don't see how this is intolerance to any meaningful degree. Christianity does not advocate any kind of action against sinners (the Bible commands Christians to not "stand in the way of sinners" Psalm 1:1). How can you not view non-violent co-existence as tolerance? It seems that tolerance is expected to extend to everything except religious teachings - it's somehow okay to be intolerant of something like Biblical Christianity.

Also, how can you say that religion is "doctrine of hate" but at the same time not see it as an evil? I'm just confused by how your first post was worded so matter-of-factly.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

One verse about accepting thy neighbor doesn't make up for the slander of homosexuality. Christianity does do a great job with racism for the most part though. I'm not saying it's all bad man just religion isn't the be end of everything and if you look at religion and it's effect on lives around this world from a truly distant perspective it's truly shocking.