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  1. Unread #1 - Apr 28, 2020 at 8:04 AM
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    They all claim to be the cheapest but have no pricing available to cross reference.
    They all want you to join their discord and open a ticket.
    Or, they all want you to PM them.

    ALL of the threads in those sections are essentially just a hyperlink to a discord server or website.

    By the time you go through this process you've spent 20-30 minutes finding out that none of the people who advertise they're the cheapest, are in fact the cheapest. They're all more expensive than the next and after all this stuff around you still don't have someone to complete your order.

    By having the prices readily available you're able to make a decision there and then and choose to place your order, not stuff around for half an hour.
     
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    I support. Though it really didn't take me too long to join a few servers and find one cheap enough to do work for me.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Apr 28, 2020 at 3:16 PM
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    You can always make a thread asking people to do your service and post their quotes below...

    But to your suggestion, it's impossible for service providers to offer estimates for every service since every customer and every account is different. No support.
     
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    Most of them say DM, join our discord or link a website in those threads too.

    There’s only a couple of variances really...

    Pest control:
    - Beginner
    - Intermediate
    - Veteran

    It’s based of combat levels so really there should only be three different prices...

    Barb Assault:
    - 70 Cmb
    - 70+ Cmb

    Skilling:
    - Everyone should know their personal rates gp/xp...

    Quests:
    - Everyone should have their set price list, prices shouldn’t vary based on combat/account unless it’s a master quest.
    - Packages bgloves/mgloves/DT etc
    - Master quests such as MM2/DS2/Sote etc is quite easy to determine prices with combat/stat brackets.

    Of course then they would have their iron/hardcore iron differences, again very easy to create a template for this.


    By having the prices be shown, it’s allowing the customer to browse and know exactly where they stand and what they’re expecting to pay for their service.

    Also, have you seen the threads where people request services? They all battle each other for the lowest price, then in the end OP generally gets scammed because they choose the lowest of low quotes from newcomers or people who aren’t established trying to make a quick buck...
     
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    No support unless ALL Market sections add this as well. I don't want to have to travel to discords, DM them, or go to their actual website to find out how much it's going to cost me/how much I will make from them.
     
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    No support, so much of pricing is dynamic that's why a lot of the time providers don't choose to put prices on threads.

    My prices fluctuate few times a day and im sure its same with many others.
     
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    I'll make this easy... it is a "free trade" market. You can say almost anything you want to try to get more trades. No one here is going to require pricing to be 100% open. No support.
     
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    No support. Briefly I should mention as a service provider for a short while now, I've seen so many people hop on the cheapest threads only to get scammed. It's worth your time investing a little more sometimes to guarantee you won't be scammed and more importantly the work is done. Also the thing with discords is a market strategy of some sort, to retain their customers.
     
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    Support from me. If they can't include a concrete price because of fluctation, maybe mandating a range would be very beneficial - this is in regards to basic selling/buying gp. I currently only tend to interact with the service providers who already include a range on their thread.

    I do agree that for skilling/minigames this is much more harder to do.
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Apr 28, 2020 at 7:56 PM
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    Well, I’m specifically talking about the markets I use but it could be the case to add this to all markets.

    What makes your prices fluctuate? If you’re doing say ‘Dragon Slayer’ quest or barbarian assault mini game why would your prices need to be changed? What makes it different that you need to change prices.

    By having prices available it also stops the supplier/service provider wasting time replying to tickets/DM’s of someone who isn’t going to use the service after getting the quote...

    I really don’t see a bad side to it.. in any business time = money whether it is virtual or physical.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Apr 28, 2020 at 7:58 PM
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    Problem is, some providers do work per hour or per specific based on levels. You can't price something that is extremely specific prior to knowing specifications
     
  23. Unread #12 - Apr 28, 2020 at 8:01 PM
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    If their services are priced accordingly and their customer services is good, hey guess what? The customer will most probably return, they will most likely recommend that persons services too... if you do a service and the customer doesn’t return it’s probably because your service was shit or wasn’t fairly priced...

    I got three quotes from “cheapest mini games” service providers... for torso and full void on a combat 70..

    I got quotes of up to 120m from them, I had the service done by a reputable service provider for 43m for both - tell me again how awesome it is that these people claim they are the cheapest to string you in and waste your time.

    I’ve addressed the cheapest/scam issue above - this isn’t about that.

    This is about face value, choosing someone you’re comfortable with and having the pricing readily available to save time and effort on both sides of the trade.

    the only fluctuation in quest prices should be iron/hardcore, no prayer options and low combat for master quests. Every other quest shouldn’t fluctuate at all, period.

    It’s the same for pest control. The prices shouldn’t only fluctuate between boat level.. there shouldn’t be a difference in price if you’re in veteran boat and maxed combats vs in veteran boat and only 80/80/80 stats.

    Barbarian assault - the only difference is combat/stats so there really shouldn’t be too many variants here... it’s pretty easy to set price brackets.


    Uh..
    Skill = 2m/hr @50
    = 1.8m/hr @70

    Skill = 1-60 @ 7gp/xp

    so on and so forth... really is it that hard to grasp?
     
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  25. Unread #13 - Apr 28, 2020 at 8:29 PM
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    This is a lot harder then you make it seem. Almost every account is different, and skills play a huge role in quotes. I normally only deal with Ironman / hcim services, but every quote is different which is why i can't display prices. Agility lvl, hp level, prayer lvl, combat stats, items available such as energy pots, ppots, teleports all play a huge role in ironman services. Though this is different for normal account services, most of what i said still plays a huge role into a quote/price. Completing monkey madness on a fresh pure with no combat or prayer is different from completing it on a level'd pure with overheads.

    When it comes to doing skill quotes, the method plays a huge role for example... crafting. Does the person want to use cutting gems to gain xp? or crafting hides? making molten glass?
    This goes for every skill, magic methods you have splashing, bursting, superheat, alching, stunning, teleing or shit all of them together... it would be far to hard to make a quote for everything.

    To touch a little on pest control most providers do have set prices for this, with the only variation of skiller or special accounts that only want to do the repair method. Though only displaying a little of your prices and not all of them on a thread may make customers think that you only offer that certain service, seeing as you don't have prices for other services.
    Lastly gp prices changes daily, which is why the majority of gold buyers/sellers display a large range of "buying gp for .6-.7/m" would you want service providers to put doing pest control boats for 90-190k a point? i know i'm exaggerating on this but i don't see this happening

    fyi i don't know have the best english pls dont bash me
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Apr 28, 2020 at 8:51 PM
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    I see what you mean, but once again those options are all easily described in a thread.

    Crafting:

    - Leathers 12gp/xp
    - Glass blowing 25gp/xp
    - Cutting gems 4gp/xp

    etc etc I'm honestly surprised no one does this already... If you already have all of your services and prices listed out you weed out window shoppers and most communication you will be doing is allocating orders/accepting orders rather than reply to this question, reply to that question.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Apr 28, 2020 at 9:09 PM
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    free advertisement but @Dbuffed has prices in his threads seen here for example - ⭐Buffed Levelling Services | 10% OFF 99! | 400+ Vouches | ALL Account Types | Hand Done ⭐

    but to answer your question in short, if a service provider added every available option to the thread you would have a super long overwhelming text block like this

    Crafting-
    Cutting sapphire gems - ?gp/xp
    emerald gems- ?gp/xp
    ruby gems - ?gp/xp
    diamond gems- ?gp/xp
    crafting cow hides- ?gp/xp
    green dragon leather- ?gp/xp
    blue - ?gp/xp
    red- ?gp/xp
    black -?gp/xp
    crafting air battlestaves - ?gp/xp
    water - ?gp/xp
    earth - ?gp/xp
    fire nation - ?gp/xp
    blowing pipe - ?gp/xp
    blowing vials - ?gp/xp
    blowing lens - ?gp/xp
    blowing orbs - ?gp/xp
    and... ect i'm not going to put them all down but 99% of the time the customer doesn't know whats best for their budget. And almost every customer has a budget, which is why people like @Yellow_Hat_OSRS_Services puts a range in his quotes "$1-400" - YH because it all depends on the method and budget of the customer. Do you want the job to take 1 week or 1 month? this could ultimately affect the price. When people come to me for iron services, sometimes i ask if they have a budget, because i can get the job done super fast, or super slow.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Apr 28, 2020 at 9:14 PM
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    Haha just to clarify though when I say $1-400 I mean $100-400 XD not $1 lololol

    Thanks for the free advert booty boo bear.


    Yeah pricing every little thing floods your thread with so much its hard for a client to calculate then they expect it to be those exact rates no matter what the situation is and can offend them.

    + generally my higher end of the pricing for example $100-400 id be doing the service personally at $400 compared to the $100 to an employee / me afking my balls off.

    YH
     
  33. Unread #17 - Apr 28, 2020 at 9:14 PM
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    Appreciated brother.

    And I completely agree with you, I got some workers who do ~10 hours a day, and some who do ~18 hours a day, it all varies on the task at hand and pricing etc :)
     
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    Now that I have commented to @Pirate

    I'll make some things very simple for anyone to understand.

    online calc - Google Search - This is a google chrome calculator, anyone can google "online calc"

    Experience/Table these are the EXP charts, if you are on a specific budget, and you know what you roughly want to spend or need to know what would cost via someone's gp/xp instead of a specific price which let's say some people in cases like myself and @Yellow_Hat_OSRS_Services do tend to go fastest>slowest for better customer completion then it should come with no surprise you are having downtime adding it up.

    I have always been more than happy to add things up if people cannot or are quite simply too lazy to do it, but I do not leave it on their thread.

    They are free to use my GP/XP and base what they feel it should be worth, as our prices are based off around/if not lower than other majorly trusted services.

    - No support for having to actually fill in and calculate something that is "free market"


    EDIT - If you're referring to the annoying shits who post their discord links too, yes I can get behind and support that as it's annoying I agree. I have my yellow name (#1 infernos/OSRS Services) that links to my discord, and also my signature that links to it, that should be enough.
     
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  37. Unread #19 - Apr 28, 2020 at 9:38 PM
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    Haha yeah posting discord links 24/7 without quoting is mental,

    For a team that runs like @Dbuffed its much more efficient to run Gold per xp and allows workers + clients to both see the value and edit if needed.

    For me its more complicated since I do alot of the end game bossing and skilling myself and hard to price it spread out on the thread xdddd

    Would be nice to have a model built for it maybe one day xD

    Or if I ever get a manager to do stuff REEEEEE

    For now its Slave Hat.

    Dbuffed lets watch 12 monkeys together im addicted atm.

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    This is silly to think that people are gonna ask for 50-99 doing cow hides... People who do services know the most commonly asked services and/or methods in getting the job done whether for time or for price.

    For that they can quote, and there is the little thing called spoilers.. They can have one for each skill with the information regarding pricing in the spoiler - it only needs to be done once.

    If you do a quote and start on that quote, the price shouldn't charge even if it takes you longer/costs you more to complete. Simple.

    Not asking you to fill in and calculate EVERYTHING, I'm asking for price guidelines.

    Literally every thread in those sections are a picture with a discord link.
     
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