Dial's Feedback for the Community

[JohnK]

Sythe is full of corruption and unfairness, and is ultimately leading to it's decline in popularity. You can look Sythe.org up on any site that shows traffic trends, and it will prove that statement is true. Some people think that Sythe follows the Runescape trend, and that's why it's slowing down. If that's true, then why the fuck aren't we trying to change it? We all know that Runescape is dying, so you're admitting that Sythe will die with it.

i highlighted your bolded point because that is bullshit. if there is one thing about staff that stands out to me historically its their strive for integrity. yes, people sometimes do slip through the cracks but sythe.org as a body can't be held responsible for those actions of the individual.

sythe's popularity was established on the success of the growing RWT of RuneScape. rebranding is not an easy task, but efforts have been made obviously with the additions of a bunch of new game markets and other shit. there could be more done but it's not like staff aren't trying. quit your bitching.

Moderators are chosen based on popularity and who they know, and not based on helpfulness. I'll use myself as an example, because I'm a great example of this. I was a nobody, hell, I still probably am. I donated $200 basically throughout a week time, I spent weeks straight on IRC, and I befriended some globals, which led to my promotion. Although I like to think I did a great job, lots of people who get promoted don't, which leads to the laziness amongst the staff team. I've tried to get staff back after resigning, and honestly think I can't get it back because of some hatred for me among some members of upper staff because I was honest and told it how it was during my time as staff.

again that is a lie. when i was promoted to moderator i didnt have a single moderator on msn and i wasn't friends with any of them. but i had a presence in off-topic for a long, long while and it was recognized with a promotion. i can think of plenty of other people who fall into my category too. but in some cases, however, yes - people promoted are well known by staff. but it makes sense to rather promote people you know and trust. the mod cocksuckers don't make it too far.

also you didn't come out of the blue and get promoted. you were actually on staffs radar when i was on staff, and i left in february.

People who want to be promoted and ask about it (even if they'd be good for the job) are usually told that they've been added to a "do not promote" list. How does this make any fucking sense? People should be promoted based on how much they help and contribute, not who they know. People who don't care are promoted, and that leads to a staff team that doesn't care.

there is no do not promote list. shut up.

Another thing is suggestions and feedback. People like x339 who honestly want to help the site are denied and rejected because of their negative reputation among the site, yet their ideas are actually good. Also, things like a messaging system has been suggested countless times by people who have no reputation, all shot down because of the "do not suggest" list. Mohtasa comes right out and makes the suggestion, and it's been supported and has been ongoing, but will probably get added. Same with a feedback system, it's on this "do not suggest" list and is suggested countless times and rejected, yet it came up recently and it's actually being talked about because it was globals who brought it up.

distortion

Then there's innovation and updates as well, holy shit. What kind of site who honestly wants to succeed even has a do not suggest list? If someone can back up their argument, you should hear them out. Don't just shut it down and link them to this bull shit list. vB4 has probably been talked about for a year or so now, where is it? The site is DDoSed a shit load, where's our protection? Richard makes so much from donations and still can't upgrade stuff? This site just refuses to innovate by shutting down ideas, not upgrading the software, and not upgrading the hosting.

what's the point in letting retards continually suggest shit that we are never going to implement? it's a waste of their time and staffs.



this is definitely just a spiteful chant. grow up faggot.

 

this is definitely just a spiteful chant. grow up faggot.

There's no spite here, it's criticism to help the site. This is the feedback forum, it's not all going to be positive.

 

[RossDuggan]

Just thought I'd put this out there, Dialatic's OP is mostly correct. People are just getting overly defensive.

Read over a couple of points. And this^

People are so butt hurt. But Mike is actually speaking the truth.

Edit. DW, JohnK is licking arse for mod.

 

[JohnK]

There's no spite here, it's criticism to help the site.

lol ok ya the best way you can help the site is by leaving.

 

lol ok ya the best way you can help the site is by leaving.

I'm actively trying to help the site with my past suggestion, and this feedback thread. You honestly can't say that Sythe isn't dying. It's statistically proven if you look at any traffic graph.

Keep that shit in the spam forum.

 

[Punjabi3]

Why does everyone think Sythe can flourish for another 10 years, the fact is it can't. Every business reaches a point where it shuts down and will eventually happen to Sythe as well. The fact that Sythe operated for 7 years solely off of the runescape market is impressive. Take MMO for an example it died within 2 years and had to merge and powerbot which would have never been around without their bot (site died when bot died), I can also name loads of sites which died within a year of opening up.

Sythe doesn't have the time and money to invest which he did back when Sythe was at its peak, with a dieing game comes dieing forums and no matter what you guys do with community development in the end the only one who can make a a change is Sythe and he knows about the life cycle of a business and the point at which his business is at.

There are two approaches to a dieing business either you shut it down and save your money, or you invest more to attempt to bring the business back up to its peak which can be far more expensive than just shutting down.

I've told x339 this as well all these changes you guys are trying to make are just a waste of time because if the staff oppose it and Sythe won't invest in it nothing will change. If you do not enjoy how the forum is run there is no point in making these threads because its been proven in the past these threads don't work.

x339 only made one good thread worth reading which was the one where he mentioned a few examples of sites which have taken on a good approach to marketing, forum design, etc. If these threads don't show examples all you have is ones word which is hardly worth investing in for Sythe. x339 needs to suck it up and learn nothing will change, all this time he is wasting is adding more to his sunk costs he's already contributed to the forum and you are just digging the same hole he is which leads no where.

 

[Corey]

If the staff was so corrupt and everything, you wouldn't have requested to return. You are simply acting out just because you were denied.

You being denied had nothing to do with dislike from any upper staff, and I'm being 100% honest when I say that. If you wish to know the real reason, feel free to PM an administrator and ask.

 

Why does everyone think Sythe can flourish for another 10 years, the fact is it can't. Every business reaches a point where it shuts down and will eventually happen to Sythe as well. The fact that Sythe operated for 7 years solely off of the runescape market is impressive. Take MMO for an example it died within 2 years and had to merge and powerbot which would have never been around without their bot (site died when bot died), I can also name loads of sites which died within a year of opening up.

Sythe doesn't have the time and money to invest which he did back when Sythe was at its peak, with a dieing game comes dieing forums and no matter what you guys do with community development in the end the only one who can make a a change is Sythe and he knows about the life cycle of a business and the point at which his business is at.

There are two approaches to a dieing business either you shut it down and save your money, or you invest more to attempt to bring the business back up to its peak which can be far more expensive than just shutting down.

I've told x339 this as well all these changes you guys are trying to make are just a waste of time because if the staff oppose it nothing will change. If you do not enjoy how the forum is run there is no point in making these threads because its been proven in the past these threads don't work.

x339 only made one good thread worth reading which was the one where he mentioned a few examples of sites which have taken on a good approach to marketing, forum design, etc. If these threads don't show examples all you have is ones word which is hardly worth investing in for Sythe. x339 needs to suck it up and learn nothing will change, all this time he is wasting is adding more to his sunk costs he's already contributed to the forum and you are just digging the same hole he is which leads no where.

This will probably be my last feedback thread judging by the turn out. But even if it's dying, there are things we can do to improve it and bring activity back.

If the staff was so corrupt and everything, you wouldn't have requested to return. You are simply acting out just because you were denied.

You being denied had nothing to do with dislike from any upper staff, and I'm being 100% honest when I say that. If you wish to know the real reason, feel free to PM an administrator and ask.

No one will tell me. I'm not acting out this way. All of these reasons are why I resigned, and why I started Primody. Then I figured I'd come back here and help with my suggestions, which is what this is.

 

[Karl]

the only reason why vB4 hasn't happened is because of the theme, just saying

This thread is retarded because it creates drama for no reason.

 

the only reason why vB4 hasn't happened is because of the theme, just saying

This thread is retarded because it creates drama for no reason.

If a site has a feedback section then they should be able to handle it without attacking the thread starter.

 

[Punjabi3]

This will probably be my last feedback thread judging by the turn out. But even if it's dying, there are things we can do to improve it and bring activity back.

No there isn't unless Sythe is willing to invest in advertising which I highly doubt he is the only return you will see with community development is the same few members become more active or the vaders stay longer before they scam.

 

It's kind of funny how all members support this so far, all moderators don't support it, and all ex-moderators are split.

You all need to open your eyes. There are things we can do to make the site more popular, but no one will take the suggestions.

 

[Corey]

This thread is retarded because it creates drama for no reason.

Good point.

Closed.