What IS Truth?

[AlpHaNiX]

Has this not been mathematically proven? What more evidence would one need?

You must be confused with a fact and the perception of a fact.

A fact is a actual event experienced throughout the time of history, not a idea that a group of people decide to create one day.

Giving math the title of fact is saying Jesus is a fact and he died for our sins.

 

[Try and run]

If you can support your logic with fact, then in my mind it is true. But heres the exact definition of truth -
1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience: the basic truths of life.
9. agreement with a standard or original.
10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
11. Archaic. fidelity or constancy.

—Idiom12. in truth, in reality; in fact; actually: In truth, moral decay hastened the decline of the Roman Empire.

 

[tiger9110]

If you can support your logic with fact, then in my mind it is true. But heres the exact definition of truth -
1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience: the basic truths of life.
9. agreement with a standard or original.
10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
11. Archaic. fidelity or constancy.

—Idiom12. in truth, in reality; in fact; actually: In truth, moral decay hastened the decline of the Roman Empire.

I see this extensive definition of truth you managed to find, however this in itself tells me that there are multiple versions of the truth?

1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.

The use of "true" to describe truthfulness would be redundant as you are trying to use the same word to try and define what you are defining.

4. the state or character of being true.

Again, same problem here.

7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.

This one made me laugh.

9. agreement with a standard or original.

Just because you agree with something does not mean it is the truth, it is an attempt to understand what you do not know.

11. Archaic.

Archaic. Do you know what this means? I do not see a relevance with truth.

 

[FreedomFight]

Ok. If anyone would really like to understand one of the biggest semantical arguments of all time, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth

 

[Try and run]

I see this extensive definition of truth you managed to find, however this in itself tells me that there are multiple versions of the truth?



The use of "true" to describe truthfulness would be redundant as you are trying to use the same word to try and define what you are defining.



Again, same problem here.



This one made me laugh.



Just because you agree with something does not mean it is the truth, it is an attempt to understand what you do not know.



Archaic. Do you know what this means? I do not see a relevance with truth.

That was taken from a dictionary reference site, not myself. To half of your questions, everyone has an opinion. The rest of them I dont really care I was just stating my opinion and the definitions I found for it.

 

[Straggler]

Truth is not universal. Everyone forms their own truths about the world. Such as:

Hitler is a good person.

You can not have one universal correct truth.

The simple way to figure out if this is a true statement is this:

What does good mean? What are specific choices and actions that a good person makes?

Then you ask yourself, does Hitler have more of these good characteristics than "bad" ones?

If so, he is a good person. If not, he's a bad person.

It's generally hard to attach adjectives to truth simply because adjectives are often interpreted differently by different people. In any other case, when you have a noun-to-noun truth, such as the dog's name is Spot, it's more clear to figure out what is true. With noun to adjective, such as Spot is a good dog, it is harder to determine the truth.

 

[tiger9110]

That was taken from a dictionary reference site, not myself. To half of your questions, everyone has an opinion. The rest of them I dont really care I was just stating my opinion and the definitions I found for it.

So your saying that the opinions you expressed did not go with the definition you found?

Interesting.

 

[Try and run]

^ Yes, exactly why its a personal opinion.

 

[tiger9110]

^ Yes, exactly why its a personal opinion.

SFA is NOT for just personal opinions, you need solid evidence or atleast some thesis to give reason to what you say.

 

[Dr Lauftstein]

Truth is what is the most primal and atomically correct piece of information.

 

[tiger9110]

Truth is what is the most primal and atomically correct piece of information.

Care to break that down a bit?

 

[sly motherfacker]

truth is whatever our lord and savior, Barack Obama, says.

 

[wombakage]

Truth is not universal. Everyone forms their own truths about the world. Such as:

Hitler is a good person.

You can not have one universal correct truth.

for some people hitler was a good person....

Its ok for me too say this because im jewish )))


no but its all based on perspective

 

[Mike¥]

Simple and Straight forward enough, tell me what you think truth is.

Some Things To Consider

• Who is Right and who is Wrong?
• Truth is in the eyes of the beholder?
• Is Truth human kind trying to understand something they cannot?
• Can the Truth be a Lie?

Let me know what you think, im interested.

EDIT: Ill put in some of my reasoning on the subject, I myself think that Truth is different to everyone, but isnt that makes it a lie? Its what you yourself THINK it should be but in reality it isnt at all. That "thing" you are trying to understanding never had a name was not created with a name, it is what we humans do by naming things, then with that saying this is the truth or "fact" you could say, there have been many debates on this theory but im purely interested in what the community thinks.

- Let the debate begin

Truth is one's perspective on fiction & reality.
I win

 

[Tropical]

Truth is a hard thing to think about.. my main thought is of the person whom see's the occurence (talking ufo's here)

 

[SatanCapes]

Truth is fact, if it is not a fact, it is opinion.

 

[shawnvd]

Truth is not universal. Everyone forms their own truths about the world. Such as:

Hitler is a good person.

You can not have one universal correct truth.

Truth is universal. If you say that truth isn't universal, you are contradicting yourself, as that is a universal statement.

Definition of truth: Conformity to fact or actuality.

 

[Schnell]

Truth is not universal. Everyone forms their own truths about the world. Such as:

Hitler is a good person.

You can not have one universal correct truth.

Good is an abstract term. It is impossible to say if someone is good or not because there is no definite meaning to the word "good". That's like saying "the stone is heavy" or "the tree is short". Completely irrelevant in this discussion.

 

[Arya]

I don't understand what you're saying. Truth is objective, it isn't something that is different to different people.

The truth is objective, you say.
Well, fact is the basis of truth. Fact is subjective.

Example (GL reference)-

"Yesterday, while I was having an affair with my secretary, my wife called and asked if I was coming home. I said I had something on my desk that needed my attention. I didn't lie."

You see?

 

[DropKick Murphys]

Facts aren't subjective.

Irrelevant example.