Anti scammers

[ipker]

I've been thinking about something considering people on here just keep changing ips new acxs And scam, i got Scammed twice by trusted people for over 250 euro, so i'be iT Some suggestions

Mac ban scammers.
Anti vpn gateway
And make a post, where f someone gets banned all accs he pisted Will be added on ignore lists INGAME, so if he changes names you can see, And know those accs not to trade with

( ctrl f the post And Search the name so no effort people to check)


greetings
Ipker10

 

I'm all for countering scammers,

Unfortunantly, keeping a list to track people and constantly updating it is not the way to go as it requires a LOT of effort.

That being said, they could just make a new acc

as for the other stuff IDK, i'm pretty sure someone will say something about "free market" tho

 

[ipker]

I'm all for countering scammers,

Unfortunantly, keeping a list to track people and constantly updating it is not the way to go as it requires a LOT of effort.

That being said, they could just make a new acc

as for the other stuff IDK, i'm pretty sure someone will say something about "free market" tho

Yes i know, after being Scammed twice i'm free if sythe admins need to keep hold of the list, if we would mac ban the scammers they would need new devices which would make the scammers reduce

 

Yes i know, after being Scammed twice i'm free if sythe admins need to keep hold of the list, if we would mac ban the scammers they would need new devices which would make the scammers reduce

I think mac banning would require users to download a file in under for our Mac address to be obtained. This would discourage people from joining the site for obvious reasons. Mac addresses are also very easy to change or fabricate I believe.

 

[mumble]

I think the main problem is trusting people so willingly with so much money, generally you can use a middle man or go in smaller increments if you don't trust someone, or simply if a deal is too good to be true, it probably is.

 

I have also been scammed. The Mac IP banning is a great idea, it is very hard to get rid of original mac ip from what i understand. But i believe there is no way atm without intruding on their PC. Meaning there could be a lot of risk for sythe to do so. And trust issues as well. The post of banned users or whatever is a good idea, but as said above. Would take a lot of effort as many people are being banned daily, many people are getting unbanned as well. Meaning a lot of editing and time will be used for individuals to keep track of reports/disputes. There could be an automatic "right click" option for mods to add their names on a post maybe. But then that also makes syfiend have to put that option on here. Which im sure adding such thing wouldnt be used as often since sythe has been out for awhile and many mods/admins are pretty used to how things are.

 

[ipker]

Ok , thanks for all the feedback guys ill keep thinking maybe Well Find something thats easy doable which prevent scammers

 

[sweetletsgoman]

they need to keep a list, almost got scammed by someone

 

[Stream Punk]

It's pretty trivial to implement all of these suggestions. I've been trying to brainstorm ideas on how to fix the current issues with scammers. Because EVERY single day since I joined there have been 2-3 people (SAME guys) scamming, and creating a brand new acc on a VPN, scamming again, repeat. I can't imagine how long it's been going on. If there was a real fix I'm sure the staff/mods here would have already suggested it.

- Lists won't help and will be too time consuming (there are so many scam reports daily), they just create a new account sythe, skype, email, rsn changes/new rsn account.
- Changing the MAC IP is very easy to do
- I agree that allowing VPN's allow for scammers to run rampant. In my opinion, All users should be given "NMU - Non Market User" tag by default, until they post from a Home IP.


The real fix is to aware all sythe users, especially the new ones, about the dangers of trading here and how to take all measures to make it so that they don't get scammed. It's really easy to jump onto this site and assume that scamming is a rare occurrence which just isn't the case.

 

It's pretty trivial to implement all of these suggestions. I've been trying to brainstorm ideas on how to fix the current issues with scammers. Because EVERY single day since I joined there have been 2-3 people (SAME guys) scamming, and creating a brand new acc on a VPN, scamming again, repeat. I can't imagine how long it's been going on. If there was a real fix I'm sure the staff/mods here would have already suggested it.

- Lists won't help and will be too time consuming (there are so many scam reports daily), they just create a new account sythe, skype, email, rsn changes/new rsn account.
- Changing the MAC IP is very easy to do
- I agree that allowing VPN's allow for scammers to run rampant. In my opinion, All users should be given "NMU - Non Market User" tag by default, until they post from a Home IP.


The real fix is to aware all sythe users, especially the new ones, about the dangers of trading here and how to take all measures to make it so that they don't get scammed. It's really easy to jump onto this site and assume that scamming is a rare occurrence which just isn't the case.

Should just give twc to all users using vpn, or a new tag for that so people know they're upto something

 

Should just give twc to all users using vpn, or a new tag for that so people know they're upto something

This I can support. But only if the account was made on a vpn and is primarily used on a VPN

 

This I can support. But only if the account was made on a vpn and is primarily used on a VPN

Would defeat the purpose of it, but i would agree to add a home ip verification process or something to remove that twc in case you have a valid reason to use it. Not sure how exactly it would go though

 

[Pain]

I still don't know why we cant just block users from logging in physical accounts from a vpn/proxy ip.

"The IP logging in has been detected as a vpn/proxy IP, login failed"

Restrict logging in as a member to non-vpn and proxy ip's and leave it alone for guests.

I've never understood what the problem is with this, if you cant login via a vpn or proxy then you've probably did something wrong on this forum anyway.

It wont hurt traffic because we allow guests to still visit from these ip's, they just cant register/login from them.

Literally would essentially remove the entire ban evasion and hacking problem in 1 shot, if it annoys a couple members who only login via vpns/proxys then make their lazy asses login from home, I mean the argument "People use vpns/proxys to login a lot" is just a stupid one.

The perks of restricting vpn/proxy logins would literally, remove ban evasion as a problem essentially, hackings aswell AND all the scams that happen due to evasion etc would be gone to.

These perks FAR outweigh the bitchy member that is annoyed because he cant get on from a proxy, I don't know why we cant do this.

 

[ipker]

I've forgetten something btw Guys people can ALSO change ips right?

 

[ipker]

And people please dont say people should be more carefull, people make accs donate 50$ fake vouches then scam like 500$ ITSS hard :/

 

I think mac banning would require users to download a file in under for our Mac address to be obtained. This would discourage people from joining the site for obvious reasons. Mac addresses are also very easy to change or fabricate I believe.

This is correct you need a file on your computer to be mac banned ,
I would support a vpn ban on site tho, as in you can't use a vpn what so ever,
but saying that someone with dymanic ip can just come back the next day with no issue

 

[Pain]

I still don't know why we cant just block users from logging in physical accounts from a vpn/proxy ip.

"The IP logging in has been detected as a vpn/proxy IP, login failed"

Restrict logging in as a member to non-vpn and proxy ip's and leave it alone for guests.

I've never understood what the problem is with this, if you cant login via a vpn or proxy then you've probably did something wrong on this forum anyway.

It wont hurt traffic because we allow guests to still visit from these ip's, they just cant register/login from them.

Literally would essentially remove the entire ban evasion and hacking problem in 1 shot, if it annoys a couple members who only login via vpns/proxys then make their lazy asses login from home, I mean the argument "People use vpns/proxys to login a lot" is just a stupid one.

The perks of restricting vpn/proxy logins would literally, remove ban evasion as a problem essentially, hackings aswell AND all the scams that happen due to evasion etc would be gone to.

These perks FAR outweigh the bitchy member that is annoyed because he cant get on from a proxy, I don't know why we cant do this.

@Sythe I would like to know if this is possible(above I quoted) & if u would be willing to do this? I am of the opinon there is potentially immense gain(almost 0 ban evasions, far less scams due to less evasions, harder to hack/stops hackings).

If it was left alone for guests it wouldn't damage traffic, if people are at their grandparents or whatever they can still just as easily login from their grandparents IP using their 2fa code, and SO FEW people go overseas and stuff that the perks far outweigh the drawbacks.
Thoughts?

 

[ipker]

@Sythe I would like to know if this is possible(above I quoted) & if u would be willing to do this? I am of the opinon there is potentially immense gain(almost 0 ban evasions, far less scams due to less evasions, harder to hack/stops hackings).

If it was left alone for guests it wouldn't damage traffic, if people are at their grandparents or whatever they can still just as easily login from their grandparents IP using their 2fa code, and SO FEW people go overseas and stuff that the perks far outweigh the drawbacks.
Thoughts?

Exactly i don't understand why people can logg on proxy's ( people Will find bypasses) but most of them Will be to dumb to use em, + every scammer less means x amount of people not getting scammed

 

[RS4Me]

And people please dont say people should be more carefull, people make accs donate 50$ fake vouches then scam like 500$ ITSS hard :/

It's fairly easy to spot fake vouches, but hard to know if someone has donated to scam.

All it take is for you to look at the so called vouches how old the accounts were, otherposts etc

 

[ipker]

It's fairly easy to spot fake vouches, but hard to know if someone has donated to scam.

All it take is for you to look at the so called vouches how old the accounts were, otherposts etc

Yes, but What i noticed at 'goldseller4all etc, that its one big scam group/hack group, they have alot of vouches and donations, but scam for nothing scammers ALSO farm accs just think we should make sure they cant come on here