Staff update

[SuF]

It also gives the most active members of a forum ownership of the forum so they feel like they actually matter and don't have to constantly ask other people to give a rats ass about the section they care about

 

Ever heard the phrase: everything for the state and by the state, nothing outside the state

Lmk which ideology you think that's from and if you think it's conducive to an active market and community

Did some research sounds like Totalitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SuF]

And it offers a reward system for people who actually are competent and like a particular section since getting staff makes it seem like the site likes you and wants you to help make it better which is going to keep people around more

 

[SuF]

Did some research sounds like Totalitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or communism in its pure form where the state is just the people so everything is the state and everything you do is for the state (aka for each other)

 

Did some research sounds like Totalitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or communism in its pure form where the state is just the people so everything is the state and everything you do is for the state (aka for each other)

Actually it's a paraphrased Mussolini quote. It's from fascism

 

Italian Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia interesting

 

I completely disagree with everything Rich is putting forth on the table. To be quite honest with you, he's completely lost his mind ever since his mother kicked him out due to the "Hotpocket" incident of 2015. He's never quite been the same since and has been recently spotted e-bullying a very nice young man by the name of @Gohan

 

[SuF]

Actually it's a paraphrased Mussolini quote. It's from fascism

but regardless sythe staff isn't a government and community development is rather complicated and im pretty sure i know what i'm talking about when it comes to sectionals and you should let me try to prove it

 

but regardless sythe staff isn't a government and community development is rather complicated and im pretty sure i know what i'm talking about when it comes to sectionals and you should let me try to prove it

correct, staff are a DRO (dispute resolution organization)

But the relationship between between the DRO and the users has obvious parallels. In particular you can't be effective arbiters for the community if the entire community is within the DRO itself.

 

[SuF]

correct, staff are a DRO (dispute resolution organization)

But the relationship between between the DRO and the users has obvious parallels. In particular you can't be effective arbiters for the community if the entire community is within the DRO itself.

it is far more than that since they hold far more power than just that. if you want the staff to just be that then give the cdt leaders the ability to directly hand out mini ranks instead of having to ask the staff

 

it is far more than that since they hold far more power than just that. if you want the staff to just be that then give the cdt leaders the ability to directly hand out mini ranks instead of having to ask the staff

Ye that'll fix the value of miniranks.

But seriously we might arrange for certain perms to be pushed down to community groups if that's an issue

 

[SuF]

Ye that'll fix the value of miniranks.

But seriously we might arrange for certain perms to be pushed down to community groups if that's an issue

i'm just saying the idea of the staff you've got aint what we've got right now and we should just do what works

 

i'm just saying the idea of the staff you've got aint what we've got right now and we should just do what works

Its not what we have now, it's what we're moving toward

In my mind we'll remove sectionals altogether, have globals and admins and probationary versions of each.

Then we'll have specialization of globals where they focus sort of 80-90% on one particular section.

Since (almost) everything is logged on xenforo the distribution of permissions does not need to be as tight. Giving people more permissions than they prima facie need will help in reducing some bottlenecks.

Further, to push non-DRO stuff out of the staff team I'm keen on continuing to develop community teams and pushing various non-DRO related permissions to them

 

But honestly I can't sell anything to anyone. Everyone is so far up their own buttholes about the way the things used to be done that already half the staff left because changes are being made at all

 

"everyone/anyone" - you ever think you have your head shoved up your own ass? Or you never wrong fam?

 

[SuF]

Its not what we have now, it's what we're moving toward

In my mind we'll remove sectionals altogether, have globals and admins and probationary versions of each.

Then we'll have specialization of globals where they focus sort of 80-90% on one particular section.

Since (almost) everything is logged on xenforo the distribution of permissions does not need to be as tight. Giving people more permissions than they prima facie need will help in reducing some bottlenecks.

Further, to push non-DRO stuff out of the staff team I'm keen on continuing to develop community teams and pushing various non-DRO related permissions to them

But honestly I can't sell anything to anyone. Everyone is so far up their own buttholes about the way the things used to be done that already half the staff left because changes are being made at all

It sounds like you are just making sectionals except not calling them sectionals. Globals absolutely should be doing more shit with pardons and disputes and mediation and you can easily do that by just having sectionals. and if the community teams don't feel like they are actually valued or have any power or upwards mobility they'll be dead and they'll have 3/4 of their members kicked out like the cdt just did

 

[Punjabi3]

But honestly I can't sell anything to anyone. Everyone is so far up their own buttholes about the way the things used to be done that already half the staff left because changes are being made at all

Did you at least acknowledge their concerns or try to work together to implement the changes you wanted to see? The way you guys handled the DNT change was terrible, I mean you have people with DNT that can PM other members, accounts which were hacked are being unbanned and a rank which looks like a requested security measure.

 

"everyone" - you ever think you have your head shoved up your own ass? Or you never wrong fam?

Ok lol lets go back to have 95% of the community banned, the remaining 5% on staff and focus on just one dying game. Good fucking idea man.

It sounds like you are just making sectionals except not calling them sectionals. Globals absolutely should be doing more shit with pardons and disputes and mediation and you can easily do that by just having sectionals. and if the community teams don't feel like they are actually valued or have any power or upwards mobility they'll be dead and they'll have 3/4 of their members kicked out like the cdt just did

Upward mobility? It's not a 25,000 person retail business. It's a handful of volunteer staff adjudicating disputes about RWT transactions.

If you want upward mobility you're definitely in the wrong place.

 

Just throwing it out there:

- Application for staff forum

Part of the DNS list for a long ass time.
Multiple years of different staff/community members saying no to this and its ok now.

5% staff? Bro you just lost more than half your staff team update your numbers.

 

Did you at least acknowledge their concerns or try to work together to implement the changes you wanted to see? The way you guys handled the DNT change was terrible, I mean you have people with DNT that can PM other members, accounts which were hacked are being unbanned and a rank which looks like a requested security measure.

DNT members can't PM non-DNT members

I'm so sick of hearing bullshit about DNT. It clearly works. It's clearly been successful. Clearly none of the problems that everyone bitched and moaned about actually came to pass.

It all just comes down to the fact that this isn't a democracy and people have a hard time with that. Why do you love democracy so much? Can you point to an example of a democracy which isn't currently gangrene to the bone ready to collapse?