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x339 · Nov 15, 2012

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1308273
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1300493
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1298732
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1290411
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1283138
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1284531
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1282134
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1353106
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1345208
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1346187
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1346144
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1321160
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1329341
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1331246
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1319687
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1329647
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1329554
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1319058
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1325500
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1322991
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1319755
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1309723
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1313468
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1445845
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1447908
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1447714
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1447524
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1444825
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1442390
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1442814
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1436942
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1433930
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1433499
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1430734
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1408275
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1428498
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1427130
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1413241
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1423286
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1419774
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1407299
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1400021
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1401075
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1399313
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1355384
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1371953
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1372564
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1370816
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1368066
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1360445
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1360267
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1325279
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1481628
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1490053
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1482011
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1480114
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1476999
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1478914
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1470051
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1471227
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1473698
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1472118
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1459127
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1455146
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1452732

Removing all of those threads (which are now irrelevant and do not need to be in suggestions), will make things a lot cleaner, and will create a more focused and clear list of ideas. This will make it a lot easier for upper staff to decide what should be done, and what shouldn't.

(Yes I went through and picked out all those threads >_>)

MohtasaUnique · Nov 15, 2012

All of the threads linked have been properly archived.

FlyingToast · Nov 15, 2012

Mad props to Moh knocking those Suggestions out of here.

x339 · Nov 16, 2012

FlyingToast said: ↑

Mad props to Moh knocking those Suggestions out of here.
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Thank you to Moh and Cosrob for your work on that.

Dial · Nov 19, 2012

I'd just like to post saying that I (obviously) support this.

There's no butt-hurtness when I say that Sythe is dying and needs to change to appeal to newcomers.

xDelta Squadx · Nov 21, 2012

quoted for truth. inb4censorship

a certain new someone is only mod because he sucked enough cock to get into that position, which i knew he would get it, he even stated he we befriend everyone to work his way up. also the remark on frenzy was spot on. which im sure that promo was from being on teamspeak with superman all the time.

enjoy your eternal hellfury of ass fagghotry homesxuality and utter disgracefullness.

P.S. jew i never liked you, also laptop shut up fagghot.

HAPPY THANKS GIVING EVERYONE!

x339 said: ↑

Dialatic was spot on in everything he was saying. Staff members would like to use the excuse that he is just raging over not becoming mod, but in fact it's quite the opposite. Dialatic saw all these problems before, during, and after being a moderator. Before requesting to return to staff he told me he wanted to do it because he wanted to try and change the site for the better, and that doing it through a moderator position would be much easier. Instead he was denied, and so he made one last ditch effort to get his point across.

It's kind of funny too, almost everyone on that thread was agreeing with him, yet the staff tried to shut him down because they don't like what he had to say. Corey is the prime example of a mod who just uses marshal law, and thinks he is right because of it.

So I'm going to make some points here, and I want this to remain open so that other members can post their opinions as well. Yes it's going to create drama, but you know what, shit happens. If you can't handle the drama it will bring, you should probably just get off the internet right now. It's all part of the growing process, and of course there are going to be some growing pains involved. Don't cry about it and close the thread as an excuse.

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How moderators are chosen - We all see how it works. There isn't a literal DNP list, but we all know there are users who are never going to get it. Why do these users usually end up in this position? Because they care. Users who go out of their way to try and become a moderator are instantly shut down. When I was new here, a well known member decided to srb because he was upset about how things were being run. A global posted as said "Oh so and so, you would have been mod if you didn't make it so apparent that you wanted it". That is exactly the kind of the attitude people have on sythe, and it's completely asinine. Users who go out of their way to help the site, and try to do their best so that they can become a moderator and help even more are denied. Users who act like they don't give a shit get promoted. Why. This logic makes no sense, and is completely useless, because basically we have a bunch of staff members who really don't give a shit about seeing the site grow, and all the users who really want to help the site are looked down upon.

A common excuse in this case is going to be "oh you want mod so bad hurr durr". I wanted to be a moderator so that I could help the site, in fact I feel like I could get a lot more done now if I was one, but I'm not because of the personal feelings staff members have against me. I know it's not going to happen, and so using that as an excuse to tell me this is wrong is not going to work.

The staff really does not care - One of the best examples of this so far has got to be the community development team. We already have a few staff on the team, but the majority are not part of it. Not one single staff member has applied to become a community development member. Not one single staff member (aside from those already on it) has shown any sort of interest in actually helping the site. It's a prime example of how people are bred to really not give a shit about the site, and then they are put in charge, and all those users who do care (the ones applying) are never going to become a moderator, because they care too much.

You can pretty much tell who cares and who doesn't. DJweasel cares (sorry Dial, gotta disagree on this point ); it is nearly impossible for him to effectively moderate on sythe, yet he goes out of his way to do it every day. He is more active then half the other globals, and he doesn't even have a computer for christ's sake. SuF cares; he is probably one of the only people who actually tries to get some bit of innovation going. Frenzy doesn't care. The only reason she remains a moderator is because people like her. She gets modscore, that's all. She doesn't do anything else, yet she remains in the position. Clashfan doesn't care. He's a cool dude, but he doesn't do shit. People like him, so he remains in the position. It just reinforces the point that users who don't care climb the ranks, and users who do are shot down. I enjoy both Clashfan and Frenzy as people, and so does everyone else, which is why they are still moderators, but that's not the right reasons, and you have to look at what they're doing and not who they are.

A common excuse in this scenario is going to be "this is just a personal attack", and to some degree, it is. The vast majority of staff members really don't care about the site, and the only reason they are in the position is because they like the power and the rank that comes with it. If you're going to be there, do something with it.

Everything's personal - This is my favorite part. Let's take a look at my ban today. Why was I banned? I was banned for doing something that countless other users have done. I posted a link to my website, in the spam forum. http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1490301 - got a warning and the thread closed, yet I was banned. We all know why I was banned. There are plenty of staff members who are just waiting for me to fuck up. They can't wait to ban me in hopes that I'll be out of their hair for good: The prime example of how the staff have become overly personal in everything they do on this site. I call that corruption. Everything is personal now. They try to hide it under the professionalism guise, but that is so far from the truth. Staff members obtain and retain their positions based on how much the superiors like them. It has nothing to do with the quality of their skills or anything else, it's all about who is who's bff.

Listen - Every thread like this is starting to end up the same way. Staff disagree, and almost everyone else agrees. The staff then decide to close it because they think they are right in every manner, and that is that. Let's look at a more visual example here. Mcdonalds introduces a new product, it tastes like shit, and their customers respond with feedback telling them it is horrible. What does Mcdonalds do in this case? If Mcdonalds was run by Sythe staff they would tell the customers that they are wrong, the food tastes good, and that they don't know what they are talking about. Lucky for us, Mcdonalds is run by people who know what they're doing, and so they listen to the customers, change the product, and then they become more successful.

I hope that example is pretty easy to grasp, because it's exactly what is happening here. The staff assume everyone else has no clue what they're talking about, and so they end it. In fact, we do know what we're talking about, and with out users like us there would be no forum in the first place. If you want to be successful you actually have to listen to people. You can't just say you're right and close the thread (http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1490139&page=3).

Conclusion - The staff better get a hold of things, because you're suffocating the forum you've spent quite a bit of time on. Maybe you don't realize it, but you are, and you need to open your eyes so you can see what you're doing.

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tl;dr If you can't handle the drama that will come with this thread, you're a pussy, and you should just leave. It's all part of the growing pains. Now go back and read it.
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Nerfed · Nov 22, 2012

^^^^^^^^^^^^ i like. (support)

Punjabi3 · Nov 22, 2012

xDelta Squadx said: ↑

quoted for truth. inb4censorship

a certain new someone is only mod because he sucked enough cock to get into that position, which i knew he would get it, he even stated he we befriend everyone to work his way up. also the remark on frenzy was spot on. which im sure that promo was from being on teamspeak with superman all the time.

enjoy your eternal hellfury of ass fagghotry homesxuality and utter disgracefullness.

P.S. jew i never liked you, also laptop shut up fagghot.

HAPPY THANKS GIVING EVERYONE!
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lol I just lost so much respect for you, you basically just unleashed all your butt hurt in one post.

xDelta Squadx · Nov 22, 2012

Punjabi3 said: ↑

lol I just lost so much respect for you, you basically just unleashed all your butt hurt in one post.
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what am i butthurt about? I SRB because i grew bored with the site, that whole firez thing was just me fooling around before i put my srb in, but alas i remeber i had my alt account which needed to be banned aswell so i figured i would make a post here aswell so a mod would lock this account.

i'm not butthurt about anything, i enjoyed my time here and had no regrets, however i do have chatlogs of daves whole " ima befriend er mod to get mod" statement, and about frenzy is true aswell atleast only from my point of veiw.

Dial · Nov 22, 2012

xDelta Squadx said: ↑

i'm not butthurt about anything, i enjoyed my time here and had no regrets, however i do have chatlogs of daves whole " ima befriend er mod to get mod" statement, and about frenzy is true aswell atleast only from my point of veiw.
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Like I mentioned in my thread, I heard the same thing. He started getting closer to Ryan to get OMM, but instead got a moderator position.

I think Dave's a great guy and should be promoted, I just found the situation a bit bizarre, and funny how it happened that way.

Corey · Nov 24, 2012

Befriending any certain member of staff will only get you a poll if anything, it still takes a supermajority vote to get promoted to staff.

Therefore, befriending a staff member will only get you a staff position if you really deserve it.

djweasel · Nov 24, 2012

xDelta Squadx said: ↑

quoted for truth. inb4censorship

a certain new someone is only mod because he sucked enough cock to get into that position, which i knew he would get it, he even stated he we befriend everyone to work his way up. also the remark on frenzy was spot on. which im sure that promo was from being on teamspeak with superman all the time.

enjoy your eternal hellfury of ass fagghotry homesxuality and utter disgracefullness.

P.S. jew i never liked you, also laptop shut up fagghot.

HAPPY THANKS GIVING EVERYONE!
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Well good to see you back Delta for a minute I don't really know what to say about this post but damn.

BeeVer · Nov 24, 2012

xDelta Squadx said: ↑

quoted for truth. inb4censorship

a certain new someone is only mod because he sucked enough cock to get into that position, which i knew he would get it, he even stated he we befriend everyone to work his way up. also the remark on frenzy was spot on. which im sure that promo was from being on teamspeak with superman all the time.

enjoy your eternal hellfury of ass fagghotry homesxuality and utter disgracefullness.

P.S. jew i never liked you, also laptop shut up fagghot.

HAPPY THANKS GIVING EVERYONE!
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Delta, I like you. But stop talking bro..

If sucking cock is defined as catching scammers, reporting posts and essentially helping the site improve and grow, then by all means he was running brains like a slut. He's doing good and deserved it more than anyone else I know.

Jack · Nov 24, 2012

BeeVer said: ↑

Delta, I like you. But stop talking bro..

If sucking cock is defined as catching scammers, reporting posts and essentially helping the site improve and grow, then by all means he was running brains like a slut. He's doing good and deserved it more than anyone else I know.
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Yeah that's one thing I hate about sythe. There is such a negative mindset here where most people who are nice and friendly towards people and helps the site are labelled as dick suckers. It's retarded quite frankly.

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