Every christian is a hypocrite

[asdfgasda]

This ticks me off, if atheism is about examining the evidence and only believe in proof then you people are doing a horrible job.

There are many good arguments atheist make against religion, but the ones like this none of you have thought out and are just trying to make reasons. Don't tell me I'm dumb because I believe in God which has no proof when you don't even think out your own arguments.

You can get a bible for free in almost any church. Even if they make profit (if there is any) the money would go to the church. You could say to the churches that would not give you a free bible are corrupt but they are few and it would definitely not be a church I would be apart of.

athiest's provided more then enough proof that religion is fake, and no1's calling you stupid, but im calling you delusional. "A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception." Directly from wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusions, no changes made to it.

You christians are more sinful then everybody else, we all know you go to church to release your sins, but then you sin again the next day.

So, my theory is that.
Religous People = Delusional

 

[deadzone]

I love how Deadzone got owned, and had to start using other arguements than the bible being sold, because people proved him wrong, more than once.

Hmm, you really think so? If that is true please show me where I got "owned" and where I started to use other arguments. I am simply showing you other things that prove my point of your hypocrisy and answering all of your questions. So sir I am beginning to believe you're illiterate in which case go back to the runescape sections and have a gay love fest with the other ignorant people of the forum.

The first bible I had was for my confirmation, besides the one my mum had lying around. It was the Saints edition or something. It doesn't have the notes on the passages that the educational bibles have. I already explained why I needed two educational bibles, the analysis is a lot more in depth in the 10-12 bible.

Ok you never said one had a "special addition" to it. I can see why maybe getting a new one if thats what you believe in. Just a thought though why don't all bibles have the added information wouldn't it be more convenient?

I believe in God, there you go. There's 2.1 billion people that believe in a similar God - Christians.

I didn't ask for the belief about your god I asked you to disprove my statement that there are still people that worship said deities on the previous page

Just like holiday rares in RS... o noes... fagscape...

Oh dear.. you have soiled my thread with blasphemy...

Because your claiming that because I believe in the same God as someone corrupt or whatever, that makes me corrupt or a hypocrite or whatever. We've used so many words in this conversation, that I don't know what to use anymore.

I'm a hypocrite for other reasons (and Volcomchamp can attest to that ), but not because I believe in the same God as someone else.

You are missing my point to this thread completely. Re-read your bible then think about all the actions you do throughout the day for about a month. I am sure within that month you will break some of your rules or commit some form of hypocrisy.

 

[Darkgroove]

Ok you never said one had a "special addition" to it. I can see why maybe getting a new one if thats what you believe in. Just a thought though why don't all bibles have the added information wouldn't it be more convenient?

Do you see your problem then? You're generalizing. Which is exactly what's wrong with this thread.

Why don't all novels studied in school contain the analysis?

I didn't ask for the belief about your god I asked you to disprove my statement that there are still people that worship said deities on the previous page

No it's the same for your god

That's what that was directed at.

I'll take Greece as my example.

97% of the Greek population celebrate the Orthodox religion whilst Muslim, Roman Catholic and Jewish make up most of the remaining religions.

Greece and Russia are the only countries to adopt the Orthodox religion, which forms the largest branch of Christianity
outside of the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant Church.

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source:http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/articles/article/Greece/Religion-in-Greece/412

I don't see any mention of anyone following Zeus? That's why it's called ancient religion. The ANCIENT Greeks believed in it.

Oh dear.. you have soiled my thread with blasphemy...

o noes D:

You are missing my point to this thread completely. Re-read your bible then think about all the actions you do throughout the day for about a month. I am sure within that month you will break some of your rules or commit some form of hypocrisy.

Yes, I do. Everyone does, it's called humanity. And I'm sorry for it.

Now the problem with that is, you claimed I was a hypocrite because:

1. You think the leaders of the Church are hypocrites
2. Christians sell bibles, rather than just give them away for free

We've already explained why the bibles need to be sold.

Now, how do the above two things make me a hypocrite?

athiest's provided more then enough proof that religion is fake

I'm quite sure religion is real...

 

[deadzone]

Do you see your problem then? You're generalizing. Which is exactly what's wrong with this thread.

Why don't all novels studied in school contain the analysis?

Because the bible was made nothing more can be added to it. While on the other hand time goes by and we have more information about our past go figure huh? and or if it's related to nowadays such as science etc. We are always learning new things that means we need to constantly keep up to date or the world in a whole can't progress it's knowledge any.

I don't see any mention of anyone following Zeus? That's why it's called ancient religion. The ANCIENT Greeks believed in it.

No, but They also didn't interview every person there now did they? for example

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

Not in the smaller text on the right it says "Due to rounding, figures may not add to 100, and nested figures may not add to the subtotal indicated"

Notice the ROUNDING? thats all they do they take a handful of people ask them there beliefs and go by the averages for the total population. you can't beyond a shadow of a doubt prove there is no one that still believes in these religions\deities etc.

Yes, I do. Everyone does, it's called humanity. And I'm sorry for it.

Now the problem with that is, you claimed I was a hypocrite because:
You think the leaders of the Church are hypocrites
Christians sell bibles, rather than just give them away for free
We've already explained why the bibles need to be sold.

Now, how do the above two things make me a hypocrite?

For one you claim to be a Christian, Christians are suppose to be "good" yet you know that the leaders of your church are corrupt etc. as you just admited to it , it's part of "humanity" Yet you still follow them.

There is a little saying I can't remember from who it came from but "when going through life blindly you need only to look at your life now now because it's exactly as far as you will get. " or at least something to that extent. You are blindly believing in these preachers\pastors thinking they are doing gods handy work how can you be sure? as you said you know yourself they do things wrong. Before you say "oh I don't follow them" then I must ask why go to church? all you need to do is be a good person\pray\believe and you will achieve your desired destination after death.

 

[Darkgroove]

Because the bible was made nothing more can be added to it. While on the other hand time goes by and we have more information about our past go figure huh? and or if it's related to nowadays such as science etc. We are always learning new things that means we need to constantly keep up to date or the world in a whole can't progress it's knowledge any

Different books that are held in the Vatican can always be added to it.


No, but They also didn't interview every person there now did they? for example

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

Not in the smaller text on the right it says "Due to rounding, figures may not add to 100, and nested figures may not add to the subtotal indicated"

Notice the ROUNDING? thats all they do they take a handful of people ask them there beliefs and go by the averages for the total population. you can't beyond a shadow of a doubt prove there is no one that still believes in these religions\deities etc.

So what you're saying is, there's no proof that anyone believes in ANCIENT *repetitive word here* religions?

For one you claim to be a Christian, Christians are suppose to be "good" yet you know that the leaders of your church are corrupt etc. as you just admited to it , it's part of "humanity" Yet you still follow them.

No, I said humans make mistakes. I didn't say the "church leaders" were corrupt. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

There is a little saying I can't remember from who it came from but "when going through life blindly you need only to look at your life now now because it's exactly as far as you will get. " or at least something to that extent. You are blindly believing in these preachers\pastors thinking they are doing gods handy work how can you be sure? as you said you know yourself they do things wrong. Before you say "oh I don't follow them" then I must ask why go to church? all you need to do is be a good person\pray\believe and you will achieve your desired destination after death.

And yet again, you completely disregard everything I've told you in this thread about how I follow my religion.

I haven't been to church (with the exception of sacraments) in quite a while actually.
Again, following the same beliefs as someone else doesn't make me a hypocrite. It's what I do, not anyone else, that makes me a hypocrite.

 

[deadzone]

Different books that are held in the Vatican can always be added to it.

You can't simply add information to the bible and say god told you to by your logic it doesn't work that way. All the nonsense the Vatican has is just there own made up bs to help them live more comfortably

No, but They also didn't interview every person there now did they? for example

Is there something I'm missing here? that makes no sense. lol

So what you're saying is, there's no proof that anyone believes in ANCIENT *repetitive word here* religions?

As I have said numerous times now and it's beginning to bore me now. There is no way to tell for 100% if people believe or don't believe in something. I've seen people around here joke about believing in the "giant spaghetti monster" who is to say someone doesn't really believe in it?

No, I said humans make mistakes. I didn't say the "church leaders" were corrupt. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

Well what the hell are they squids, reindeer, aliens? I mean cmon get real you're just trying to stall now it's sad honestly. You openly admitted to saying humans make mistakes etc. guess what they're humans they have a lust for greed like everyone else among many other feelings that come with being human.

And yet again, you completely disregard everything I've told you in this thread about how I follow my religion.

I haven't been to church (with the exception of sacraments) in quite a while actually.
Again, following the same beliefs as someone else doesn't make me a hypocrite. It's what I do, not anyone else, that makes me a hypocrite.

you endorse a group of people who say there doing the holy\honorable thing when they're not you still associate with them [as you say not so much but you still do occasionally] that is just as bad. You keep making excuses for yourself and your religion because you don't want to face the facts. I have put up several key points and you could not give me a answer to any of them when on the other hand I have answered all of yours. I believe this little debate is over.

 

[Darkgroove]

You can't simply add information to the bible and say god told you to by your logic it doesn't work that way. All the nonsense the Vatican has is just there own made up bs to help them live more comfortably

Erm, dude.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
Read that. Certain books are in the vatican archive because they didn't add it to the bible.

Is there something I'm missing here? that makes no sense. lol

It was a quote from you, I didn't wrap it in the quote tags though. My bad.

As I have said numerous times now and it's beginning to bore me now. There is no way to tell for 100% if people believe or don't believe in something. I've seen people around here joke about believing in the "giant spaghetti monster" who is to say someone doesn't really believe in it?

If thoust believe in the giant spaghetti monster, speak now or forever hold your peace.

Well what the hell are they squids, reindeer, aliens? I mean cmon get real you're just trying to stall now it's sad honestly. You openly admitted to saying humans make mistakes etc. guess what they're humans they have a lust for greed like everyone else among many other feelings that come with being human.

They're humans. Humans make mistakes, humans are not perfect. Say it with me now. I said they make mistakes. I didn't say they were corrupt. Greed is an obstacle, a test.

you endorse a group of people who say there doing the holy\honorable thing when they're not you still associate with them [as you say not so much but you still do occasionally] that is just as bad. You keep making excuses for yourself and your religion because you don't want to face the facts. I have put up several key points and you could not give me a answer to any of them when on the other hand I have answered all of yours. I believe this little debate is over.

I endorse the word of God. These people that you're referring to spread that word to those willing to hear. MY OWN ACTIONS make me a hypocrite, not what other people do.

What the hell are you going on about? I have answered everything you've said to me. Give me one instance in this thread where I haven't, and I'll answer it right now. BELIEVING IN THE SAME THING AS SOMEONE DOESN'T MAKE YOU A HYPOCRITE.

http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=4383631&postcount=43
http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=4383836&postcount=46
I suggest you look back over those two posts. Your head obviously is up your ass, just because you declare victory over Christians, doesn't mean you've won. In fact, if we look over the thread ... people seem to think you're just rambling.

 

[Made in emerica]

LOL irl.

 

[asdfgasda]

If thoust believe in the giant spaghetti monster, speak now or forever hold your peace.

Lawl.... Its funny your making fun of that. Because, if some1 did believe in a giant spaghetti monster, it would make more sense in believing in god.

I endorse the word of God. These people that you're referring to spread that word to those willing to hear. MY OWN ACTIONS make me a hypocrite, not what other people do.

Uhm, if i remember correctly, long time ago, the bible said that the world is flat. So, if god made the world, and had people make the bible for him, should that information be correct?

Now correct me if im wrong...

What the hell are you going on about? I have answered everything you've said to me. Give me one instance in this thread where I haven't, and I'll answer it right now. BELIEVING IN THE SAME THING AS SOMEONE DOESN'T MAKE YOU A HYPOCRITE.

Uhm, you answered his questions with more questions... And it doesn't make you a hypocrite, it makes the religion a hypocrite.

http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=4383631&postcount=43
http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=4383836&postcount=46
I suggest you look back over those two posts. Your head obviously is up your ass, just because you declare victory over Christians, doesn't mean you've won. In fact, if we look over the thread ... people seem to think you're just rambling.

Lol, i've read this whole thead, and it is like, 3 people vs him, and the occasional shreddar who just says god's fake, etc etc.. Everybody who posted in this was christian, so it doesnt matter if they say he was rambling. Your the one rambling about more questions as answers to his questions.


Now, when i said religion is fake, i meant to say the high power in that religion is fake, not the religion itself...





oh, and i just have to say this...
I think people back in the BC made up a "god" because people were just evil, destroying things, killing people, basically total chaos. So they made up this "god" to say if you keep it up your going to hell instead of heavan, blah blah blah. Then some1 got a smarter idea and made a church to make money. Then other people thought of it and made there own god. Etc etc etc....

And, christians are hypocrites because 90% of them, sin throughout the week, go to church to get forgiven, and sin some more the following week.. Every christian i know is like that, so compared to my studies of the handful of people i grabbed that were like that, 90% of them were exactly like that..

 

[Darkgroove]

Uhm, if i remember correctly, long time ago, the bible said that the world is flat. So, if god made the world, and had people make the bible for him, should that information be correct?

You mistake the word of God with the practices of medieval figures. The Church said the world was flat, not the word of God.

Now correct me if im wrong...

Uhm, you answered his questions with more questions... And it doesn't make you a hypocrite, it makes the religion a hypocrite.

Read the title of this thread.

Lol, i've read this whole thead, and it is like, 3 people vs him, and the occasional shreddar who just says god's fake, etc etc.. Everybody who posted in this was christian, so it doesnt matter if they say he was rambling. Your the one rambling about more questions as answers to his questions.

That's not my fault. It's offensive, so I responded, and so did the other 2 people. My "rambling" is to get facts out of him. Atheists are always telling us to prove God exists. Well now you've made a claim, prove it. If I have to ask questions to show he doesn't have proof, I damn sure will.

And, for your information. My answers are not all questions. If I think there's something wrong with what he's said, then I'll ask.

Now, when i said religion is fake, i meant to say the high power in that religion is fake, not the religion itself...

Obviously I was joking.

And, christians are hypocrites because 90% of them, sin throughout the week, go to church to get forgiven, and sin some more the following week.. Every christian i know is like that, so compared to my studies of the handful of people i grabbed that were like that, 90% of them were exactly like that..

That is what makes somebody a hypocrite.Someone is not a hypocrite because they believe in something that somebody else happens to believe in, or because they sell some bibles to cover cost production and so that they can give away other bibles.

 

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