Evidence against Leanbean

Well, there is a large discussion going on, but the individual ideas aren't organized anywhere so they can be reviewed. This section could use some activity, so I'll post it here.

Leanbean claims to have been hacked and Honest Iago was scammed for $2,000 in Moneypak.

1. The "hacker" messaged Honest Iago at roughly 4 PM to get his MP, the scam occured at roughly 5 PM, and he spammed everyone at 5:15 PM to ask to buy gold/MP and then signed off after sending two messages to all online contacts. [1][2]
2. This scam happened exactly 1 month after Leanbean reached his Paypal limit for redeeming MP cards (which resets after 1 month). [1]
3. Leanbean has admitted to using another Paypal account, or trying to.
4. Leanbean claims that the hacker knew to target Honest Iago because of the contact group "Moneypak" on his Skype. That's the only way he'd know that this guy had MP. Leanbean didn't account for the fact that contact groups are not transferred between computers, you only see your own on your computer.
5. After this initial scam, the "hacker" has not logged back on and tried to make any more money.
6. Leanbean claims that he has no proof of the hacking because he didn't use a real e-mail address when making the Skype, so never got an e-mail about the password being reset.

Work in progress and adding evidence, but posting early so that it can be posted on and more evidence added.

 

[Tyler]

The "hacker" messaged Honest Iago at roughly 4 PM to get his MP, the scam occured at roughly 5 PM, and he spammed everyone at 5:15 PM to ask to buy gold/MP and then signed off after sending two messages to all online contacts.

Answered in thread, The hack saw that this target was obviously stupid, and therfore easy to scam

This scam happened exactly 1 month after Leanbean reached his Paypal limit for redeeming MP cards (which resets after 1 month).

god forbid things cant be a convenience can they?

Leanbean has admitted to using another Paypal account, or trying to.

Answered in thread.

Leanbean claims that the hacker knew to target Honest Iago because of the contact group "Moneypak" on his Skype. That's the only way he'd know that this guy had MP. Leanbean didn't account for the fact that contact
groups are not transferred between computers, you only see your own on your computer.

does the user have any threads on sythe?
can the hacker not read old message logs?

Leanbean

thanks for showing your obvious bias in this situation

 

[Koed]

How about the fact that he doesn't have access to the original email he signed up to the Skype with? That would prove that his shit was changed, a little too convenient of a scenario that he has no access.

 

[Koed]

Answered in thread, The hack saw that this target was obviously stupid, and therfore easy to scam





god forbid things cant be a convenience can they?



Answered in thread.




does the user have any threads on sythe?
can the hacker not read old message logs?



thanks for showing your obvious bias in this situation

ROFL DUDE ARE YOU LEANBEAN OR SOMETHING?

I don't know how anyone with a semblance of a brain could look at all this evidence and still think the way you do.

 

Answered in thread, The hack saw that this target was obviously stupid, and therfore easy to scam

A hacker would have messaged everyone right off the bat to make the most money.

god forbid things cant be a convenience can they?

I think the word you're looking for is coincidence, and yes it can, but it's odd that all of these things happened.

Answered in thread.

No, it wasn't. He could have still made another one.

does the user have any threads on sythe?
can the hacker not read old message logs?

Yes, but there are larger targets than this one guy.

thanks for showing your obvious bias in this situation

What are you talking about?

 

[Laptop65]

How about the fact that he doesn't have access to the original email he signed up to the Skype with?

That fact that he's a Global and apparently doesn't have access to this does start to make things look a little odd in my eyes.

 

[AdamsGoldShop]

OP's points are quite strong. Looking forward to lean's reply. I hope staff wont make an exception for him if this is true...

 

[Tyler]

A hacker would have messaged everyone right off the bat to make the most money.

That makes it partially obvious to people that his skype has been hacked. How many moderators do you know that send out mass messaages?

I think the word you're looking for is coincidence, and yes it can, but it's odd that all of these things happened.

Yes it can, and thanks just le typo

No, it wasn't. He could have still made another one.

Read his post. I know he could be lying but why does he need to?

Yes, but there are larger targets than this one guy.

If you had a guaranteed thousand dollars right now, or the possible opportunity to get some money what would you choose?

What are you talking about?

sigh.

 

[AdamsGoldShop]

That fact that he's a Global and apparently doesn't have access to this does start to make things look a little odd in my eyes.

yea tbh it looks quite sketchy to me. When i made my skype i saved everything about it on my computer, and lean has been in market for a while so i guess he knows how stuff goes...

The fact that he is a moderator and know every single rule of sythe makes him able to pull scams like this without punishment

 

[win4fun]

Leanbean claims that the hacker knew to target Honest Iago because of the contact group "Moneypak" on his Skype. That's the only way he'd know that this guy had MP.

I took a quick look at Honest Iago's recent posts and found this:
http://www.sythe.org/digital-curren...mption-service-cheap-secure.html#post13724005.

No offense to WhoNeedsAChaser who redeemed the moneypack but trusting a $50 donor with 400 posts with $2300 shows that he is way too trusting of people. If an intelligent scammer saw this thread they would see they could steal a huge amount by posing as someone redeeming a MP.

 

[funbox]

can the hacker not read old message logs?

Message logs are saved on personal computers. You can not view previous messages that where discussed at a prior date on a different computer.

The only way to do so is if the user was ratted (which didn't happen) or got access to his computer.(yeah, no.)

 

[Laptop65]

Message logs are saved on personal computers. You can not view previous messages that where discussed at a prior date on a different computer.

The only way to do so is if the user was ratted (which didn't happen) or got access to his computer.(yeah, no.)

Actually Skype will download some past chat logs if you login to a new computer, only a very recent batch though.

 

[Koed]

That makes it partially obvious to people that his skype has been hacked. How many moderators do you know that send out mass messaages?




Yes it can, and thanks just le typo



Read his post. I know he could be lying but why does he need to?



If you had a guaranteed thousand dollars right now, or the possible opportunity to get some money what would you choose?



sigh.

Wtf do you mean guaranteed thousand dollars dude? It's not as if peoples Skypes get hacked in 10 seconds. What the fuck kind of backwards ass hacker would target LEANBEAN of all people, DIG UP SOME RANDOM TRADE, and know exactly who to message for the best moneypaks when Honest doesn't even share his Skype with anyone. It's not some easy cash, it would take a lot of work to orchestrate this for a measly 2 grand. No, this is Lean taking advantage of the fact the guy didn't PM and grabbing the cash spur of the moment.

 

[funbox]

Actually Skype will download some past chat logs if you login to a new computer, only a very recent batch though.

when i used skype on my laptop for the first time nothing was saved.

 

[Tyler]

Message logs are saved on personal computers. You can not view previous messages that where discussed at a prior date on a different computer.

The only way to do so is if the user was ratted (which didn't happen) or got access to his computer.(yeah, no.)

Hmm, didnt know that. Thanks.

Wtf do you mean guaranteed thousand dollars dude? It's not as if peoples Skypes get hacked in 10 seconds. What the fuck kind of backwards ass hacker would target LEANBEAN of all people, DIG UP SOME RANDOM TRADE, and know exactly who to message for the best moneypaks when Honest doesn't even share his Skype with anyone. It's not some easy cash, it would take a lot of work to orchestrate this for a measly 2 grand. No, this is Lean taking advantage of the fact the guy didn't PM and grabbing the cash spur of the moment.

Please read win4fun's post above.

 

People are discrediting their own arguments by just trash talking each other. That doesn't help. Try to be rational and mature about discussing the matter at hand rather than attacking people and flaming.

These discussions only help when they don't turn in to a flame fest.

 

[Honest Iago]

god forbid things cant be a convenience can they?

Coincidence you mean? Stfu. You're stupid.

 

[Honest Iago]

People are discrediting their own arguments by just trash talking each other. That doesn't help. Try to be rational and mature about discussing the matter at hand rather than attacking people and flaming.

These discussions only help when they don't turn in to a flame fest.

Can you check my scam report. According to rules it doesn't specify when only if. Thus Leanbean901 should be banned.

 

[SuF]

People are discrediting their own arguments by just trash talking each other. That doesn't help. Try to be rational and mature about discussing the matter at hand rather than attacking people and flaming.

These discussions only help when they don't turn in to a flame fest.

Why are you even letting people talk about an open scam report? Seems like it should be none of our business unless there is unfair treatment or a shitty verdict.

 

Not commenting on this all that much but when I switched to my newest computer around 75% of my chat logs from the last week or so came with me. Just commenting on my experience on the matter.