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American Police State

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Another instance of police going to far, in this clip the man is killed.
 
AlpHaNiX said:
You clearly have done no research in specific cases such as Rodney King's.

Do you know what the term "subdued" means; suspect is handcuffed and in control.

As long as a man refuses to place his hands behind his back to he can be cuffed he is not subdued, and he still poses a threat to the officers trying to arrest him.

Lets look at some facts that where caused to his beating -


  • [*]On/Broke his parole
    [*]Under the influence of PCP and alcohol
    [*]Evading the police (speeding)
    [*]Wife beater

That, with the exception of other violations of the law / his parole, he also attempted to hit a female officer after pushing a male officer.

His beating wasn't deserved?

Maybe you need to also do some research on the drug "PCP" and figure out what it's ability's are while under the influence of it.
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none of those things warrant the police to break his legs and fracture his facial bones

it's not the job of police to beat people for violation of parole or assault and battery or being under the influence of alcohol

and the toxicology tests proved he was NOT under the influence of PCP, so you need to get YOUR facts straight, you clown
 
The Riddler_ said:
There was a potential threat. Which there is in anything. They took unneeded percautions toward "solving the problem". They could have just passed the people in the staircases, and let them be. But they followed them up the stairs, trapped them, and sprayed them.

And this was to multiple place. That was not the only one. Stop being so defensive. I'm not placing 100% of the blame on the police, I acknowledged that it could be mostly the fear of the riot. But I also know, that there is no need to corner students off, and spay them.
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How did they trap them? What stopped the students from listening to the police and go back inside?
 
jcash4991 said:
Another instance of police going to far, in this clip the man is killed.
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First, comparing us from London is like comparing us to Iraq.

He also only slightly pushed him, which is not excessive use of force.

MosDef said:
none of those things warrant the police to break his legs and fracture his facial bones

it's not the job of police to beat people for violation of parole or assault and battery or being under the influence of alcohol
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Actually, yes. Once officers have evidence that their or the life of others are endangered they have the authority to use as much force as necessary to contain the subject. However they are not allowed to draw weapons unless being drawn upon. All the force they used upon Rodney was inflicted onto himself.

MosDef said:
and the toxicology tests proved he was NOT under the influence of PCP, so you need to get YOUR facts straight, you clown
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You're a fucking idiot. Please leave this forum with your ignorance and intelligence of a 7-year-old.

The 90's PCP was fairly new to the community and was abused by African-Americans.

The crime rate of black's nearly doubled with the use of PCP. 90% of convicted felons, african-american where under the influence of PCP. Subjecting themselves to the danger of the drug that gave people "godlike" ability's.

People could tolerate exceeding amounts of pain, more then an average person could take if he wasn't experiencing the conditions of the drug.

They had no proof Rodney was not taking PCP at the time. His actions showed otherwise and gave them more evidence that he was then wasn't.

Maybe you need to get your facts straight. Idiot.
 
Police are simply citizens who are more equipped to fight crime than others. Do not regard them as anything more, because they are not. They have absolutely no judicial or executive power, either. They're basically tattletales employed by society. Not saying that's bad, but they often think they are in a higher position in this country than they truly are.
 
Straggler said:
Police are simply citizens who are more equipped to fight crime than others. Do not regard them as anything more, because they are not. They have absolutely no judicial or executive power, either. They're basically tattletales employed by society. Not saying that's bad, but they often think they are in a higher position in this country than they truly are.
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Township cops may not be, state cops are more then simple citizens.
 
AlpHaNiX said:
First, comparing us from London is like comparing us to Iraq.

He also only slightly pushed him, which is not excessive use of force.



Actually, yes. Once officers have evidence that their or the life of others are endangered they have the authority to use as much force as necessary to contain the subject. However they are not allowed to draw weapons unless being drawn upon. All the force they used upon Rodney was inflicted onto himself.



You're a fucking idiot. Please leave this forum with your ignorance and intelligence of a 7-year-old.

The 90's PCP was fairly new to the community and was abused by African-Americans.

The crime rate of black's nearly doubled with the use of PCP. 90% of convicted felons, african-american where under the influence of PCP. Subjecting themselves to the danger of the drug that gave people "godlike" ability's.

People could tolerate exceeding amounts of pain, more then an average person could take if he wasn't experiencing the conditions of the drug.

They had no proof Rodney was not taking PCP at the time. His actions showed otherwise and gave them more evidence that he was then wasn't.

Maybe you need to get your facts straight. Idiot.
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lmao you've got to be the most pseudo intellectual/ignorant clown on this board

you were clearly and plainly proven wrong and then you bring up some made up statistics about blacks and pcp that have absolutely no relevance in this discussion

you better not be older than 16, go finish your homework son
 
MosDef said:
lmao you've got to be the most pseudo intellectual/ignorant clown on this board

you were clearly and plainly proven wrong and then you bring up some made up statistics about blacks and pcp that have absolutely no relevance in this discussion

you better not be older than 16, go finish your homework son
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"Rodney King was a criminal, high on PCP. Anyone who has never dealt with a person on PCP would have a hard time understanding why six officers could not control this person. 15 years ago I worked in a county jail when a prisoner was brought in high on PCP. He was placed in a solitary cell for his own protection. He attempted to hang himself and required officers (approximately 8) to reenter his cell. The PCP gave him unbelievable strength and he felt no pain. Three officers were sent to the hospital. Understand that this was a controlled setting, Rodney King was in the general public and would have been even harder to manage. The reason these officers were found not guilty is because if you watch the video, the officers only struck Rodney King in pressure point strike zones in an attempt to get him to comply. He did not comply to officer commands and was repeatedly struck in an attempt to gain compliance and to insure officer safety. This was in accordance to police training. NOTE: They did use a Taser, but it was a first generation type that only worked on the pain compliance theory. With the PCP, Rodney King did not feel pain and therefore, pulled out the probes and beckoned the officers for more. Of course you didn't see this portion of the tape. The news media only showed a small section of the video tape and sensationalized this event for their own purposes.

Gtfo.

I can find articles about PCP and the dangers of it with Rodney King all day.
 
AlpHaNiX said:
"Rodney King was a criminal, high on PCP. Anyone who has never dealt with a person on PCP would have a hard time understanding why six officers could not control this person. 15 years ago I worked in a county jail when a prisoner was brought in high on PCP. He was placed in a solitary cell for his own protection. He attempted to hang himself and required officers (approximately 8) to reenter his cell. The PCP gave him unbelievable strength and he felt no pain. Three officers were sent to the hospital. Understand that this was a controlled setting, Rodney King was in the general public and would have been even harder to manage. The reason these officers were found not guilty is because if you watch the video, the officers only struck Rodney King in pressure point strike zones in an attempt to get him to comply. He did not comply to officer commands and was repeatedly struck in an attempt to gain compliance and to insure officer safety. This was in accordance to police training. NOTE: They did use a Taser, but it was a first generation type that only worked on the pain compliance theory. With the PCP, Rodney King did not feel pain and therefore, pulled out the probes and beckoned the officers for more. Of course you didn't see this portion of the tape. The news media only showed a small section of the video tape and sensationalized this event for their own purposes.

Gtfo.

I can find articles about PCP and the dangers of it with Rodney King all day.
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no one is debating the dangers of PCP

you stated that Rodney King was on PCP during the incident and it is proven fact that he was not

how about you post the link where you got that quote from because all respectable sources of information clearly state that the toxicology tests came back negative when tested for the presence of PCP

don't forget to show your work while you're completing your math homework, kid

http://tech.mit.edu/V113/N14/king.14w.html

here you go read that and educate yourself son

LMFAO

just googled that quote and it was a comment from some guy on Yahoo Answers

you've proven yourself to be quite the scholar
 
MosDef said:
no one is debating the dangers of PCP

you stated that Rodney King was on PCP during the incident and it is proven fact that he was not

how about you post the link where you got that quote from because all respectable sources of information clearly state that the toxicology tests came back negative when tested for the presence of PCP

don't forget to show your work while you're completing your math homework, kid

http://tech.mit.edu/V113/N14/king.14w.html

here you go read that and educate yourself son

LMFAO

just googled that quote and it was a comment from some guy on Yahoo Answers

you've proven yourself to be quite the scholar
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By this point you have proven you are obviously too old to be using a website for teenagers, stating you are at least 35+.

You post a internet article with misleading information.

I said he appeared to be on PCP at the time. Which his actions showed he was and they had no proof he wasn't until he got tested.

Pack your bags and get the fuck off of Sythe.
 
AlpHaNiX said:
By this point you have proven you are obviously too old to be using a website for teenagers, stating you are at least 35+.

You post a internet article with misleading information.

I said he appeared to be on PCP at the time. Which his actions showed he was and they had no proof he wasn't until he got tested.

Pack your bags and get the fuck off of Sythe.
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You don't need 6 men to beat and kick a man to subdue them. PCP or not.
 
AlpHaNiX said:
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/kingarrests.html

  • Already a convicted felon
  • Drunk
  • Angry
  • Evading police
  • Broken parole
  • Pushed 1 officer - attempted to hit another (female) officer
  • Refuses to be subdued
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Speed of chase, mind-state, or previous actions never condone a beating to subdue. A simple tase, or an easy take down, while 2 people hold him down, they could have just cuffed him. But cops came running at him OUT OF THE CAR to go and beat him.
 
The Riddler_ said:
Speed of chase, mind-state, or previous actions never condone a beating to subdue. A simple tase, or an easy take down, while 2 people hold him down, they could have just cuffed him. But cops came running at him OUT OF THE CAR to go and beat him.
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Once you threaten a officers life, as he hit one and attempted to hit another as much action as they want is allowed/
 
Terrankiller said:
They shouldn't be going into buildings and trapping innocent people. Then shooting tear gas at them.
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Repeating myself: How are they trapped? What stops them from going back inside their apartments?
 
Terrankiller said:
Ya. You didn't see the two cops on the top of the stairway?
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Right, just watched it again. Thanks for correcting that.

In any case though, they were gone two seconds later. And they used tear gas, which isn't that bad. Have you ever been exposed to tear gas?
 
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