Are you racist?

[Xier0]

It's documented in history. Go find a documentary to watch. White slave owners raped black women like it was going out of style. I guess they couldn't please their own women ha

So where is this document of history that shows that whites raped more than blacks? You keep mentioning it, but you haven't posted the link.

 

No I'm not, also don't think its fair when people judge each other based upon there parents wealth/success. linking back to the racism question none chooses to be born into a certain background or family so its just not logical to be racist.

 

[rebirth2316]

Blacks are 39 more times to commit crime against white than vice versa? No shit, the american population is predominantly white. Im not gonna download a pdf.

Btw the war on drugs started in the 70s. Tell me how many blacks were arrested and convicted for drug offenses for those "incarceration rates".

This is also objectively false, look at the population today. Whites are quickly becoming the minority of America.

Btw, after all this shit you're giving me about my beliefs, you've had a hell of a lot of racist thoughts against whites.

You're a hypocrite, nothing else needs to be said.

 

[Sept]

@Xier0, are you racist?

Also what is with racism being stronger in the south?

 

Watch your posts guys. This is not a place to be pushing your racist agenda. There are quite a few posts that merit being deleted here but doing so would severely interrupt the flow of the thread. If this continues I'll be forced to close this thread and further infractions placed.

 

[coblittle]

i think it's been embedded in all of us if we live in a westernized society. But we all try not to be, because it's not in our nature.

 

[coblittle]

I'm racist. I would never go out of my way for another race nor would I allow them near my family or home.

I also am determined to spread the awareness of the rapidly decreasing white population in America and the overwhelming effects on culture of interracial dating.

I'm an active member of stormfront.org, as well as having multiple tattoos representing my beliefs, permanently.

The 2316 in my username is a code, in the alphabet. The 23rd letter is W, the 16th is P. Figure that one out. I never really planned on revealing this but since the subject came up I am not ashamed rather proud of my political and cultural beliefs.

Stand for something or fall for nothing.

You're ignorant and brain washed. The earth and it's tribe are evolving, you think this is an issue we should be worried about? Haha what a laugh.. the real issue is this earth being poisoned, or the way animals are treated for our dinner. Or the fact that cancer is a billion dollar industry yet it is cured by high doses of vitamin C yet they still tell us the most effective way is doing Chemo. Maybe another big issue to be passionate about would be all the immigrants coming from syria.. Wait i already know your beliefs on that. Maybe a big issue would be the war on consciousness..

And you know what, maybe it is time for African Americans to make white people slaves. Flip it around, how would you like it?

 

[rebirth2316]

You're ignorant and brain washed. The earth and it's tribe are evolving, you think this is an issue we should be worried about? Haha what a laugh.. the real issue is this earth being poisoned, or the way animals are treated for our dinner. Or the fact that cancer is a billion dollar industry yet it is cured by high doses of vitamin C yet they still tell us the most effective way is doing Chemo. Maybe another big issue to be passionate about would be all the immigrants coming from syria.. Wait i already know your beliefs on that. Maybe a big issue would be the war on consciousness..

And you know what, maybe it is time for African Americans to make white people slaves. Flip it around, how would you like it?

That sounds awfully racist mate.

 

[coblittle]

I like how you don't address anything i have said. Good constructive argument. Go fall off a cliff, you'll do nothing more for society than go backwards by preaching your so called beliefs which are trash and false.

 

[coblittle]

So where is this document of history that shows that whites raped more than blacks? You keep mentioning it, but you haven't posted the link.

You're also choosing to be ignorant and naive. Why?

 

[rebirth2316]

I like how you don't address anything i have said. Good constructive argument. Go fall off a cliff, you'll do nothing more for society than go backwards by preaching your so called beliefs which are trash and false.

I didn't address your concerns because this isn't a thread for them concerns, it's a thread about the topic I did address.

 

[coblittle]

That's just turning a blind eye, but i guess that's what you do for your beliefs

 

[Xier0]

You're also choosing to be ignorant and naive. Why?

How am I being either ignorant or naive? Pursumew made the claim that whites rape more than blacks, while it is actually the case that blacks commit rape as well as other violent crimes at many times the rates of other races.

@Xier0, are you racist?

No, I'm not racist. Anyways, where I lived in the south, the population was roughly ~50% black, ~50% white, so blacks were not "minorities".


Many people incorrectly assume that all races are the same, and to suggest anything otherwise is RACISM

However, races simply aren't the same. Blacks commit more violent acts and score lower IQs, and lower standardized tests scores than whites, who in turn commit more violent acts and score lower IQs and test scores than Asians. This is objective fact.

The politically correct/SJW 'racism' agenda has no basis in genetics, science or logic.

 

[Swaze]

No, I'm not racist. I try to treat everyone equally regardless of how different they look or the color of their skin. Being racist and judging people by prejudice is ignorance.

 

How am I being either ignorant or naive? Pursumew made the claim that whites rape more than blacks, while it is actually the case that blacks commit rape as well as other violent crimes at many times the rates of other races.

I think you're a little of both in this instance. I'll explain.

People often use numbers as a crutch to support weak arguments, presuming that any stat is a good one, capable of automatically validating their position. The truth is that numbers can and do lie to us every day.

The numbers you give shown by criminal databases are meant to imply a significant trend, but do not provide any context. Therefore its meaning is of limited or no use.

No, I'm not racist. Anyways, where I lived in the south, the population was roughly ~50% black, ~50% white, so blacks were not "minorities".

Are you implying that living in equal numbers with a different ethnic group doesn't make you racist?

That's like saying a white girl dating a black guy nullifies her from being racist towards that particular ethnicity.

Many people incorrectly assume that all races are the same, and to suggest anything otherwise is RACISM

All races are not the same. I think everyone with a reasonable level of understanding can acknowledge this. Some are darker, some are lighter, some come with benefiting dispositions, and others do not.

However, races simply aren't the same. Blacks commit more violent acts and score lower IQs, and lower standardized tests scores than whites, who in turn commit more violent acts and score lower IQs and test scores than Asians. This is objective fact.

You're vilifying a race, but for what purpose? You say you aren't racist, but go out of your way to try and flaunt inferiority between races in a non conspicuous manner.

I believe this is what you call selective bias. What are you trying to infer by this? That blacks are mentally inferior to whites based on a segment that isn't nationally measured? What a wonderful way to ascertain your weak argument. Evolution of the mind certainly doesn't evolve in 13 years /s.

Did You Know Black Women Lead ALL Groups in College Enrollment?

The politically correct/SJW 'racism' agenda has no basis in genetics, science or logic.

That makes up for an interesting discussion. Although the image you give depicting inferiority of the mind between groups of people fall short of consideration. It's all visual trickery.

That's like me surveying 1 school, viewing the results, then basing those calculations to label a group of people.

Let's talk about convictions and exonerations.

"Black defendants constitute 25% of prisoners incarcerated for rape," according to the Registry, "but 61% of those exonerated for such crimes." The five men who comprised the Central Park Five, for example, represent only a tiny fraction of this number.

The increasing prevalence of DNA testing over the years has played a crucial role in clearing charges for previously convicted "criminals." The first DNA exoneration documented in the United States took place on August 14, 1989, clearing 22-year-old Gary Dotson of the alleged rape of Cathleen Crowell (who later admitted to fabricating her accusations and inflicting her own injuries). The National Registry currently cites a total of 1,417 exonerations – the majority of which are attributed to Black defendants.

Source

You gave an article that dated back to the 70s. The funny thing is, DNA technology that we have today, wasn't around for those times. Can you imagine how many blacks were wrongfully convicted for crimes they didn't commit, and doing so with such ease?

I'm not trying to excuse the behavior of African Americans in inner cities. I also do not excuse their actions based on their conditions, because as shown in other areas of poverty, crime isn't so high. However, environment, lack of wealth inheritance, and lack of opportunity ultimately causes despair, and deterioration of mental health.

 

[Xier0]

People often use numbers as a crutch to support weak arguments, presuming that any stat is a good one, capable of automatically validating their position. The truth is that numbers can and do lie to us every day.

The numbers you give shown by criminal databases are meant to imply a significant trend, but do not provide any context. Therefore its meaning is of limited or no use.

I understand where you are coming from, but statistics are obviously better information than anecdotes. As for "context", what context is needed to further qualify the info?

Are you implying that living in equal numbers with a different ethnic group doesn't make you racist?
That's like saying a white girl dating a black guy nullifies her from being racist towards that particular ethnicity.

No, I wasn't implying that. It would be shit tier logic equivalent to "my best friend is black"

All races are not the same. I think everyone with a reasonable level of understanding can acknowledge this. Some are darker, some are lighter, some come with benefiting dispositions, and others do not.

I fear that there are not enough people with a reasonable level of understanding, unfortunately.

You're vilifying a race, but for what purpose? You say you aren't racist, but go out of your way to try and flaunt inferiority between races in a non conspicuous manner.

Not even close. Re-read my responses, I have made no claim that any race is inferior. Period. All I have done is posted racial statistics of crime & test scores. Are you implying that races that are more violent & less intelligent are "inferior"?

I believe this is what you call selective bias. What are you trying to infer by this? That blacks are mentally inferior to whites based on a segment that isn't nationally measured? What a wonderful way to ascertain your weak argument. Evolution of the mind certainly doesn't evolve in 13 years /s.

You are moving the goalposts. Also, these differences aren't minor, they are statistically significant and in most cases >1 standard deviation in difference...

URL="http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2014/02/know-black-women-lead-groups-college-enrollment-watch/"]Did You Know Black Women Lead ALL Groups in College Enrollment?[/URL]

This isn't an argument.

That makes up for an interesting discussion. Although the image you give depicting inferiority of the mind between groups of people fall short of consideration. It's all visual trickery.

That's like me surveying 1 school, viewing the results, then basing those calculations to label a group of people.

No. Fucks sake.

Let's talk about convictions and exonerations.

Source

You gave an article that dated back to the 70s. The funny thing is, DNA technology that we have today, wasn't around for those times. Can you imagine how many blacks were wrongfully convicted for crimes they didn't commit, and doing so with such ease?

So has the rate of black rape conviction relative to white decreased significantly since the adoption of DNA tech? -Also, I would like to add here that the only reason I'm using the example of rape specifically is because Persumew brought it up first & isn't economically motivated, but blacks commit more violent crime of every type at higher rates (theft, murder, assault, etc)

 

I understand where you are coming from, but statistics are obviously better information than anecdotes. As for "context", what context is needed to further qualify the info?

Let me give you an example for better clarification.

Say Bobby was pulled over by police for whatever reason. Bobby asks what the problem is. The officer ignores him, and asks for his license and registration. Bobby refuses to comply without knowing why he was stopped, and nothing progresses for both parties. The officer tells Bobby to get out of the car. Bobby does so. The officer tells Bobby to get on the floor, Bobby refuses and asks why he needs to. The officer tells him you're resisting arrest, and eventually arrests him. He's later convicted for firearm possession (planted), or they searched his car and found drugs. This situation happens a lot. This is something a number can't tell us.

No, I wasn't implying that. It would be shit tier logic equivalent to "my best friend is black"

What were you implying? You said you weren't racist, then followed by saying "Anyways, where I lived in the south, the population was roughly ~50% black, ~50% white, so blacks were not "minorities".".

That is a dependant clause. It supports the independent clause "No, I'm not racist." There was no mention of coblittle saying blacks are the minority.

Not even close. Re-read my responses, I have made no claim that any race is inferior. Period. All I have done is posted racial statistics of crime & test scores. Are you implying that races that are more violent & less intelligent are "inferior"?

You didn't have to say it. It was blatantly clear. But let me ask you this. Why did you post racial statistics & test scores? Let's take a look at the conversation that led to this.

You're contradicting yourself. How can you complain about something your ancestors did at a much bigger rate?

Definition of ancestor : a person, typically one more remote than a grandparent, from whom one is descended.

You followed by saying:

This is objectively false. Blacks commit rape at several times the rate of whites.

Knee jerk reaction that was taken out of context. Persumew was talking about a time period where slavery was still ongoing.

He explained:

Read the fucking context jesus christ. I'm talking about midway through the 19th century. You people are so quick to jump at the criminalization rates like it's second nature, it's scary. If you're racist just come out and say it buddy. I would give you a link of how many blacks were falsely accused of rape...But you cant fix stupidity

Then you followed by saying:

I read the context. And I think it's funny how your counterargument to being proven wrong is "haha, I knew you were going to prove me wrong!"

You didn't read the context, otherwise you wouldn't have linked evidence that didn't date back to times of slavery, a juncture in which Persumew referenced.

And I think it's funny how your counterargument to being proven wrong is "haha, I knew you were going to prove me wrong!"

Ironic is it not? I mean, you overlooked what he said, and even inserted an argument that wasn't relevant.

You are moving the goalposts. Also, these differences aren't minor, they are statistically significant and in most cases >1 standard deviation in difference...

Statistically significant how?

This isn't an argument.

You've said that races are not the same, even linked an image showing disparity in scores that favors the idea that blacks aren't as intelligent as x and y.

1. The graphic goes back 13 years ago.
2. This is about SAT scores, which is hilarious btw. You should read this.

Me linking that article was a demonstration of how things have changed since 2003, and that the argument of intelligence being hereditary as you insist, obstructs the graphic shown. Don't get ya knickers in a twist lad..

No. Fucks sake.

Nice rebuttal. I'd like a better response though.

So has the rate of black rape conviction relative to white decreased significantly since the adoption of DNA tech? -Also, I would like to add here that the only reason I'm using the example of rape specifically is because Persumew brought it up first & isn't economically motivated, but blacks commit more violent crime of every type at higher rates (theft, murder, assault, etc)

Naturally it would decrease, but it's still pertinent.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...-have-the-highest-exoneration-rate-in-the-us/

6 Death row inmates were exonerated in 2014, all of which were black.

I explained why your kneejerk reaction to Persumew wasn't necessary above.

 

[Xier0]

Let me give you an example for better clarification.

Say Bobby was pulled over by police for whatever reason. Bobby asks what the problem is. The officer ignores him, and asks for his license and registration. Bobby refuses to comply without knowing why he was stopped, and nothing progresses for both parties. The officer tells Bobby to get out of the car. Bobby does so. The officer tells Bobby to get on the floor, Bobby refuses and asks why he needs to. The officer tells him you're resisting arrest, and eventually arrests him. He's later convicted for firearm possession (planted), or they searched his car and found drugs. This situation happens a lot. This is something a number can't tell us.

The State's insatiable campaign of violence and terror is not a racial discussion

What were you implying? You said you weren't racist, then followed by saying "Anyways, where I lived in the south, the population was roughly ~50% black, ~50% white, so blacks were not "minorities".

I wasn't implying anything, knock off this ad hom shit. I said I wasn't racist in response to a DIRECT QUESTION ASKING THAT. The comment about population size is a cutoff for anyone who makes the claim that I've never seen or interacted in real life with someone someone of a different race.

That is a dependant clause. It supports the independent clause "No, I'm not racist."

Complete shit. The two statements are completely independent and are in no way related at all, which is why I segued with "Anyways". Why are you so desperate to put words in my mouth? I even clarified that this was not an argument in my last post.

You didn't have to say it. It was blatantly clear. But let me ask you this. Why did you post racial statistics & test scores? Let's take a look at the conversation that led to this.

What is blatantly clear? You asked why I posted racial statistics and test scores, but you are in a topic that is a discussion that is about race? It's funny that you are the first person to imply that other races are inferior, yet you are calling people who do not make that claim 'racist'.

Definition of ancestor : a person, typically one more remote than a grandparent, from whom one is descended.

You followed by saying:

Knee jerk reaction that was taken out of context. Persumew was talking about a time period where slavery was still ongoing.

He explained:

Then you followed by saying:

You didn't read the context, otherwise you wouldn't have linked evidence that didn't date back to times of slavery, a juncture in which Persumew referenced

He is the one making the claim, he has to provide the proof. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

Statistically significant how?

Large enough sample size.

You've said that races are not the same, even linked an image showing disparity in scores that favors the idea that blacks aren't as intelligent as x and y.

1. The graphic goes back 13 years ago.
2. This is about SAT scores, which is hilarious btw. You should read this.

Me linking that article was a demonstration of how things have changed since 2003, and that the argument of intelligence being hereditary as you insist, obstructs the graphic shown. Don't get ya knickers in a twist lad..

Once again, this isn't an argument. Why do you keep linking me to garbage clickbait articles? This isn't limited to the SAT, there are major race disparities in IQ testing as well. The black-white test score gap is not a myth.

 

The State's constant widespread acts of violence and terror is not a racial discussion.

You mean corruption? Stop being naive. How many articles should I link you that conflicts with this? Or are you too close minded to acknowledge it's whereabouts?

I wasn't implying anything, knock off this ad hom shit. I said I wasn't racist. in response to a DIRECT QUESTION ASKING THAT. The comment about population size is a cutoff for anyone who makes the claim that I've never seen or interactive in real life with someone someone of a different race.

No, I wasn't implying that. It would be shit tier logic equivalent to "my best friend is black"

You told me you weren't implying THAT. Now you're saying you aren't implying anything? Make up your mind. Attacking you? Really? Stop deflecting logical reasoning, and misinterpreting it as "ad hominems". That has to be a joke.

Complete shit. The two statements are completely independent and are in no way related at all, which is why I segued with "Anyways". Why are you so desperate to put words in my mouth?

You're right, they're both independent. Was 5 am when I replied to you, my apologies. The subsequent statement supported your first. If you aren't racist, that's cool, I don't really care, but what you're saying conflicts with that idea.

Definition of imply: strongly suggest the truth or existence of (something not expressly stated)

Why must you confuse implications for "putting words in your mouth". The two don't logically coincide with each other. IT'S WHAT YOU HAVEN'T SAID VERBATIM, BUT STRONGLY SUGGEST. Jeez

Oh, so now you know my beliefs better than myself, such an expert. You asked why I posted racial statistics and test scores? You are in a topic that is a discussion of race, and data racial breakdowns contributory to discussion? It's funny that you are the first person to imply that other races are inferior, yet you are calling people who do not make that claim 'racist'.

Well when you say one, and say another that conflicts with that first idea, what do you call that?

Let's go back into semantics some more.

Defintion of racism - the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

What were you doing just a while ago? Ohwait /facedesk

I don't claim to be an expert in anything. I just have experience debating with people of similarity in the same subject about underlying connotations that really undermine their previous statements.

Can you stop with the prevaricating excuses already? I'm bringing about your non conspicuous undertones.

He is the one making the claim, he has to provide the proof.

You still don't get it? You inserted an argument not relevant to his own to deflect what he was saying. I know he did not provide proof of said happenings, but here it is since you're being so brazen about the issue.

I still don't understand where you're getting at however. You're asking for proof of black women being raped during times of slavery, and black people in general being assaulted by white men at a similar juncture? Uh... :huh:

Large enough sample size.

You gave me a graphic with no numbers, rather score averages. Let's excuse that for now though. The graphic itself doesn't represent a large portion in the slightest. As I already explained to you, that's the same as taking a survery for 1 school, releasing information from said survey, taking that information and making strong convictions about a group of people.

Once again, this isn't an argument. Why do you keep linking me to garbage clickbait articles? This isn't limited to the SAT, there are major race disparities in IQ testing as well. The black-white test score gap is not a myth.

Clickbait articles? You've got to be kidding me. Let's pull some telling information from said "clickbait article"

The majority of studies have shown that SAT scores correspond to socio-economic class. Students from affluent areas spend $15,000 and up on SAT prep and top SAT tutors in New York command $500-$1000 an hour. How is this fair? The majority of studies (like Stanford's Bridge Report) agree that the best predictor of college success is success in rigorous high school classes, NOT SAT scores.

Much clickbait indeed. But instead of displaying your ignorance, how about reading the articles I give. I can assure you, they aren't clickbait.

 

[Logic]

Much clickbait indeed. But instead of displaying your ignorance, how about reading the articles I give. I can assure you, they aren't clickbait.

I hate to break this to you but data isn't racist. It's actualy quite funny to read when people like yourself go full retard and attempt to convince others that using data is racist. "You can't use numbers, because numbers are racist :'( "!

There are clear physical differences between the races (or you going to deny this aswell?). We as humans adapt to the enviroment around us and evolve to have the highest chance of survival. If going by the definition of racism that you gave then we can't deny it. Yes racism is a real thing and it's caused by evolution. In some situations a specific race do have a small edge over other races, may it be problem solving, running (scream racism), growing rice (Kappa) or what ever you think would fit as an example.