Paris Attacks

[Wins]

Shame on you if you are saying No.

France after being attacked is still opening its hands to the innocent. USA says no.

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/18/3723440/france-refugees/


France is a Beast! Good Job French Fry!

Funding and oil money are resources that allow for these attacks, but it is not the motivation.

If they stopped getting funded immediately it doesn't solve the problem because their motivation to kill hasn't changed.

People like you create more anger. Im assuming you love the drama and feed of it like its your daily income?
I hope that you suffer in another way and people look down at you and don't give you the same treatment.

Don't Create! Just End IT with love and respect.

 

[Wins]

 

[Xier0]

France after being attacked is still opening its hands to the innocent. USA says no.

Apparently you have a short memory. The US had casualties 20x greater from an Islamic attack against innocent civilians.

People like you create more anger. Im assuming you love the drama and feed of it like its your daily income?

Ad hom, good job coming out swinging.

I hope that you suffer in another way and people look down at you and don't give you the same treatment.

That's already happening. Nonmuslims are looked down on (9:30) & Muslims are specifically commanded to not to give me the same treatment (5:51, 3:28).

The irony is that you appear to be making arguments to support peace, but you are backing the aggressors.

1950s Soviets had a death toll of 10s of millions of people under socialism. Yet, fear of them is "manufactured"?
2001 Bin Laden (regardless of whether or not he was the one who was most responsible for 9/11) was a career murderer & Islamic militant. Aversion to him and Islamic terrorism isn't "manufactured", it's reasonable.
2015 Islamic caliphate... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Bamako_hotel_attack

Don't dump these atrocities in with weed lmao.

 

[Xier0]

Islamic attacks in Mali earlier today, death toll currently over 25

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Bamako_hotel_attack

 

[Wins]

Islamic attacks in Mali earlier today, death toll currently over 25

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Bamako_hotel_attack

Wikipedia is not a good source bro. Try citing from a known source that can't be edited.

So far mostly everything you say doesn't make sense. You don't provide the website you get it from and basically you could be making shit up. You say an argument your self and then you change it and go against it. Try to stick with one topic and side.


+ don't try to edit your posts because i made sure i screenshot them just incase you find out how stupid you are.

+ You mad bro? Learn2Provide proof. Where is your source all your Quran texts have no links m8. I can edit a verse from the bible after pasting it here .

 

[Xier0]

Wikipedia is not a good source bro. Try citing from a known source that can't be edited.

So far mostly everything you say doesn't make sense. You don't provide the website you get it from and basically you could be making shit up. You say an argument your self and then you change it and go against it. Try to stick with one topic and side.

How does my argument not make sense? First argument: ~3k people died in the Sept 11 attacks vs ~150 in the Paris attacks.

Second argument: You were using ad hominem (attacking the presenter of the argument rather than the argument) when you said

Im assuming you love the drama and feed of it like its your daily income?

Third argument: You say that you hope I am someday discriminated against, but I countered by showing you how I already am currently discriminated against by Muslims, and I gave the quran verse #s that have the info on that.

Fourth argument: That picture you posted does not contain an argument.

Wikipedia is not a good source bro. Try citing from a known source that can't be edited.

Wikipedia has citations. But since you are being intentionally evasive, I'll help you out:

http://nypost.com/2015/11/20/gunmen-attack-mali-hotel-americans-told-to-take-shelter/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/shooting-reported-mali-hotel-article-1.2441291
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ng-hostage-situation-way-radisson-hotel-mali/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mali-hotel-siege-bamako-radisson-6866044
http://armonk.dailyvoice.com/news/3-hostages-dead-in-mali-hotel-attack/605604/

So far mostly everything you say doesn't make sense. You don't provide the website you get it from and basically you could be making shit up. You say an argument your self and then you change it and go against it. Try to stick with one topic and side.


+ don't try to edit your posts because i made sure i screenshot them just incase you find out how stupid you are.

+ You mad bro? Learn2Provide proof. Where is your source all your Quran texts have no links m8. I can edit a verse from the bible after pasting it here .

Oh, I didn't realize you were just trolling. 8/10

 

[Wins]

How does my argument not make sense? First argument: ~3k people died in the Sept 11 attacks vs ~150 in the Paris attacks.

Second argument: You were using ad hominem (attacking the presenter of the argument rather than the argument) when you said

Third argument: You say that you hope I am someday discriminated against, but I countered by showing you how I already am currently discriminated against by Muslims, and I gave the quran verse #s that have the info on that.

Fourth argument: That picture you posted does not contain an argument.



Wikipedia has citations. But since you are being intentionally evasive, I'll help you out:

http://nypost.com/2015/11/20/gunmen-attack-mali-hotel-americans-told-to-take-shelter/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/shooting-reported-mali-hotel-article-1.2441291
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ng-hostage-situation-way-radisson-hotel-mali/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mali-hotel-siege-bamako-radisson-6866044
http://armonk.dailyvoice.com/news/3-hostages-dead-in-mali-hotel-attack/605604/




Oh, I didn't realize you were just trolling. 8/10

ok i meant that i hope you feel the same way that the Innocent Syrian refugees are feeling.Also how the majority of muslims who have no connections with the extremists but still get pushed into the category. Feel their pain in another way. Basically Karma i guess..


The Quran # idc I'm just saying anyone could of written it i trade finding exactly like that but i asked if you can also post the link with it.

About your arguments I'm actually going to let you figure out. IM not taking about the recent ones but the ones you mentioned in the past which i can't find right now don't have the time but if someone can look its fine.You hating back more and adding false shit into the argument for example taking something and twisting it Quran's verse and about Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w). Im honestly done replying to you because you honestly are brainwashed. One day remember what you wrote here and when shit changes i hope you regret and maybe admit yourself into mental hospital.

 

[Xier0]

The Quran # idc I'm just saying anyone could of written it i trade finding exactly like that but i asked if you can also post the link with it.

Sahih International: The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

Link to 7 translations: http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=9&verse=30

Sahih International: O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

Link to 7 translations: http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=51

Sahih International: Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.

Link to 7 translations: http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=3&verse=28

ok i meant that i hope you feel the same way that the Innocent Syrian refugees are feeling.Also how the majority of muslims who have no connections with the extremists but still get pushed into the category. Feel their pain in another way. Basically Karma i guess..

See the verses above. Given that Muslim scripture discourages against helping unbelievers, and encourages conquering them, I would put Muslim migrants on the bottom of the list of people I would be giving aid to, especially when there are so many candidates for charity. I sympathize with any conditions in the middle east and with any truly peaceful victim of the conflicts that is not a fundamental Muslim.

About your arguments I'm actually going to let you figure out. IM not taking about the recent ones but the ones you mentioned in the past which i can't find right now don't have the time but if someone can look its fine.You hating back more and adding false shit into the argument for example taking something and twisting it Quran's verse and about Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w). Im honestly done replying to you because you honestly are brainwashed. One day remember what you wrote here and when shit changes i hope you regret and maybe admit yourself into mental hospital.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

 

There's a lot of back and forth in this thread and it's getting heated. Keep it civil, on topic and don't harass each other. This is not a place for you to push your own agendas either. If this warning is ignored I'll be forced to start issuing infractions.

 

[Puhhh]

Its really sad, in my opinion to keep western Europe more safe they should implement a system of border patrol between the different countries, currently the European countries are like the United States they are able to move freely throughout the countries, so they might be in other parts of Europe now which makes it even scarier. I don't understand what are the points of these attacks.

 

[Frodon]

Prions pour mes freres et soeurs.

 

These attacks should send a message to the American government and people. Lets remove our presence in middle east. They obviously dont want us there and it only creates violence aimed at America. Ive had enough and i want our borders completely closed to non western countries. I know this wont stop terrorism but it can slow its effects on America. We spend trillions every year in the middle east and its a complete fucking waste. Lets fix our country and let the rest of the world handle their own problems. For some stupid reason America thinks we need to fix everyone else's problems. Why not sit back and watch them massacre each other? We cant police the world and, i dont know why keep trying. Nothing good has ever come from our involvement in the middle east. We should of just let Russia steamroll it in the 70's.

 

These attacks should send a message to the American government and people. Lets remove our presence in middle east. They obviously dont want us there and it only creates violence aimed at America. Ive had enough and i want our borders completely closed to non western countries. I know this wont stop terrorism but it can slow its effects on America. We spend trillions every year in the middle east and its a complete fucking waste. Lets fix our country and let the rest of the world handle their own problems. For some stupid reason America thinks we need to fix everyone else's problems. Why not sit back and watch them massacre each other? We cant police the world and, i dont know why keep trying. Nothing good has ever come from our involvement in the middle east. We should of just let Russia steamroll it in the 70's.

Watch this : https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1109286879117550&id=142868065759441&ref=bookmarks
And no it's not some opinion of someone , they are facts in the video.
USA has caused more problems than you think.

 

[Wins]

These attacks should send a message to the American government and people. Lets remove our presence in middle east. They obviously dont want us there and it only creates violence aimed at America. Ive had enough and i want our borders completely closed to non western countries. I know this wont stop terrorism but it can slow its effects on America. We spend trillions every year in the middle east and its a complete fucking waste. Lets fix our country and let the rest of the world handle their own problems. For some stupid reason America thinks we need to fix everyone else's problems. Why not sit back and watch them massacre each other? We cant police the world and, i dont know why keep trying. Nothing good has ever come from our involvement in the middle east. We should of just let Russia steamroll it in the 70's.

I agree with you ! Lets bring our troops back and let the middle east handle its own problem. Yes they don't want us there well the extremists but i don't know about others. Close the borders I'm not sure if that will help maybe for sometime? I love the gas prices though