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Because you banned him because you're being a faggot. He has contributed a lot to this site when he was staff, no need to be harsh like that. If his attitude got him banned, marrow should have been banned based on that thread also.

Agreed, I don't know if there's background between you guys or something (Sythe & Punjabi3) but that post was a ridiculous reason to ban someone for; it's the Spam forum... Grow a thicker skin or don't post here lol.
 
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Agreed, I don't know if there's background between you guys or something (Sythe & Punjabi3) but that post was a ridiculous reason to ban someone for; it's the Spam forum... Grow a thicker skin or don't post here lol.

Having a pretty big bitch and moan over it arentya.
 
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I'm most concerned with people who don't actually like the site. Those people who are just here to either fuck us over or cheer on people who are fucking us over. I also don't put up with personal insults that are not just fun and games tongue-in-cheek trolling, but actual character attacks etc. I don't see why I should put up with those tbh.

In some cases though, what you may consider a personal attack is just an inside joke, or someone generally trolling. For example, while I understand I was an idiot about the R2Pleasent situation, I honestly meant no harm with the "IRS threat," but you took it as a personal attack. I was in a group of people I was comfortable with, and any time someone is in a group they do stupid shit, and we were speaking about how SuF was being like Finn. SuF was in the IRC, so, acting like Finn, I posted the IRS form as a "here finn, fill out this form" joke. We were in a Skype chat so it made sense. A similar situation happened earlier with iJava and that link. Syed was just being an idiot in a Skype chat because we were talking about who's getting moderator next, etc (we do this a lot and we act like we're the next person to get moderator, so we're like "big rich and I are buds, gonna get mod first, xD") which somehow led to Syed thinking it was a good idea to dare Java to post that link, and Java honestly did not know you would consider it as a personal attack. He didn't even look at the contents, and he got pretty upset over it, even though he had it coming.

Point is, while people may appear as if they hate the website, that may not be the case, and banning them will only hurt the community. Once in a while, even as the owner of the site, people will troll you, but that doesn't mean they personally hate you and want to destroy your website. It's kind of like when a kid falls down and everyone in class laughs. For a moment you may think they're laughing at you and making fun of you, but if you shrug it off and smile, then you're all laughing with each other.

tl;dr: I currently have a PhD is Psychology and Sociology.
 
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In some cases though, what you may consider a personal attack is just an inside joke, or someone generally trolling. For example, while I understand I was an idiot about the R2Pleasent situation, I honestly meant no harm with the "IRS threat," but you took it as a personal attack. I was in a group of people I was comfortable with, and any time someone is in a group they do stupid shit, and we were speaking about how SuF was being like Finn. SuF was in the IRC, so, acting like Finn, I posted the IRS form as a "here finn, fill out this form" joke. We were in a Skype chat so it made sense. A similar situation happened earlier with iJava and that link. Syed was just being an idiot in a Skype chat because we were talking about who's getting moderator next, etc (we do this a lot and we act like we're the next person to get moderator, so we're like "big rich and I are buds, gonna get mod first, xD") which somehow led to Syed thinking it was a good idea to dare Java to post that link, and Java honestly did not know you would consider it as a personal attack. He didn't even look at the contents, and he got pretty upset over it, even though he had it coming.

Point is, while people may appear as if they hate the website, that may not be the case, and banning them will only hurt the community. Once in a while, even as the owner of the site, people will troll you, but that doesn't mean they personally hate you and want to destroy your website. It's kind of like when a kid falls down and everyone in class laughs. For a moment you may think they're laughing at you and making fun of you, but if you shrug it off and smile, then you're all laughing with each other.

tl;dr: I currently have a PhD is Psychology and Sociology.

But not a PhD in ensuring your gold selling site stays up.
 
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Say it to my face and not online and see what happens. I fucking dare you.

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In some cases though, what you may consider a personal attack is just an inside joke, or someone generally trolling. For example, while I understand I was an idiot about the R2Pleasent situation, I honestly meant no harm with the "IRS threat," but you took it as a personal attack. I was in a group of people I was comfortable with, and any time someone is in a group they do stupid shit, and we were speaking about how SuF was being like Finn. SuF was in the IRC, so, acting like Finn, I posted the IRS form as a "here finn, fill out this form" joke. We were in a Skype chat so it made sense. A similar situation happened earlier with iJava and that link. Syed was just being an idiot in a Skype chat because we were talking about who's getting moderator next, etc (we do this a lot and we act like we're the next person to get moderator, so we're like "big rich and I are buds, gonna get mod first, xD") which somehow led to Syed thinking it was a good idea to dare Java to post that link, and Java honestly did not know you would consider it as a personal attack. He didn't even look at the contents, and he got pretty upset over it, even though he had it coming.

Point is, while people may appear as if they hate the website, that may not be the case, and banning them will only hurt the community. Once in a while, even as the owner of the site, people will troll you, but that doesn't mean they personally hate you and want to destroy your website. It's kind of like when a kid falls down and everyone in class laughs. For a moment you may think they're laughing at you and making fun of you, but if you shrug it off and smile, then you're all laughing with each other.

tl;dr: I currently have a PhD is Psychology and Sociology.

There are hundreds of trolls against me. Normally I don't care. Its persistent character attacks and just bad behaviour I don't like.

In particular, this time around I was pretty offended when Punretard dug up my previous spam forum posts for a character attack: http://www.sythe.org/11935731-post11.html

And I found this to be way over the top too: http://www.sythe.org/11935719-post51.html

Then to top it off he basically says "bye, I was just here to grief you": http://www.sythe.org/11935737-post53.html

He also repeatedly advised members to send pictures of their dicks to myself and other staff. (Which is also over the top.)

And the case with iJava, his attitude toward the site and myself was just terrible. I never got the impression that he had any esteem for the site or its staff whatever in anything he ever said. It was more the case of "you're all incompetent untrustworthy halfwits and you should treasure my existence."

My basic position is: if you really like the site and want it to succeed, then what are you doing behaving this way toward the staff?
 
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There are hundreds of trolls against me. Normally I don't care. Its persistent character attacks and just bad behaviour I don't like.

In particular, this time around I was pretty offended when Punretard dug up my previous spam forum posts for a character attack: http://www.sythe.org/11935731-post11.html

And I found this to be way over the top too: http://www.sythe.org/11935719-post51.html

Then to top it off he basically says "bye, I was just here to grief you": http://www.sythe.org/11935737-post53.html

He also repeatedly advised members to send pictures of their dicks to myself and other staff. (Which is also over the top.)

And the case with iJava, his attitude toward the site and myself was just terrible. I never got the impression that he had any esteem for the site or its staff whatever in anything he ever said. It was more the case of "you're all incompetent untrustworthy halfwits and you should treasure my existence."

My basic position is: if you really like the site and want it to succeed, then what are you doing behaving this way toward the staff?
I'm going to change my stance of being neutral, and I'll be serious here. You raise some fair points, and I agree that general trolling went a step or two too far, but my main reservations were with it being a permanent ban. When you mentioned you'd change it to a two week ban, I think that is fair enough. You've dealt with other trolls before so I don't think you're simply being precious about this matter, but I do think that this is the SF and that short of spreading viruses and whatnot, there shouldn't be much that could occur in the SF worthy of a full site permanent ban.
 
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