In MY opinion, an "atheist" is the most retarded person of all. Sure believing in some flying spaghetti monster jebus and god is a bit silly. But making a group for NOT believing in someone? That's just retarded. The fact that there is an actual group for people who do not believe in an idea is mind boggling. The only reason it exsist is so people can think they're cool, and they want to be controversial. I don't believe in anything, but I don't need to go shove it in anyones face either with anything. Anyone who considers themself an atheist is a retard and just starting to spart debate/controversy. You will find that all people who actually call themself "atheist" want to discuss it and talk about it all the time. Just big bunch of immature nerds.
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I agree with the person a few posts above me. I don't need an argument to NOT believe in fairy tales.
By putting yourself in a group, you're doing exactly that.
Like in my post, retard nerd, trying to be controversial.
Why do you need to be in a group to NOT believe in something? Please explain that.
I don't like strawberries, let's make a group!
Like in my post, retard nerd, trying to be controversial.
Why do you need to be in a group to NOT believe in something? Please explain that.
I don't like strawberries, let's make a group!
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I'll invite you to mine! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2307157305
It's the same thing as being in a group TO believe in something. It's just a group of people who all share similar ideas. Why does it matter if it's to believe in something or to not believe in something?
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And because the world is filled with people who believe in fairy tales. IN FACT, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS, but a majority of the world DOES believe in fairy tales. Sorry, but common sense tells me if you're in the minority, a label is needed to separate yourselves from the ignorant majority.
Atheism isn't a "group," it's a term that is used to describe those who don't believe in god.
So, you're an atheist.
So, you're a retarded, immature nerd?
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By definition, you are an atheist even if you do not tell people you are. I personally debate and talk about it a lot because the whole idea of religion and belief in interesting to me and everyone has a different view that I would like to know. I believe that there isn't a god. Some atheists just do not believe in a god. You can not be a true atheist if you are only doing it to be controversial and if you are implying that all atheists are frauds, then you are completely mistaken because as now there are no facts to suggest that a god exists so I do not believe in one. Truly for no other reason than I believe it is the truth.
You're both wrong.
When you say, "I am an atheist", you're grouping yourself.
Hell, look at the title of this thread, he spelled atheist with an A, capitalized, signifying that it's a group. I don't put myself in any faggoty group. I don't know if there's a god or not, I don't give a shit. I just don't pay attention to it or care. If you strongly don't believe, then why care! Why group yourself!
You're all just a bunch of nerds, trying to sound controversial and intelligent.
When you say, "I am an atheist", you're grouping yourself.
Hell, look at the title of this thread, he spelled atheist with an A, capitalized, signifying that it's a group. I don't put myself in any faggoty group. I don't know if there's a god or not, I don't give a shit. I just don't pay attention to it or care. If you strongly don't believe, then why care! Why group yourself!
You're all just a bunch of nerds, trying to sound controversial and intelligent.
On topic: you just grouped yourself with people who don't believe in grouping themselves. Gratz.
There is an internal inconsistency in his argument that equates describing something to creating a group. By claiming that he is a person who doesn't like putting himself in a group, he put himself in a group (if you use his terms).
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Can we please stop using words like "retard" in our posts. It's incredibly offensive to me and many others.
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By DEFINITION if you do not believe in god, you are an atheist (or agnostic depending on the specifics of your belief). You can not say I do not believe in god but I am not an atheist. That is a controdiction of the definition of the word. You do not have to "place" yourself in the "group" of atheists to actually be one.
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By DEFINITION if you do not believe in god, you are an atheist (or agnostic depending on the specifics of your belief). You can not say I do not believe in god but I am not an atheist. That is a controdiction of the definition of the word. You do not have to "place" yourself in the "group" of atheists to actually be one.
Exactly.
Here's a really simple example for you, Kevin:
I am an unmarried man. That makes me a bachelor, whether or not I tell people that.
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Entertaining as that was to read, forum-banned from sfa.
It's the fact that there are so many religious people causes people to identify themselves as someone who does not subscribe to the belief that say, there is an all-powerful old man in the sky. Nobody shoves anything in anyone's face - the term "atheist" is synonymous with the phrase "I am not religious". It's no different from the term "cold" being an absence of heat.
It isn't a group, merely the lack of belief in god(s). You could say that because they are all atheists, they are "grouped together" but you can group anyone with similarities together under one banner. I don't see your problem.
I'd like to see where our world would be if education that permits religion taught "God" for 6 months and "No God" for the following 6 months...with the process repeating.
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I don't know about Atheism. I have the type of mind that strives for knowledge from whichever source. I admit that my rationalist principles have often steered me towards a dismissal of the divine, but the other side of me just keeps pushing towards some greater understanding. I have long rejected standard conceptions of God. That will always remain true. However, I find that the most fascinating and deep perceptions of infinity and the universe lie in the unique understandings of God contributed by various thinkers. I have not yet been totally satisfied by any conception of God, nor do I know if I ever will be, but I continue to dig deeper for knowledge -- and I really don't regret that at all.
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Being a agnostic myself I find it hard to understand someone who is atheist, can someone explain to me why they are atheist and not agnostic?
An atheist is a person who does not believe in deities. You can be both an agnostic and an atheist - if you do not happen to believe in any deities, but believe that the existence of a deity is unknowable. An atheist is merely someone who does not believe in deities - that's it.
This article may be of help: http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm
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Agnosticism really is much more confusing than atheism. Atheism only comes in two different forms: lack of belief in a god or the assertion that one does not exist. Now if you bring agnosticism into the mix you can get into all sorts of philosophical arguments about belief and knowledge and the such but I find those rather pointless.
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