Sandy Hook

[tMoon]

Think for yourself (all-in-all, not just involving Sandy Hook.)

Here's a short version:
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If you'd like to see the actual full videos:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&bpctr=1358669493

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&feature=iv&src_vid=Wx9GxXYKx_8&v=_nUOBSN03TU

(those two add up to about an hour but has a lot of information)

Information that's been debunked:
Girl in the picture is her sister
It's likely the gun pulled out of the trunk was a shotgun
Gene Rosen is not part of the actors guild, another guy by the same name is.

http://metabunk.org/threads/1055-Debunked-Vimeo-Video-Proves-Sandy-Hook-Was-Preplanned

Vimeo Video is debunked.

One of several erroneous pieces of information promulgated in early reporting on the Sandy Hook tragedy was the claim that Adam Lanza's mother Nancy was a kindergarten teacher at that school. By the following day, most major news outlets were correctly reporting that Nancy Lanza did not have any connection to Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Sarah (Sally) Cox, the Sandy Hook school nurse whom USA Today mistakenly reported as saying that Nancy Lanza was a "very caring, experienced kindergarten teacher" is in fact a real person who gave numerous interviews about what she experienced during the shootings. A search run on the Connecticut state eLicensing web site using her given name of Sarah Cox (rather than "Sally Cox," as shown in the video) confirms that she is indeed a registered nurse in the state of Connecticut.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/...skK3GEvZ0Lu.99
Quote:
The dates of some Facebook pages and snippets of Google search results related to Sandy Hook have been presented as supposed proof that material about the shootings was up on the Internet several days or more before the actual occurrence of those shootings. However, these dates do not provide reliable timelines: Facebook pages which were initially created prior to the Sandy Hook shootings for other reasons and then renamed/repurposed as memorials, tributes, condolences, and donation sites for Sandy Hook victims retained their original pre-shooting creation dates, and the dates prepended to Google search result entries are imprecise and do not always accurately reflect the dates on which the referenced material first appeared on the web (especially when the content of existing web pages has been modified to include new material).

By using a date-restricted search, one can find many web-based examples of references to the Sandy Hook shootings which Google's search results erroneously dates as having been published prior to the actual date of those shootings:



Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/...skK3GEvZ0Lu.99

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
FEMA

Theory 8:
There was a planned FEMA meeting scheduled 20 minutes from the time of the shooting which helped slow down the response time of first responders.(Added due to popular demand). I went to the emergency services website for CT to investigate this. This class is offered regularly. It was offered on 11/17, 11/27, 12/3, 12/6, 12/14, and 12/17

In fact, digging a little deeper you can see they have had training classes like these for a long time, such as this one way back on 4/2/2012 called Emergency Planning for Schools (2 day course):

http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDe...CCCDCE83CDCACA

These tragedies have been happening for awhile, and so has training people to respond to them. Debunked.

http://kevingilmour.net/sandy-hook-c...-debunked/3191

- Feel free to link articles that debunk claims -

 

[Emperor Nero]

Yeah, and we didn't land on the moon, Hitler is in the center of the earth, JFK was never actually assassinated, and the genesis of the human race is a bunch of ancient lizard aliens that are hell bent on ruling the earth some day.

Think for yourself guise!


The internet is a fucking retarded place.
http://gawker.com/5976204/behind-th...-five-million-people-have-watched-in-one-week
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ctively_encouraged_the_paranoid_fears_of.html

inb4urjustasheep

 

Yeah, and we didn't land on the moon, Hitler is in the center of the earth, JFK was never actually assassinated, and the genesis of the human race is a bunch of ancient lizard aliens that are hell bent on ruling the earth some day.

Think for yourself guise!


The internet is a fucking retarded place.
http://gawker.com/5976204/behind-th...-five-million-people-have-watched-in-one-week
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ctively_encouraged_the_paranoid_fears_of.html

inb4urjustasheep

You forgot to add and 9/11 was an inside job.

EDIT: OT: Personally, I don't really trust anything I hear on the media anymore.

 

[Sun]

I don't generally keep up with the media but -.- If someone seriously put up an RIP Facebook up for a girl 4 days before and a RIP video up for all the lives lost a month before the shooting.. ffs. It makes my stomach turn.

 

[amlyle0099]

I had lunch with bigfoot the other day too. Shortly after that I went swimming with the lochness monster.

 

[tMoon]

Yeah, and we didn't land on the moon, Hitler is in the center of the earth, JFK was never actually assassinated, and the genesis of the human race is a bunch of ancient lizard aliens that are hell bent on ruling the earth some day.

Think for yourself guise!


The internet is a fucking retarded place.
http://gawker.com/5976204/behind-th...-five-million-people-have-watched-in-one-week
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ctively_encouraged_the_paranoid_fears_of.html

inb4urjustasheep

Wow. Thanks for your amazing input!

The whole point of this it to get individual(s) to think about what happened. Someone that is extremely close-minded (such as yourself) may find it increasingly difficult to ascertain information not given to you by any major media outlet. As for your comment regarding the moon landing and such, conspiracy theories have been debunked over, and over again. I'm not saying Sandy Hook didn't happen, nor have I stated I believe in anything that has been said in the video. It is up to the individual to decide for themselves.

Would you mind providing some information that debunk any of the stronger (or hell, even weaker point(s)) in the video? You two articles that simply comment on the video; nothing else.

Lastly, no; I form my own opinions (which may indeed be harder for someone of your nature.)

@Glare, IMO it's just about listening to more than one news source.

 

[mage3158]

JFK was never actually assassinated

Do you think JFK was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald?

 

[mage3158]

It is up to the individual to decide for themselves.

Except videos like this are designed to sway opinion, despite the fact that absolutely none of the evidence is air tight or reliable.

He displays it as fact, but that's not even correct.

Such as Emile being with the president:
http://metabunk.org/threads/1054-Debunked-Emilie-Parker-Still-Alive-after-Sandy-Hook?

 

[tMoon]

Except videos like this are designed to sway opinion, despite the fact that absolutely none of the evidence is air tight or reliable.

He displays it as fact, but that's not even correct.

Such as Emile being with the president:
http://metabunk.org/threads/1054-Debunked-Emilie-Parker-Still-Alive-after-Sandy-Hook?

Put that in on the bottom (just before your post actually.) Along with Gene not being part of the actor's guild, that the gun inside the trunk was possibly a shotgun, and anything else I can find.

 

[mage3158]

http://metabunk.org/threads/1055-Debunked-Vimeo-Video-Proves-Sandy-Hook-Was-Preplanned

Vimeo Video is debunked.

 

[FloydZeppelin]

Yeah, and we didn't land on the moon, Hitler is in the center of the earth, JFK was never actually assassinated, and the genesis of the human race is a bunch of ancient lizard aliens that are hell bent on ruling the earth some day.

Think for yourself guise!


The internet is a fucking retarded place.
http://gawker.com/5976204/behind-th...-five-million-people-have-watched-in-one-week
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ctively_encouraged_the_paranoid_fears_of.html

inb4urjustasheep

Dude, you're pretty much comparing apples & oranges. You're taking a bunch of stupid, silly, and twisted theories (Yes, you twisted the JFK theory words around) and you're just trying to make Tmoe look stupid when in all actuality, false-flag operations are scary real, there are SO MANY secrets kept from us as civilians, as I've said before - We're constantly lied to, sketchy things HAVE happened. So yeah, in a world like the one we live in, who can you blame? The ones feeding it to us, or the ones questioning it?

Stop pretending that you're in a fairy-tale world, at the end of the day we're all just numbers. And if you really believe that it's so difficult to pull off events like the aforementioned, well damn, maybe you're the exact kind of person that they know will buy it, and enough of you to get away with it.

As for the Sandy Hook thing, I've been on a fence. There's been some weird "Evidence", sure, but I haven't been keeping up with it enough to form a real opinion. I do think, however, that this happened coincidentally, but very conveniently so soon after the Colorado shooting that has still yet to be "Debunked", and it seems like so many people have forgotten about that event and in the hype of conspiracy theories that rose from it, went on to the next big thing that happened - Sandy Hook.

I would however, like to see all of the inconsistencies in the James Holmes shooting answered... Preferably from Nero cuz he has all of the answers.

Edit: I do have to say, I liked what he said about the problem of "Debunkers". He's right, more times than never, they focus on the weak points but fail to address the actual evidence. People buy into them [being the debunkers] (Just like they buy into conspiracies) and then they stop questioning it, it eliminates their suspicion. But in reality, there are still unanswered questions.

 

[mage3158]

Facebook page debunked: http://imgur.com/a/U6wWH

Edit: I do have to say, I liked what he said about the problem of "Debunkers". He's right, more times than never, they focus on the weak points but fail to address the actual evidence.

And here we are... debunking the facts that "can't be ignored." This guy has yet to put forth any real indisputable evidence, so quit sucking his cock.

 

[Lame]

What about chris rodery and his niece? No way the police scanner was getting the call from miles away on a traffic stop. He has been known to take advantage of mentally handicapped people to do things for him. Also when the police got on scene there is some info from the police scanner that does not math later info. Like the guns that were found at the scene.

 

[The Weeknd]

I made a thread about this a while back and also watched a 30 minute documentary on World Star Hip-Hop. This whole Sandyhook thing makes me really confused because I don't know what to believe. Would the United States government go to the extreme measures to fake something like this to push forward a political agenda? It just makes me sick to my stomach.

If you want to watch the video, message me, and I can link it to you on MSN/Skype because non-youtube videos cannot be embed on Sythe unfortunately.

 

[Emperor Nero]

Facebook page debunked: http://imgur.com/a/U6wWH


And here we are... debunking the facts that "can't be ignored." This guy has yet to put forth any real indisputable evidence, so quit sucking his cock.

Adding to this:

These arguments are impossible, because some people will never accept the logical facts because there is always something else. The things I brought up are crazy, twisted stories yes, (And no I didn't twist the JFK story, a lot of people believe he was never actually assassinated so get your shit right if you're going to try and criticize me.) but they're the theories that are put out by the same group of people. No one has brought forth any real evidence that hasn't been debunked through logical and simple means, and when you debunk it you are called a liar, a sheep, and a supporter. The fact is that these 'truthers' are a group of people with too much time on their hands being fed by the NRA and other groups of similar interest. The common thread between all of the theories is that it leads back to somehow being an attempt to bring gun control to the US. Simply put all of these people propagating these theories are working right into the grasp of the fire arms industry and the extreme right, but the sad thing is that such a slaughter has been mocked and politicized.

The sad thing is that people actually believe this and are willing and ready to jump on it, instead of searching out all the details for themselves.

 

[mage3158]

What about chris rodery and his niece? No way the police scanner was getting the call from miles away on a traffic stop. He has been known to take advantage of mentally handicapped people to do things for him. Also when the police got on scene there is some info from the police scanner that does not math later info. Like the guns that were found at the scene.

What the fuck are you spewing?

Also:

One of several erroneous pieces of information promulgated in early reporting on the Sandy Hook tragedy was the claim that Adam Lanza's mother Nancy was a kindergarten teacher at that school. By the following day, most major news outlets were correctly reporting that Nancy Lanza did not have any connection to Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Sarah (Sally) Cox, the Sandy Hook school nurse whom USA Today mistakenly reported as saying that Nancy Lanza was a "very caring, experienced kindergarten teacher" is in fact a real person who gave numerous interviews about what she experienced during the shootings. A search run on the Connecticut state eLicensing web site using her given name of Sarah Cox (rather than "Sally Cox," as shown in the video) confirms that she is indeed a registered nurse in the state of Connecticut.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#RAOBDskK3GEvZ0Lu.99

The dates of some Facebook pages and snippets of Google search results related to Sandy Hook have been presented as supposed proof that material about the shootings was up on the Internet several days or more before the actual occurrence of those shootings. However, these dates do not provide reliable timelines: Facebook pages which were initially created prior to the Sandy Hook shootings for other reasons and then renamed/repurposed as memorials, tributes, condolences, and donation sites for Sandy Hook victims retained their original pre-shooting creation dates, and the dates prepended to Google search result entries are imprecise and do not always accurately reflect the dates on which the referenced material first appeared on the web (especially when the content of existing web pages has been modified to include new material).

By using a date-restricted search, one can find many web-based examples of references to the Sandy Hook shootings which Google's search results erroneously dates as having been published prior to the actual date of those shootings:

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#RAOBDskK3GEvZ0Lu.99

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

 

[Lame]

What the fuck are you spewing?

Also:




http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

if you listen to the police scanner, they start reading license plates at the school. Chris rodery comes up as one of the license plates read. He is a petty criminal with a long history of violence and taking advantage of his mentally handicapped niece to commit crimes for him. What was he doing at a school? Also him and Adam Lanza are connected via facebook friends.

 

[mage3158]

if you listen to the police scanner, they start reading license plates at the school. Chris rodery comes up as one of the license plates read. He is a petty criminal with a long history of violence and taking advantage of his mentally handicapped niece to commit crimes for him. What was he doing at a school? Also him and Adam Lanza are connected via facebook friends.

Can you list a reputable source?

Also FEMA debunked:

Theory 8:
There was a planned FEMA meeting scheduled 20 minutes from the time of the shooting which helped slow down the response time of first responders.(Added due to popular demand). I went to the emergency services website for CT to investigate this. This class is offered regularly. It was offered on 11/17, 11/27, 12/3, 12/6, 12/14, and 12/17

In fact, digging a little deeper you can see they have had training classes like these for a long time, such as this one way back on 4/2/2012 called Emergency Planning for Schools (2 day course):

http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CACBCCCDCE83CDCACA

These tragedies have been happening for awhile, and so has training people to respond to them. Debunked.

http://kevingilmour.net/sandy-hook-conspiracies-theories-debunked/3191

 

[FloydZeppelin]

Facebook page debunked: http://imgur.com/a/U6wWH




And here we are... debunking the facts that "can't be ignored." This guy has yet to put forth any real indisputable evidence, so quit sucking his cock.

Read my post, you dimwit. I never said I was one way or another on anything regarding Sandy Hook. I was saying he was right about that in general, because that's how it usually goes.

Jackass.

Adding to this:

These arguments are impossible, because some people will never accept the logical facts because there is always something else. The things I brought up are crazy, twisted stories yes, (And no I didn't twist the JFK story, a lot of people believe he was never actually assassinated so get your shit right if you're going to try and criticize me.) but they're the theories that are put out by the same group of people. No one has brought forth any real evidence that hasn't been debunked through logical and simple means, and when you debunk it you are called a liar, a sheep, and a supporter. The fact is that these 'truthers' are a group of people with too much time on their hands being fed by the NRA and other groups of similar interest. The common thread between all of the theories is that it leads back to somehow being an attempt to bring gun control to the US. Simply put all of these people propagating these theories are working right into the grasp of the fire arms industry and the extreme right, but the sad thing is that such a slaughter has been mocked and politicized.

The sad thing is that people actually believe this and are willing and ready to jump on it, instead of searching out all the details for themselves.

Prove them wrong then, I can't speak for everyone, but I'll applaud you if you get to the bottom of something. But don't think that some stupid conspiracy formed out of hype like the Sandy Hook is a good demonstration for debunking, because as I said before, I don't really suspect foul play like I have in some other big events. I'm not trying to be a douche or anything, but there's A LOT of questionable things that have yet to be 'put to rest', so to speak.

 

[mage3158]

Read my post, you dimwit. I never said I was one way or another on anything regarding Sandy Hook. I was saying he was right about that in general, because that's how it usually goes.

Jackass.

Except, you're still wrong. Because there is never evidence put forth, just circumstantial bullshit, things taken out of context and just questions thrown out to confuse the viewer.

Shit like this is just as bad as the media, he wants things like this to be a hoax, and tries to convince others of that. He's not trying to find answers, he's fabricating them.