Account Unlock Claim

Right, so the only issue i'm seeing here is that the account hasn't been returned to the customer- I know the insurance money was refunded, but the contract you all "signed" states that a refund will be refunded to the customer if the account can not be returned for LIFE. Pretty stupid imo, but it's what you all agreed on. Does the customer still not have it?

 

[Katanas]

Right, so the only issue i'm seeing here is that the account hasn't been returned to the customer- I know the insurance money was refunded, but the contract you all "signed" states that a refund will be refunded to the customer if the account can not be returned for LIFE. Pretty stupid imo, but it's what you all agreed on. Does the customer still not have it?

Thanks for the reply Pirate.
insurance total that is to be paid is $825. Mrpirex1 has paid $200/$825 of that insurance money and was waiting for your verdict to pay the rest.
Can also confirm that I, the buyer of the account, have not received the account since the lock occurred.

Also Pirate, can you please confirm Wel Rick (OO) and MrPirex1 (MM) currently owe me the remainder of the insurance money as per agreement in the contract ($625). Thank you for your time.

 

[MrPireX1]

Right, so the only issue i'm seeing here is that the account hasn't been returned to the customer- I know the insurance money was refunded, but the contract you all "signed" states that a refund will be refunded to the customer if the account can not be returned for LIFE. Pretty stupid imo, but it's what you all agreed on. Does the customer still not have it?

Hey Pirate. Thanks for the prompt response. Yes, in hindsight, was a stupid decision to MM this trade with $0 upside.

I do not cover bans on game accounts I sell and I always mention it voids any agreement but will support on good-will basis. This is also in line with one of previous Sythe verdict on banned accounts I linked earlier.

Anyhow, please drop your decision on reimbursement (None, partial refund, full refund or full refund divided between OO and MM).

 

[MrPireX1]

Given my busy IRL schedule, I am making a solution to resolve this issue. My liability on this given the facts should be $0 as some terms were breached making insurance invalid in my view.

If Sythe decides otherwise despite other precedence set, I am prepared to take partial responsibility (i.e. 50% of $825) and @Nanobot / @Biggiehiggie remaining. Repaid $200 which leaves me with $212.5. I am happy to reallocate my community repayment credit towards @Katana.

EDIT: This is the best I am willing to go for. If this is not something not in line w/ Sythe opinion, feel free to consider Ban/DNT, etc. Insurance would have been paid out fully w/o all this hassle had the account been stolen back by OO or the lock was simply due to an IP change.

 

[Katanas]

Given my busy IRL schedule, I am making a solution to resolve this issue. My liability on this given the facts should be $0 as some terms were breached making insurance invalid in my view.

If Sythe decides otherwise despite other precedence set, I am prepared to take partial responsibility (i.e. 50% of $825) and @Nanobot / @Biggiehiggie remaining. Repaid $200 which leaves me with $212.5. I am happy to reallocate my community repayment credit towards @Katana.

I have answered all your points about how I got the money on the account, supplied evidence and mods have practically reviewed the situation and given a solution.

pay however you like, as long as I get the money ASAP (I’ve already been waiting nearly a month), this will be resolved.

 

Given my busy IRL schedule, I am making a solution to resolve this issue. My liability on this given the facts should be $0 as some terms were breached making insurance invalid in my view.

If Sythe decides otherwise despite other precedence set, I am prepared to take partial responsibility (i.e. 50% of $825) and @Nanobot / @Biggiehiggie remaining. Repaid $200 which leaves me with $212.5. I am happy to reallocate my community repayment credit towards @Katana.

EDIT: This is the best I am willing to go for. If this is not something not in line w/ Sythe opinion, feel free to consider Ban/DNT, etc. Insurance would have been paid out fully w/o all this hassle had the account been stolen back by OO or the lock was simply due to an IP change.

Thats to bad you chose to go this route,
@Peanut Services will be DNT'd until this is resolved. This order took place in the server, you are a manager of this server and utilized the server to complete the sale. The debt falls on the server.

 

Brief overview.
OP bought an account through @Peanut Services , the head manager @MrPireX1 offered an warranty on the account in which he would be held liable if anything were to happen. Account was locked, @MrPireX1 contacted the OO of the account and attempt to get it unlocked/retrieved but failed to fully unlock it. Proof was provided of the attempts, but the warranty claims that if it can not be recovered that @MrPireX1 would repay the customer. $200 was refunded already so $600 remains. Lastly, an attempted scam took place in the server ticket, in which the peanut team attempted to take extra funds for attempting to recover the account for the customer.


Edit: I'm awaiting another piece of evidence from another staff member of the peanut team, atm it appears the transcripts provided here are from different sales. If the seller and manager sold the account outside of the server peanut can't be held liable

 

@Katanas can you verify if the trade was done within the server or through direct DMs? Please provide anything you have on where you originally found the account, and if it was discussed in the server? I see that you've purchased multiple accounts, which is why one of the accounts transcript was thrown into this report, though it appears that transcript sale is separate from this particular sale? Though the manager was still involved somehow

 

[Katanas]

@Katanas can you verify if the trade was done within the server or through direct DMs? Please provide anything you have on where you originally found the account, and if it was discussed in the server? I see that you've purchased multiple accounts, which is why one of the accounts transcript was thrown into this report, though it appears that transcript sale is separate from this particular sale? Though the manager was still involved somehow

hey Pirate, thanks for your response.
The sale was done outside of the server. I am unsure of as to why the transcript was involved as that was seperate. Mrpirex1 (Manager in Peanut services and MM in this situation) decided to take the spot of MM outside of the server and had full faith and trust in the OO (WEL Rick or PVMLORD) as the OO was an EX-worker in peanut services.

Pirex stated 2 posts ago that he wants his community allocation fee to be used for my payment and WEL Rick (OO) will pay the remainder of the payment. If they do not pay and go against the contract, i will post in this thread and make a scam report.

 

[Katanas]

Editors note**
Sorry I meant community repayment credit. ^^

I found the account via Mrpirex1 who suggested it in our DMs as he knew I was in search of an account that was of similar total level. He obviously had plentiful trust in the OO as per mentioned it was his ex-colleague and friend whom he talked to daily.

 

[MrPireX1]

Brief overview.
OP bought an account through @Peanut Services , the head manager @MrPireX1 offered an warranty on the account in which he would be held liable if anything were to happen. Account was locked, @MrPireX1 contacted the OO of the account and attempt to get it unlocked/retrieved but failed to fully unlock it. Proof was provided of the attempts, but the warranty claims that if it can not be recovered that @MrPireX1 would repay the customer. $200 was refunded already so $600 remains. Lastly, an attempted scam took place in the server ticket, in which the peanut team attempted to take extra funds for attempting to recover the account for the customer.


Edit: I'm awaiting another piece of evidence from another staff member of the peanut team, atm it appears the transcripts provided here are from different sales. If the seller and manager sold the account outside of the server peanut can't be held liable

The account in question was done outside of server through PMs (Screen 1 | Screen 2) hence Peanut wasn't party to the contract or any communications.

I understand you may have skimmed the transcript quick so didn't grasp the content well. The "200m attempted scam to recover" was not to recover but was a fee to help get the account unbanned. Like I've said before, our caper was poking fun as Katanas said it's a fee to recover the account.

@Pirate -- Regardless of all these, I've been kicked from my server role. Does @Nanobot / @Biggiehiggie have no liability with this report. You are treating this contract as a 2-party contract (while implicating a server) when it was 3-party contract done through PMs. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you are biased and trying to put competitors out of business (or simply not reading the evidence provided and rushing into verdict)

 

The account in question was done outside of server through PMs (Screen 1 | Screen 2) hence Peanut wasn't party to the contract or any communications.

I understand you may have skimmed the transcript quick so didn't grasp the content well. The "200m attempted scam to recover" was not to recover but was a fee to help get the account unbanned. Like I've said before, our caper was poking fun as Katanas said it's a fee to recover the account.

@Pirate -- Regardless of all these, I've been kicked from my server role. Does @Nanobot / @Biggiehiggie have no liability with this report. You are treating this contract as a 2-party contract (while implicating a server) when it was 3-party contract done through PMs. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you are biased and trying to put competitors out of business (or simply not reading the evidence provided and rushing into verdict)

You've been kicked from your server role because you have a debt, and in line with Peanuts server's TOS you can't have a debt and be apart of the server's team. I've been talking with the other staff of the discord today to clear the servers name because everything I was provided from you and other parties was didnt equal up

The 200m attempted scam claim is legitimate, yall tried to collect 200m from the customer knowing the account was still banned, the customer asked yall to get it unlocked/unbanned in attempt to remove the ban. Once it was approved yall claim it was good, and you yourself tried to collect it for the OO.

Lastly, Peanut was tied because you abused your privileges/trust as a manager of Peanuts team to take a customer outside of the care of the server. I'm not going to dig into Peanuts tos for workers, but 99% of servers don't allow this. You will be held liable for the account as stated by your warranty. Please let me know how you would like to move forward with the debt.

 

[MrPireX1]

The 200m attempted scam claim is legitimate, yall tried to collect 200m from the customer knowing the account was still banned, the customer asked yall to get it unlocked/unbanned in attempt to remove the ban. Once it was approved yall claim it was good, and you yourself tried to collect it for the OO.

Yes. 200m was meant to be a fee of getting the account unbanned. I was the first one to say I misunderstood the Account Recovery claim accepted as Ban Appeal Accepted and told him to not pay. After that, it was just poking fun given the word technicalities by caper. I could be wrong as it's vague memory but I don't scam

Lastly, Peanut was tied because you abused your privileges/trust as a manager of Peanuts team to take a customer outside of the care of the server.

I do business outside of server even prior to joining Peanut and have my own network

You will be held liable for the account as stated by your warranty. Please let me know how you would like to move forward with the debt.

Understood. I will hold myself responsible but could you please clarify 2 things prior to moving forward.
1) What will the OO's responsibility be?
2) What factors lead to the verdict of the case to be different to this

 

[Katanas]

You've been kicked from your server role because you have a debt, and in line with Peanuts server's TOS you can't have a debt and be apart of the server's team. I've been talking with the other staff of the discord today to clear the servers name because everything I was provided from you and other parties was didnt equal up

The 200m attempted scam claim is legitimate, yall tried to collect 200m from the customer knowing the account was still banned, the customer asked yall to get it unlocked/unbanned in attempt to remove the ban. Once it was approved yall claim it was good, and you yourself tried to collect it for the OO.

Lastly, Peanut was tied because you abused your privileges/trust as a manager of Peanuts team to take a customer outside of the care of the server. I'm not going to dig into Peanuts tos for workers, but 99% of servers don't allow this. You will be held liable for the account as stated by your warranty. Please let me know how you would like to move forward with the debt.

Thank you for your time and verdict Pirate. Much appreciated in following up with the case.

 

Yes. 200m was meant to be a fee of getting the account unbanned. I was the first one to say I misunderstood the Account Recovery claim accepted as Ban Appeal Accepted and told him to not pay. After that, it was just poking fun given the word technicalities by caper. I could be wrong as it's vague memory but I don't scam



I do business outside of server even prior to joining Peanut and have my own network



Understood. I will hold myself responsible but could you please clarify 2 things prior to moving forward.
1) What will the OO's responsibility be?
2) What factors lead to the verdict of the case to be different to this

The OO will need to repay you, but this isn't what the report was for. This original report was for the customer because you misguided him and said you trusted Wel Rick. You offered an warranty if the OO could not recover the account for the customer, he paid the warranty fee now you must hold your end of the deal. You can't collect $200 and not pay out your warranty when someone attempts to use it. You mislead/guided him, it's up to you to figure out. Does the OO owe you? Yes, that's what the contract says, but this report is for the customer.

The other report doesn't have a TOS in place.

 

[MrPireX1]

Exactly my point. A ToS was agreed to that bans will not be covered. Let me draw similarities to both reports.

• Account was perm banned in that report as it didn’t show up on hiscores. But report was opened as OO couldn’t unlock it. In this case, OP first said ban then lock but recanted.
• That report has no ToS in place which automatically makes it 2 year warranty. In this case, we agreed explicitly to 2 year warranty

Despite similar circumstances, outcome is different. All in all, Sythe is subjective with no set of rules. Anyway, report covers 3 parties - I’d recommend MM/OO be treated the same.


Repayment of $825 of account as follow:

1. $200 refunded in Dec 2023
2. $215 community payment credit I am eligible for is transferred to Katanas
3. $300 that I will apply in Community Repayment as OO couldn’t recover in this case goes to Katanas
4. Remaining $110 that Katanas will apply in Community Repayment

I consider this my last Sythe post. Will not be using this.

 

Exactly my point. A ToS was agreed to that bans will not be covered. Let me draw similarities to both reports.

• Account was perm banned in that report as it didn’t show up on hiscores. But report was opened as OO couldn’t unlock it. In this case, OP first said ban then lock but recanted.
• That report has no ToS in place which automatically makes it 2 year warranty. In this case, we agreed explicitly to 2 year warranty

Despite similar circumstances, outcome is different. All in all, Sythe is subjective with no set of rules. Anyway, report covers 3 parties - I’d recommend MM/OO be treated the same.


Repayment of $825 of account as follow:

1. $200 refunded in Dec 2023
2. $215 community payment credit I am eligible for is transferred to Katanas
3. $300 that I will apply in Community Repayment as OO couldn’t recover in this case goes to Katanas
4. Remaining $110 that Katanas will apply in Community Repayment

I consider this my last Sythe post. Will not be using this.

The two reports are not similar, you used your title as a manager to make a customer believe you were trustworthy and took him out of the discord to make a deal. You told him your friend was trustworthy. You offered him a warranty if he paid $200 and made him agree to a TOS. Now that your friend owes money, he bails on you? Stop trying to get out of something that you know you messed up. The other report has no warranty, and no tos.
Thats not how comm repayment works, but enjoy the ban.

MrPireX1#3696
Pirex
mrpirex1
uid: 1121683727886585937

 

Btw, you know your a rat when you withdraw your deposit from the server before making the report. You knew from the beginning you messed up.

yoshiki edit: MrPireX1 Requesting a Pardon
refunded an account and recovered it after one day

yoshiki edit: refunded
yoshiki edit: the account was recovered again