9/11/01.. Government Set-Up?

[Shredderbeam]

The threat will be over when those damn Radical Jihadists realise that America isnt just about making Porno's. And we are a model of success for all.

They don't hate you for your pornos, they hate you for propping up Israel with money and American weapons, and for supporting Israel's right to claim a piece of land in which others already live. They also hate your for your general interventionism, and the way you act like the police of the world.

Abuse of power, that would be like Bill Clinton putting a stripper pole in the Oval Office? Amiright?

There are larger issues than Clinton's infidelity at hand here.

Can you honestly say that you would know if they tapped your phones, or read your email? Come on, its the NSA and any other 3 letter acronym that I cant think of...they can do this with out breaking a sweat.

Its not temporary, as long as we are fighting terrorism on their doorsteps, we secure our borders, introduce immigration control, and keep one step ahead of the enemy, we will be golden.

There are no enemies, you're not keeping ahead of anybody.

How do I know this country is safer? Hmm, maybe because we havent had another 9/11 incident?

9/11 was perpetrated by the government.

Your not from the US are you? I wish very bad things upon you.

Yes, those foreigners, they're all wicked devils.

And FYI we didnt fake the goddamn terrorist act. We faked Iraqi Intelligence about having WMDs. So you sir, need to shut the hell up and think before you disrespect America like that.

America is a country. Disrespecting it harms nobody. Get over it.

 

[The Fat Controller]

But, i am smarter then you, since all of your arguements are you trying to protect your government, when you do not understand how corrupt they are.

Learn, before you say i am not intelligent, sir. Oh, think of this quote before you reply with your comment "A brain is like a parachute, it does not function unless it is open."

Learn to spell the word argument before you start berating others for a claimed lack of understanding. What corruption are you referring to, specifically?

9/11 was perpetrated by the government.

Why would the government run such a huge risk?

 

[Shredderbeam]

2) How the hell would we make money off of destroying one of the Icons of America?!

It sure as hell provided justification for the Patriot Act and a markedly more aggressive foreign policy.

5) I Watched the GODDAMN AIRPLANES FLY INTO THE TWIN TOWERS! I watched people jump out of the highest windows and people in the streets run in fear, so dont tell me the US Govt planned this attack. And do you have pictures of the so called "bombs" the US Govt put in the Towers? By all means show me pictures.

"I'm emotional over this, therefore your position is false."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

Fire Chief, 4 minutes in: "There's a bomb in the building, clear the area."

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ial&hs=4Zb&q=9+11+insider+trading&btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?q=9+11...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Etc.

Why would the government run such a huge risk?

Huge benefit.

 

[Triggerfinger]

But, i am smarter then you, since all of your arguements are you trying to protect your government, when you do not understand how corrupt they are.

Learn, before you say i am not intelligent, sir. Oh, think of this quote before you reply with your comment "A brain is like a parachute, it does not function unless it is open."

1) We blamed it on Al Queda, which then we Blamed Saddam for harboring. Then also for having WMDs. So, about this insurance policy, where abouts did you hear this? Please tell and show sources if you can.

2) I'm ignorant? Really? Is that because I am defending what I believe and what my opinions are? What are you, like 12?

3) Your wonderful, hockey playing, Molson drinking Government isn't Corrupt? Then how come your only 3 places higher then the USA?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/gov_cor-government-corruption

4) "...you'd see the bombs the US government set up inside the towers" Thats what you said a few posts ago, but now your telling me they HIT the towers? Hmm, make up your mind kid. And, to be honest, I never said they fell sideways, I just said they fell. How would you know planes do not do that to buildings? Have experience?

People heard the bombs? Yea, really believe what people heard when they were panicing and running for their lives...besides hundreds of gallons of Jet Fuel might make a tiny explosion dont you think? Most civilians, me included, would think that it was a bomb going off. Some people might not have seen the planes fly into the Twin Towers, so they assumed it was a bomb.

They don't hate you for your pornos, they hate you for propping up Israel with money and American weapons, and for supporting Israel's right to claim a piece of land in which others already live. They also hate your for your general interventionism, and the way you act like the police of the world.



There are larger issues than Clinton's infidelity at hand here.



There are no enemies, you're not keeping ahead of anybody.



9/11 was perpetrated by the government.



Yes, those foreigners, they're all wicked devils.



America is a country. Disrespecting it harms nobody. Get over it.

1) So you dont like Israel? Why should they have to sit out when their religion claims part of that land as well? We support Israel because they are our Ally. As for the policing part, I can agree to some extent. We do stick our noses sometimes when it doesnt belong, but someone has to try and keep order. The UN sure as hell won't.

Basically, the way I see it, these so called Muslim Extremists (SP?) and other radical terrorist groups. They are just jealous of America and what it stands for. They are also giving Muslims a bad name, I know a few people of the Muslim religion and I find them to be very polite and mannered. But these who are fighting for "the holy land" are sad. Very sad indeed. (So dont call me a racist, as I'm not.)

2) But if Bill did put a stripper pole in the Oval Office, that would be Abuse of Power right?

3)No enemies? Really now, last I checked North Korea wasn't our best friend from Grade School, the whole Middle East wants to see us fail, Cuba is well, Cuba, Russia isn't Buddy Buddy with us... But we have no enemies huh? If only, then the world would be peaceful.

4) 9/11 was NOT perpetrated by the USA Govt.

5) Oh yes indeed, foreigners are evil. /Sarcasm.

6) He's lucky we havent annexed Canada yet like we did Hawaii...

It sure as hell provided justification for the Patriot Act and a markedly more aggressive foreign policy.



"I'm emotional over this, therefore your position is false."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

Fire Chief, 4 minutes in: "There's a bomb in the building, clear the area."

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ial&hs=4Zb&q=9+11+insider+trading&btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?q=9+11...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Etc.



Huge benefit.

A bomb in the building...wow. After seeing a catastrophe like that anyone would think a bomb did it. Wouldnt you? Come on, your down on the ground, panicing with people running around. One of the most famous buildings in the USA was just destroyed, of course you will think its a bomb. Hell, i would. How many people do you think were just sitting outside watching the sky for kamikaze airplanes? Not many...

I watched two planes on tv, from my science class, fly into the Twin Towers. There were no bombs blown, it was purely (SP?) two Jumbo Jets.

 

[The_Void]

Mhmm.
Terroists had nothing to do with it, Bin Laden had NOTHING to point to him as leader of AlKhida(sp?), Federal Reserve benefits SOO much off of war, all three buildings collapsed in a controlled demolition manner, The plane that hit the pentagon some how "melted" where the material used to make the supposed type of plane that hit the pentagon doesn't melt at the temperature Jet Fuel burns...
A few of the many things pointing to the U.S. Government as the "attackers"

Exactly, what kind of an idiot would honestly believe that some Arab in a cave was able to orchestrate all of this. Ntm, it's been proven the Bushs and the Bin Ladens were actually close family friends. They've even taken vacations together. 2 weeks before 9/11 a plane with over 100 members of the Bin Laden family left and went to Afghanistan. 1 week before 9/11 a CIA handler met with Osama. The alleged pilots, of which I believe there were 16, 9 have been seen alive. There's so much of it that doesn't make sense it's not even funny. We've been taken for ignorant idiots, and the sad thing is the majority of Americans are. It's all been planned. Thus the election didn't een matter. Obama has already revoked everything he's said for 1 reason or another. The situation we're in is this: the government is about to fuck us, our choice is who we want behind us, McCain or Obama--We chose Obama.

 

[Triggerfinger]

Yea, and Elvis is reported to be seen alive everyday...along with UFOs, etc.

 

[The_Void]

Yea, and Elvis is reported to be seen alive everyday...along with UFOs, etc.

Wow, you're cool.

 

[Triggerfinger]

Well, if Bin Laden didnt plan it then Elvis MUST be alive...

 

[Shredderbeam]

Yea, and Elvis is reported to be seen alive everyday...along with UFOs, etc.

There's a difference - these accused hijackers actually are alive.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

 

[Triggerfinger]

There's a difference - these accused hijackers actually are alive.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

They are alive, just means this didnt fly the plane like people accused them of doing. But somehow participated in 9/11. No one could fly a plane into a building then survive to escape the USA.

 

[The_Void]

There's a difference - these accused hijackers actually are alive.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

Thank you. And in enters Shredder with the sword of proof to shove up ignorant people's asses.

 

[Triggerfinger]

ignorant

Man. That word is thrown around casually in this joint.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4142232

As for the hijackers being alive? So what, that just means we need to go and find them, then "politely" ask them questions. You seem to think Bin Laden is an idiot? Why is he such a dumb "cave dweller"? What makes him less intelligent then someone from the United States or The UK? Is it because you are still in denial about something like this happening? And yes, the Bush's were friends with Bin Laden. That doesnt mean anything other than poor choice of relationships in the previous years. Thats like bringing up that we sold guns to Iraq in the Iraq/Iran war....everyone knows we did it. Believe it or not, Bin Laden has friends. THese friends of his have money, power, and influence. This is how he is able to survive all these years (from the US) and still manage to try and plan different acts of terror.

 

[Shredderbeam]

They are alive, just means this didnt fly the plane like people accused them of doing. But somehow participated in 9/11. No one could fly a plane into a building then survive to escape the USA.

These men were accused hijackers - they were not accused of handling al Qaeda paperwork, they were directly accused of being hijackers and only hijackers.

 

[Triggerfinger]

Well, accusations are just that, accusations. We should invite them for tea in G'Mo and talk about the past!

 

[99 cooking]

Oil, They're in iraq for Oil. Plain and simple.
They prooved there was explosives in the tower.

They Might have proved that some form of secondary explosion happened, but have you ever considered the fact that the terrorists could have brought something on the plane with them?
Incindiary devices that explode at extreme temperatures could have caused the melting of metal within the plane.

 

[Shredderbeam]

They Might have proved that some form of secondary explosion happened, but have you ever considered the fact that the terrorists could have brought something on the plane with them?
Incindiary devices that explode at extreme temperatures could have caused the melting of metal within the plane.

They didn't need to melt the metal (aluminum) of the plane, they needed devices placed at critical points on the three towers. Simply throwing bricks of thermate into the towers would not do the job - they would have to be placed at a certain angle, place, etc.

 

[Triggerfinger]

Say they did have explosives in the building, it doesnt mean the Gov't placed them there. If these terrorists were able to learn to fly then they sure as hell had the ability to get in and plant explosives.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Say they did have explosives in the building, it doesnt mean the Gov't placed them there. If these terrorists were able to learn to fly then they sure as hell had the ability to get in and plant explosives.

If the terrorists had planted explosives in the towers, there would be no need to fly planes into them. There would also be no need for the government to deny the use of explosives as vehemently as it has.

 

[The Fat Controller]

If the terrorists had planted explosives in the towers, there would be no need to fly planes into them. There would also be no need for the government to deny the use of explosives as vehemently as it has.

If the terrorists had flown planes into the towers, there would have been no reason for the government to blow them up.

Oh, wait...

 

[Jesse]

If the terrorists had flown planes into the towers, there would have been no reason for the government to blow them up.

Oh, wait...

Oh wait, the terrorists didn't which is why there were explosives to ensure no evidence except a passport that survived that immense heat and pressure 'conveniently' ends up a couple of blocks away.