Culling sythechat

Lean · Mar 14, 2016

n4n0 said:
Discord has a buddy list coming soon

Alright, cool

iJava · Mar 14, 2016

SytheChat could've worked if...

it didn't look like a turtle coming out a giraffes mouth
it was more user friendly
it was on the forums like facebook chat (don't say that the reason you didnt do this is cause you wanted the homepage to load fast, you could've loaded the site and chat independantly of each other)
it had features which made using sythe easier and safer
i was mod

MohtasaUnique · Mar 14, 2016

Miss-implemented, it was supposed to be a facebook style omnipresent private chat service with capabilities to group chat, or local chat.

Something that doesn't require effort, however small, to access (even a link on the home page to another page), something that is there and notifies you for new messages, and is immediately connected when you log into sythe

Xier0 · Mar 14, 2016

MohtasaUnique said:
Miss-implemented, it was supposed to be a facebook style omnipresent private chat service with capabilities to group chat, or local chat.

Something that doesn't require effort, however small, to access (even a link on the home page to another page), something that is there and notifies you for new messages, and is immediately connected when you log into sythe

Nailed it. It's not like Twitch's IRC & other on site chat platforms are unpopular.

Sythe · Mar 14, 2016

MohtasaUnique said:
Miss-implemented, it was supposed to be a facebook style omnipresent private chat service with capabilities to group chat, or local chat.

Something that doesn't require effort, however small, to access (even a link on the home page to another page), something that is there and notifies you for new messages, and is immediately connected when you log into sythe

People go to an effort to download an install and secure skype. I don't think effort is the problem. The problem is adoption. People already have a chat platform of choice (skype) and that's what their chat partners/trade partners also have.

Sythechat was a Jabber server setup to interface with the sythe database. Any Jabber client could connect and I made efforts to encourage people to use it in this way. The web chat interface was just that: a web client.

No one used it because no one wants or needs it. They have one or more chat solutions already that they are happy with such as: skype, facebook messenger, discord, etc. We were trying to launch an unneeded product into an over-serviced / saturated market. You can always say the implementation could have been cleaner, faster, better, etc. but this is just another way of saying that it's not really needed. In other words it would have to be so amazing that it would pull people away from their established and familiar chat solutions.

As far as what people really want when they say they want sythe chat: They want a stupid IRC with Sythe users but not Sythe rules to muck around in and call each-other faggots. We can't provide this because people will naturally complain that Sythe rules aren't being enforced, and that XYZ who was banned is still on chat and then they insinuate that if we let them remain on chat when they are banned then we are corrupt.

It's not a problem that needs a solution from us. If you want a group chat to dick around in you have 100,000 options available including the unofficial discord Ryan just set up.

Wonderland · Mar 14, 2016

Sythe said:
People go to an effort to download an install and secure skype. I don't think effort is the problem. The problem is adoption. People already have a chat platform of choice (skype) and that's what their chat partners/trade partners also have.

Sythechat was a Jabber server setup to interface with the sythe database. Any Jabber client could connect and I made efforts to encourage people to use it in this way. The web chat interface was just that: a web client.

No one used it because no one wants or needs it. They have one or more chat solutions already that they are happy with such as: skype, facebook messenger, discord, etc. We were trying to launch an unneeded product into an over-serviced / saturated market. You can always say the implementation could have been cleaner, faster, better, etc. but this is just another way of saying that it's not really needed. In other words it would have to be so amazing that it would pull people away from their established and familiar chat solutions.

As far as what people really want when they say they want sythe chat: They want a stupid IRC with Sythe users but not Sythe rules to muck around in and call each-other faggots. We can't provide this because people will naturally complain that Sythe rules aren't being enforced, and that XYZ who was banned is still on chat and then they insinuate that if we let them remain on chat when they are banned then we are corrupt.

It's not a problem that needs a solution from us. If you want a group chat to dick around in you have 100,000 options available including the unofficial discord Ryan just set up.

I think the aesthetic part was a big reason as to why it wasn't used as much. If skype looked like how sythe chat looked, i'm sure it would be in the same situation. It was primed to fail anyways unfortunately

Sythe · Mar 14, 2016

Ghast said:
I think the aesthetic part was a big reason as to why it wasn't used as much. If skype looked like how sythe chat looked, i'm sure it would be in the same situation. It was primed to fail anyways unfortunately

IRC looks like absolute shit in every client I've ever used yet that's still amazingly popular