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  1. Unread #1 - Jul 23, 2020 at 3:04 PM
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    Appeal due to false information

    Please disregard my previous rambling thread(s)

    So first of all, let me first say I have not "doxed" anyone ever. I know how it comes across and I would like to have validation that it is in fact the person who reported me if a admin can confirm - As he even said himself he was "baiting me"

    I just cant wrap my head around the point of him posting from his apparent personal identity, confirming who he is on the platform (fb not Sythe) then getting annoyed for being asked to confirm, where is the logic/reasonable explanation for declining beyond bad intention?

    Imagine if he HAD scammed, what then? The guy would have leaked his information to kingdom come and would have most likely been handed the same fate for being scammed - If anything, I tried to prevent it, maybe in the wrong way sort of awkwardly... But still tried to prevent none the less.

    He listed his sythe, told us to contact him for verification/confirmation and then claimed it's a dox, sorry but I just cant get my head around it. Imagine if the sale did go ahead, he would link his vouch thread for the user to comment on - Isn't that exactly the same principle?

    If this is the case, and he is baiting people to contact him, then what happens if the user he was trying to buy $1k+ worth of gold off got scammed? We should just allow that because the person claimed to be him then blocked someone after he said he would verify and they asked?

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    So let me go again into this - You can see, he mentions he will "verify" himself, and when he was asked to by me he ignored me as he mentioned himself, I state that I have PM'ed him to confirm as well and oh what do you know he blocks me - How is this not sketchy? The user who he was asking to buy gold off could have just been scammed, but due to me requesting verification and him replying with his Sythe name of who to PM that could have been avoided.

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    I think it goes without saying, I have traded Luck in the past -

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    Keep in mind, this isn't the only trade we have discussed as there are more recent ones.

    The point I am making is it's general knowing that you confirm things when you trade people for their safety and knowing that they are not being scammed - Instead of replying "yeah i'm X" or so on, he blocked me which was in fact very dodgy - I don't see how I was being weird by asking for a reply to verification.

    Now i'll get to the main part I guess, yes I accidentally leaked his name in a snippet, which I fully agree I should be punished for and I have openly said that - @video did give me a verbal warning, which apparently wasn't enough for Luck and he instead quoted that he was "baiting me"

    Now if knowing someone's name is a dox, then we're all guilty. How many of us know each others personal names for whatever reason if it being a PayPal payment, or actual personal friends - We would all be guilty if that is the case none the less there for we should all be banned.

    Now I want to get to the point @Gladiator made, and I quote -

    There is no SIMILAR offence, either it is the same thing or it's something else completely and going by what @Pendulum said to me on discord I feel that you are using it as an excuse to bargain a ban just to get rid of me for no real reason which is again unjustified.

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    You can see here, Pend said himself, although I did not "DOX", I did know his personal information, which I freely admitted in a report over 3 years ago as found here - Dispute against a donation rank , again i'll question why was this not handled back on the date this happened? and why was it ruled as not being able to be visited for evidence again but yet you are holding it in the air as valid evidence? Either it is or it isn't.

    I got IP banned on OSbot for stating I do not bot my services and providing proof to it, I came to Sythe and made a "review" which @Gladiator took down (what a surprise, hands me this ban, that and anything else with the sake of disliking me, when really you shouldn't be allowed to involve yourself in such with bias)

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    Why would you go out of your way to re-investigate something that happened 3 years ago and was announced as no longer being able to be used as valid proof? You can see him saying there "i am going to report you and try get you banned",

    You can also see, he mentioned if I don't like the outcome of what happens with OSBot I am more than welcome to edit my threads back to the original statements I had up, which of course is in fact blackmail.

    I gave a valid appeal last time as I will now as shown below -


    Ban information / Admin input please - My original appeal about Mald, it literally makes no sense at all on the ban for that, as shown in the first picture right at the top of the thread it was mentioned that it cannot be used as it was so long ago.

    The 2 month length came after I mentioned if anyone wanted to ban me and get it over and done with as a "ruling" if you will then what I should in fact be banned for - Ban information / Admin input please I understand correcting things like this made me sound very egotistical but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

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    Appealing additional time - This was for trying to contact a user who was a threat, by all means I get that and that was justified, completely deserved.
    Looked into this a bit - Again was handed a wrong ban length, had to get it adjusted as well.

    Now then, please remove this image below because I do not know if the so called leaked information has been removed, I am just using this as an example to show you exactly what I am on about -

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    The group is open for anyone to see with or without joining it, and that person in the post at the bottom of this picture is the guy I was trying to protect via verifying.

    I know that it was wrong for me to troll about being blocked, and even further more to post a snippet of my replies saying the following -

    10-15 minutes past, he is seemingly still active.

    This was my replies left to him before he blocked me for apparently being "weird" for asking for verification that he claimed he would provide. Again I do not feel that me asking for verification that he said he would do himself is anything weird.

    He posted the quote above (the one about being able to buy, having 3800+ vouches etc) which I followed up with "I have a Sythe account, what's your name?" and he replied "Luck" and then the quotes above happened, I do hope you can see why I took it as a troll/impostor when he blocked me, and took it as a joke that could be prodded/laughed about as it just seemed out of place all together.

    As I say, and I don't agree with my posting so let's get that clear - It was not intentional, literally as soon as it was posted I removed it straight away and I know that's besides the point because I still did it (even though I thought it was a troll, shouldn't have happened either way)

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    @video warned me a few minutes later after it was removed and such because I can say without a shadow of a doubt it wasn't my intention to "leak" if you want to class it that, an actual Sythe member. I was more memeing about being blocked.

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    You can see here, he made fun of it himself which can be taken any given way. There is nothing to say it's his real name, but that isn't relevant to the point at hand, it was leaked unintentionally along with my own profile and my picture etc (only his name got shown, nothing more)

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    You can see I even tried to type it out but it was very confusing due to the copy and paste and that's when the cropped picture took place, again wasn't intentional.

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    ^ That's exactly what I did, and didn't censor certain parts due to not really looking properly until it was posted and removed within seconds.

    Again - This was a simple mistake on my end, one of which I do not hold lightly as it shouldn't have happened to begin with and I shouldn't have been making fun of it.

    But to use mald report from 3 and some years ago on me when it was ruled out as no longer being active for evidence is just uncalled for, as it was not doxing nothing was released and nothing was given to anyone to do anything malicious at all, all it was, was me simply being a dumb person pming someone I shouldn't have and I got a year ban on OSBot over it, I served my time and was reinstated around a year later - If there was an issue with me being on the forum why did that even happen? Why welcome me back that's what you need to ask... If that was the case, and the problem 3 and some years ago wasn't handled and put to bed, why was it used now.

    I even spoke to big Rich about the situation with the ban after I did my time (my sythe ban back in November) I cant find his discord so I cant show the chat, but i did mention it and that I felt it was uncalled for and explained why etc, and he said himself about me appealing it but it was no longer relevant. I don't wish to poke to bear, but as I say this isn't really called for, a perm ban is way over the top for my first real offence when there are others who have done it so many times.

    @BlackBlasses ruled a week ban (not sure if others were involved in that decision) which despite being upset/annoyed at all for something that was a clear bad mistake, I took it on the chin.

    - I just wish to have this properly reviewed, not handled as "oh you have done it before, here's a perm ban" when in fact I haven't done anything of the sort prior, yes i've done some dumb stuff but I haven't once leaked people's details to any extent beyond this 1 time of someone's name in a response I made (tagging their name automatically) which I hold myself responsible for.

    - Again if a admin could verify that it is the person, not saying i'm going to do anything with that information that would be appreciated, just for the simple fact I was blocked and mentioned being blocked in sythe discord and oh what a surprise he mentions blocking me on the thread soon after - This could easily be treated as him just wanting to get rid of a bit of competition and will lead to more people getting reported simply just possibly asking for verification.

    @video , @Gen @Pendulum , please deal with this only - I don't mind others accepting the thread and hiding the relevant stuff as requested, but beyond that I wish only to have your input.

    I would like to also keep in mind, that there are people who have done this sort of stuff, and actually fully done it fully posted doxes (not sure what they contain as they wasn't sent to me) and have been given many many chances - This is my first real crime if you will, and i'm being treated the same - I understand treating all the same in some sort for breaking the same rule, but this is beyond that.

    Sorry for this part but going again by sythe rules - The Official Sythe.org Rules

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    You are asking that we follow the rules, it states there that disclosing of such information in this case Facebook, I receive a 1 month ban and a DNT that has to be appealed, yet i'm permmed?

    This is what you tried to hold me liable for before -

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    Perm bans only happen on Sythe staff and such, 1 month for regular members.

    No Sythe staff member was done bad by me, and also not to mention I gave a valid reason for banning if anyone felt warranted - Sorry if it sounds like i'm being stuck up or something, but just trying to explain how the rules are looked at and you want us to follow.

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    Sorry to point this out, but as I say it is unreasonable as a first real offence, as the mald dispute was ruled out to not even be the same thing you cannot class it as "similar" as no one was contacted this time around like in his case, instead it was more me just asking for verification.

    I am more than happy to take the 1 month ban and whatever else that comes with it as mentioned in the rules, I am not quite sure how all that works with appeals and such so i'd have to take a further look - But again, I hope you can understand this wasn't malicious intent or me purposely trying to leak something that I shouldn't, but rules are rules and should be corrected in the appropriate way.

    Again - Please I want only admin input, you are welcome to censor the picture of the group shown near the top which I would appreciate if you could, as it does show one of many open groups and I do not wish for people's names to be spilled.

    I support the black market as best as I can, assist where I can and this was just one of those many cases - So out of respect for what I try to do, I would like my request upheld.

    Sorry for the giant read, I know it's a lot to go over, thank you for taking the time.
     
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    Appeal due to false information

    Hello @Dbuffed,

    To start this off, you do not get to pick and choose who handles your dispute. Nor is it really all that necessary in this instance, as your ban was discussed and decided on collectively by all staff members.

    Both this report and the prior one referenced in the decision showcase a distinct lack of respect for the personal information and privacy of other users, which is not something we can let slide regardless of the intentions behind your action. Again, this was decided on by the entire staff team collectively.

    You will need to request a pardon should you wish to return to Sythe. Please make sure to use the proper template found here when posting.
     
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