Evidence against Leanbean

[Direchampion]

Similarly, I hope that OP is wrong, but there are many coincidences that make me suspicious.

As it stands, would Leanbean have to pay the 2k back due to losing control of his skype, or is he not responsible?

 

As things are currently handled, he doesn't need to pay. Unless any evidence is provided contrary to his story.

 

[Honest Iago]

Similarly, I hope that OP is wrong, but there are many coincidences that make me suspicious.

As it stands, would Leanbean have to pay the 2k back due to losing control of his skype, or is he not responsible?

According to the rules he should. At the very least he should be BANNED. One can reach and say repayment is up for speculation, however the ban is not.

 

[Honest Iago]

As things are currently handled, he doesn't need to pay. Unless any evidence is provided contrary to his story.

Why is this when the rules state otherwise. Why is he not banned?

 

[Honest Iago]

He went through the Skype support center and they asked him for information he didn't have/keep/remember/whatever as already established, subsequently they locked the account.

So a hacker can hack leanbean901's account but leanbean901 himself can't even recover it? :noworry:

 

[Lean]

1. The "hacker" messaged Honest Iago at roughly 4 PM to get his MP, the scam occured at roughly 5 PM, and he spammed everyone at 5:15 PM to ask to buy gold/MP and then signed off after sending two messages to all online contacts. [1][2]

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   There is no way to know if the hacker spam messaged people before, during, or after the scam took place. You're giving examples of two people who received a message out of every contact on my skype.
   
   

   [*]This scam happened exactly 1 month after Leanbean reached his Paypal limit for redeeming MP cards (which resets after 1 month). [1]

   
   My paypal account history has been screenshared showing that I haven't used it for any moneypak redemtptions so this claim is invalid.
   
   

   [1]
   [*]Leanbean has admitted to using another Paypal account, or trying to.

   
   I didn't admit to using another paypal account so again, invalid.
   
   

   [*]Leanbean claims that the hacker knew to target Honest Iago because of the contact group "Moneypak" on his Skype. That's the only way he'd know that this guy had MP. Leanbean didn't account for the fact that contact groups are not transferred between computers, you only see your own on your computer..

   
   I didn't claim that's how the hacker knew to target Honest Iago, if you read my post I said "I have him added under the moneypak group" I didn't say that's how he knew, because there is no way I can know for sure how he would know.
   
   

   [*]After this initial scam, the "hacker" has not logged back on and tried to make any more money.

   
   I had my account locked.

 

You'd have to ask the hacker how they got the information or what information they required. Don't shoot the messenger

 

Couldn't Honest Iago contact Moneypak and ask them to provide the email account the moneypack was redeemed too?

 

[AdamsGoldShop]

There is no way to know if the hacker spam messaged people before, during, or after the scam took place. You're giving examples of two people who received a message out of every contact on my skype.

False. If im right, mass messages' time will be the same for everyone.

 

[AdamsGoldShop]

Couldn't Honest Iago contact Moneypak and ask them to provide the email account the moneypack was redeemed too?

we cant do anything with the email, becuase it can be anything

 

[Delta Squad]

My paypal account history has been screenshared showing that I haven't used it for any moneypak redemtptions so this claim is invalid.

then post your browser history for the day that he was scammed, as it would show if you did infact redeem a mp or not, regardless if it was on a diff paypal account.

 

[Lean]

False. If im right, mass messages' time will be the same for everyone.

Please enlighten me on how my statement is false?

 

[nodnarbusn]

Couldn't Honest Iago contact Moneypak and ask them to provide the email account the moneypack was redeemed too?

Ive never messed with moneypak but that sounds like a great idea to get concrete proof one way or the other.

 

we cant do anything with the email, becuase it can be anything

Really depends on what the email address was/name linked on the paypal account

 

[AdamsGoldShop]

then post your browser history for the day that he was scammed, as it would show if you did infact redeem a mp or not, regardless if it was on a diff paypal account.

can be cleaned

 

[AdamsGoldShop]

Really depends on what the email address was/name linked on the paypal account

well can be any relative or stuff

 

Iago tried to contact MP but they aren't interested because they say not to give the MP to third parties.

 

[Delta Squad]

can be cleaned

well if its been cleaned, and we know he was infact was on the net that day, doesnt that sum up he was indeed the one who did it?

 

[AdamsGoldShop]

well if its been cleaned, and we know he was infact was on the net that day, doesnt that sum up he was indeed the one who did it?

you can delete invidual website visits on chrome. Like delete the paypal visit from that day and keep everything else

 

Iago tried to contact MP but they aren't interested because they say not to give the MP to third parties.

Seeing as leanbean is knowledgeable of MP, it doesn't seem too far fetched that this plan was mocked up prior to the release of his PP limit.

Intentionally getting his account locked to prevent release of any information.
Unable to view the email used (Like it mattered, he could have made a new one)


It's like he made sure there was no traceable evidence. :c

It all could be a coincidence though, does this make it the 4th or 5th coincident?