God does not exist.

I think most people enjoy their life even more once they come to the conclusion that there is no god. Of course if someone came to this realization after being a theist for very long it could put them into a depression, but once that passes they are able to enjoy life for what it's worth and stop taking it for granted.

Do you believe this god has been around forever and always?

 

The answer is because humans can't create stem cels. Humans have only managed to take a cel from a women and a cel from a men and but them together. The result was an incomplete baby (they always have an handicap if not done the natural way). And still human beings have not managed to actually 'create' a human the scientific way due too the lack of most directly 'our intelligence'. So how can all us have been created out of nothing this must have had a creator. And I think this creator is the the higher intelligence known as 'God'.

Isn't that a normal argument <.<

Now if you want to ban me then ban me but I'm not going to give in because you're threatening me. And I was already planning to quit this conversation because, because of this subject millions off people have died and wars have been provoked.

 

tbh i dont belive in this thread because people have all diffrent belife's and i for one belive that god is real.

 

1. No one is "falling back" on the big bang. Stop claiming that. Stop appealing to ignorance.
2. Take notice to the word SCIENTIFIC THEORY, and understand what it means.

Wikipedia definition:
"In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena."

Wrong, science can prove the physical causes for these emotions. To explain it simply, you're high on natural substances produced in your body as a reaction to external stimuli.

We are not the ones living by a book that commands conversion of those who don't agree with us...

 

Creating humans in a laboratory has not been done because it would be shot down by ethics, not because it isn't possible. There has been attempts at sheep, you've undoubtedly heard of this so I won't dig up Wikipedia, even this was shot down on ethical grounds because it wasn't a success. But with time to research and conduct experiments, I see it as a possibility to artificially create humans.

I'm still against using non-consenting humans for research, just stating the possibility.

 

Just because we can't now, doesn't mean we won't ever be able to. We're simply not far enough developed, but I know that there are people attempting to create life from scratch as we speak. It may not be a human, but creating life from scratch is a huge accomplishment, as the farthest we've gotten so far is the formation of amino acids.

200 years ago, if someone told you about a T.V., even the smartest scientists wouldn't know what to make of it, as electricity was a very foreign concept to them, it had only recently been quantified. However, manipulation of electricity was totally out of the question for them. Now, 200 years later, the necessary technology to make a television is around, and a T.V. is not nearly as complicated as once thought. The same thing can certainly happen with the creation of human life. You are not one to claim that we will never be able to perform such a thing.

@Sythe: The proposition of M-theory was the offering of an alternative. I'm a high-school senior, I know nothing of quantum physics, but if you'd like I could bring in my friend to discuss it with you (UCLA graduate physics professor). Anyway, it was beside the point, as it was assuming that my first statement in said post was incorrect, which I am fairly certain that the Big Bang does not claim to be the beginning of the Universe. However, if you merely meant time, then I suppose in a very technical sense, we can imagine it being the beginning of time as we know not what time was like in the singularity.

 

the being can create a stone which it cannot lift at the moment of creation. Being omnipotent, however, the being can always alter the stone (or itself) later so that it can lift it. -this is the logical answer you seek.

obvious questions that aitheist have avoided.
1. If God is omnipotent would he not be able to solve the paradox?

2.Who says that an omnipotent being has to follow human logic ?

again sythe this isnt evidence as the only proof atheisists have is this 'conrtradiction' which isnt hard to go around at all it took me 5 mins.

 

You can be rational in identifying the irrational. Your position is invalid.

 

OK lets say he doesnt alter the stone but since he is omnipontent he can alter himself and then lift it.

 

What you all don't understand is that configurations of matter do not work perfectly with matters of configuration. In other words, God wouldn't put us here if we wouldn't put God here, and to make it simpler, we do not choose our own God based on religion, but on necessary judgement/biased creations. If you don't put God in the forefront of your life, he will put himself behind it all, and just so you know, God doesn't care what type boots you wear, he cares more about what's inside the boots. My main point is that you need not worry about what God thinks of you, because you are what you are, and God is (or isn't, for that matter) a reconstructive pariothipical being, but a neo-righonest who exists only because of the irrationalities and bi-opular gravings of human nature, which he did NOT create, he just is here for the same reason police exist, and laws, and governments. God is here. God is there. But God is NOT everywhere. God exists only where God is needed. And only when. But not all the time. My main point is this: just kidding, you'll need to read everything I wrote to understand it, I can't summarize it in one sentence, just read it though, it's more proof that God exists than anyone has ever proven. I am planning on releasing my theory to the public officially in my new book "HeavenProof: Proof God Exists" sometime early next year. Enjoy.

 

If I understood your post correctly, this is the kind of God I find ideal. If a God existed that would reward me for being a skeptic and denying him, that would be great.

 

Thats all nice but you clearly do not understand what actual omnipotence is. a part of Omnipotence is being able to be at all places at all times. In another time he could alter himself and be able to pick the stone but at the same time creating a stone in another time. its complicatated but is no way is omnipotence a paradox.

 

I see two outcomes here, just like the original paradox.

Outcome 1.
Time A: God has the ability to alter himself to pick up the rock, and does so.
Time B: God has the ability to alter himself to pick up the rock, but chooses not to.
Conclusion: God failed to make a stone he couldn't lift, therefore God is not omnipotent.

Outcome 2.
Time A: God has the ability to alter himself to pick up the rock, and does so.
Time B: God does not have the ability to alter himself to pick up the rock.
Conclusion: God is not omnipotent in "time B" because he lacks the ability to alter himself to pick up the rock, therefore God is not omnipotent.

There is no way you can reason yourself out of this, even by resorting to metaphysics, but by all means keep trying.

 

No this isn't my position... I'm saying that there is no way in hell that a human is ever going to be able to create anoter human with any disorders the scientific way. Why? Because we're already thousands of years living all together on this planet and we've been constantly seeking to the reason off life and how to make life by ourselves *putting stem cells together and we still didn't find any solution to make a human without disorders. So how about making stem cells by ourself and then try and make a human without disorder by ourselves? Many scientists has said that this is never going to happen. I see this as God's work because this is way out of our league.

Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."9

Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion (we're talking about the bang), "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."10

In other words the universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.

 

since God is omnipotent (everywhere at any time period anywhere) the rock when he created it can not be lifted then but at the same time in the future he can lift it.
-gf