Get off your high horse.

[wombakage]

Again, your posting something that isnt helping the topic at hand, your rather prolonging the ability to fix it.

Contribute, but not destructively!


Since this last posts have been Off-Topic. I thought I'd say something to try and correct It.

Despite being here just over a month, I Can openly say I've soaked in so much of Discussion, Drama, Feuds, Arrogances, The list continues..

The destruction of sythe, if not ended now, will be Drama.. Bitter rivalry's between banned members and Staff of sythe are causing a rift between the community and the Staff, and is made even wider with threads like this, Destructive Black-and-white Retort's filling the minds of people thinking that the staff are simply trying to censor the whole forum and emulsify anything they don't like.

You'll deny it, But you can see many posts here that are affected as such, By members who have been banned, who make it seem that this who place is corrupt, that its unjust, Highly popular banned members play you like puppets on a string, working your mind, to post a hateful, destructive comments that don't even help the problem your trying to solve.

You've been here a month. On sythe we pick our battles. We let daily and jcash go and backstop, Now we are fighting fir tc. You sound like a damn televangelist. Who gces a shit about rifts? You've been here less than a month. Stop sucking up, it's annoying. Staff should stop micromanaging us.

 

[T R 1 B A L]

You people are impossible to please.

I try to be more complacent, chilled and arguably less passionate in the way some other staff members are. Don't involve yourself in the major situations; don't be proactive in removing the corruption; take a back seat in all senses of the expression. Then I realize I just can't do that. It isn't me and it's not helpful.

I then revert to how I usually am. I perceive myself as a person who has a good heart and who does all he can for this site. For the last two and a half years, I've put my neck on the line: I've been ''responsible'' for corrupt staff being demoted; corrupt members being banned. You are all wrong in thinking that the site has been damaged during my presence on the staff team. You'll call me narcissistic for pointing out the ways in which I've benefitted this site, but I'm going to do it, as, sometimes, I think my contributions are seriously overlooked.

• Promoted in 2008
• Garnered tens of thousands of modlogs as a moderator whilst removing the more trivial yet equally irritating things from the site (spam, etc.)
• Stood against the team lead system which almost all staff hated but were too scared to stand against. Alongside a couple of others, I was the one who put my neck on the line, ''offended'' Vision Ex and managed to reachieve the sectional/global system which our staff wanted back so badly
• Overcame severe hostility when I was first modded to achieve Global two months later under a unanimous staff vote
• Have never taken a back seat and have always contributed my views and position irrespective of whether they cause offense
• Have counted Moderator logs every single month since I was admined so the staff can see how they're doing
• Have helped remove corruption and stop leaking. When I ran for Official Middleman in 2007, the ENTIRE contents (votes, comments, etc.) were leaked to me within a matter of minutes of the poll being established. Leaking was extremely commonplace when I first became staff and I have helped to remove it.
• Stood behind fellow staff members in the face of them being framed and treated like shit
• Spent more time improving this site than I have done on my school work
• Introduced Personal Support as a haven for our members to seek advice when they have nowhere else to turn
• Introduced the Non-Virtual Items Market and ensured its activity
• Been an approachable staff member for new staff members to approach and seek advice from
• Have banned hundreds of IPs which were being used by scammers
• Have been part of major collaborations with Matthew, for example, where we improve the site. Don't get me wrong, the majority of major technical changes can be attributed to him, but I always take an interest and offer suggestions
• Was the driving force for Pen, one of our best, most dedicated and caring staff members to be reinstated following minor mistakes
• Have helped to ensure a high calibre of staff in terms of helpfuless, activity and integrity
• Organized multiple community competitions
• Taken a step further than most staff members would in helping those who have been cheated. For example, when Bring Me The Horizon stole almost $1,000 in donations, I was the only person who did not sit back in complacency but instead managed to get the money returned by contacting family members and almost ultimately his school
• I have pioneered for many of our best ever staff members to be promoted who, without them, we'd be lost - Verts, Tyro, etc.
• Have stood against corruption and have always spoken out against it and have been the public figure who constantly puts his neck on the line and gets criticised for doing so: Zypur, Brandon, Daily, Syed, Rawr. The list goes on with time and the names become innumerable.

I'm not going to go on for much longer, but I will say this:

My contributions to this site have made it a better place in a number of significant ways. Can you really say that about yourself, SuF? No offense, but you were a complacent staff member who never really pushed the boat out or did anything of much value to the site. The most proactive you've ever been in improving the site is now that you're no longer staff, and, with all due fairness, the majority of feedback you've expressed has been impolite, bitter, hostile, disrespectful and has only really sought to make drama.

I do acknowledge that I make mistakes like anyone else, and yes, I have a hot temper, but that is not because I am corrupt, unkind or scathing -- it is because I am passionate. Passionate about moving this site forward and ensuring that members are safe from corruption and the sometimes irresistible temptation of it.

Nobody here is questioning your contribution to the site, we all respect that, it's your attitude to the average user - you let your passions and authoritative manner (which can usually come across as arrogant and/or disrespectful) run into the way that the site is run, and frankly the way that you let your opinion show in the decisions you make, is simply rude.

 

[Karl]

You've been here a month. On sythe we pick our battles. We let daily and jcash go and backstop, Now we are fighting fir tc. You sound like a damn televangelist. Who gces a shit about rifts? You've been here less than a month. Stop sucking up, it's annoying. Staff should stop micromanaging us.

The whole of your argument is invalid because you think I've been here a month.
Difference between being active for a month and generally being here.

And how the fuck am i sucking up? Stop being a negative little whining bitch, Its annoying.

And fine, Go to your TC, Just don't come to Sythe and whine like a little bitch when your MSN is compromised by someone when you've done nothing.

 

[Darkgroove]

The whole of your argument is invalid because you think I've been here a month.
Difference between being active for a month and generally being here.

And how the fuck am i sucking up? Stop being a negative little whining bitch, Its annoying.

And fine, Go to your TC, Just don't come to Sythe and whine like a little bitch when your MSN is compromised by someone when you've done nothing.

Wth are you talking about. You don't get hacked because you go into TC. I've been in there since February and I haven't been hacked. You know who do get hacked? ANYONE who has even a little bit of trust that don't take the proper precautions in securing their msn gets hacked.

 

[wombakage]

The whole of your argument is invalid because you think I've been here a month.
Difference between being active for a month and generally being here.

And how the fuck am i sucking up? Stop being a negative little whining bitch, Its annoying.

And fine, Go to your TC, Just don't come to Sythe and whine like a little bitch when your MSN is compromised by someone when you've done nothing.

In every thread you support the staff, have no idea whats going on, and generally act like a faggot. This isn't your business, just leave the thread before you embarrass yourself anymore.


Example #1

Gearhearts been used for maybe a day at most, you cant judge activity because of that, Its Roughly Midday, so activity will be low anyway, And the people in Sytheofficial are the same faces that you see every day during this time. That'd be boring, imagine speaking to the same people day in day out.. Its fun when new people come in.

I don't know what it is but you lot think your some kind of Private Cool club that theres no way getting in to unless your invited..

Example #2

Sythe newfags? half of the people in sytheofficial dont even know what sythe is, Julia has an account but never goes on it, That matt fag is just there for some kind of e-pussy. and who cares? I bet you loved the attention when you were staff.

And I don't suck up, wrongful allegations can be harmful ):

Example #3

Your argument is invalid. As i stated before, I don't suck up.

And i didnt say he was staff when he was in TC, what i saying that when He WAS staff, people tried to befriend/suck-up to him, and no doubt he enjoyed the attention..

And how the fuck can you say nerd shit when you do it yourself.. Your the one who's causing the sythe drama too, Don't be hypocritical.

Example #4

There's a difference between "Sucking Up" and generally being friendly, So what if i want to be well acquainted with some staff members? im sure any of you here are.

And ofcourse people's attitude will change around you, Thats like a CEO Retiring and then expecting people still to listen to him.

And yes you are, you could just get on with your usual bunch in the sytheofficial, and let the staff run the new one with all the undesirables you call "sythe newfags", its obvious you don't want them to be in your Private Chat, Invite people personally and be done with it.

Read your posts, you sound foolish.
All of this in one thread. so stop saying "your argument is invalid"

You just spam threads all the time, careful you may end up like hahanerd. Ive been here for over 2 years active. Sit back down.

 

[T R 1 B A L]

The whole of your argument is invalid because you think I've been here a month.
Difference between being active for a month and generally being here.

And how the fuck am i sucking up? Stop being a negative little whining bitch, Its annoying.

And fine, Go to your TC, Just don't come to Sythe and whine like a little bitch when your MSN is compromised by someone when you've done nothing.

This isn't a debate, it's feedback, let the people who it's about reply to it.

 

[Karl]

Edited, because I noticed that I was getting completely Off-topic

This isn't a debate, it's feedback, let the people who it's about reply to it.

It involves everyone here at the forum.

Anyway, I supplied my two-pence, Wombakage starts a flame war because He doesn't like my opinion, makes false allegations about me and is generally a tit.

 

[Maleficent]

In your quote about a CEO retiring actually fits sythe well. Considering when sin stepped off the staff her opinion was still GOD and her voice was still as if she was an staff member.

 

[Karl]

In your quote about a CEO retiring actually fits sythe well. Considering when sin stepped off the staff her opinion was still GOD and her voice was still as if she was an staff member.

Thats more related to respect than anything else, she's renowned as one of the best Staff to become of Sythe.

 

[Maleficent]

There you go again sucking staff dick my friend it might land you a staff spot or maybe it won't. But the point is she still was able to state her opinion as a normal member but was a former staff member and it was done. I'm not here to go against the staff or normal users but some people get special treatment or second chances because of what they have done for sythe.org or sheer popularity. At the moment i can't think of any people as of now i would have to do research and think.

By the way you say it's more of a respect thing but sin got both. Not saying she wasn't epic or anything i never cared to look or give it a thought.

 

[wombakage]

Edited, because I noticed that I was getting completely Off-topic




It involves everyone here at the forum.

Anyway, I supplied my two-pence, Wombakage starts a flame war because He doesn't like my opinion, makes false allegations about me and is generally a tit.

Its not that I don't like you (which is semi-true) its that you make these sweeping statements as if you actually know what the hell is going on. These problems (and tensions) have been going on since December. I made no false allegations, I just said you were sucking up. The phrase "false allegations" isn't even applicable in that context. This isn't a debate, its feedback.

Again, your posting something that isnt helping the topic at hand, your rather prolonging the ability to fix it.

Contribute, but not destructively!


Since this last posts have been Off-Topic. I thought I'd say something to try and correct It.

Despite being here just over a month, I Can openly say I've soaked in so much of Discussion, Drama, Feuds, Arrogances, The list continues..

The destruction of sythe, if not ended now, will be Drama.. Bitter rivalry's between banned members and Staff of sythe are causing a rift between the community and the Staff, and is made even wider with threads like this, Destructive Black-and-white Retort's filling the minds of people thinking that the staff are simply trying to censor the whole forum and emulsify anything they don't like.

You'll deny it, But you can see many posts here that are affected as such, By members who have been banned, who make it seem that this who place is corrupt, that its unjust, Highly popular banned members play you like puppets on a string, working your mind, to post a hateful, destructive comments that don't even help the problem your trying to solve.

You've soaked? That doesnt even make any sense. Why do you use so many metaphors? You sound like a street poet on acid. Puppets? Im not banned, and you're getting in the way of this thread.

The point is, Drew is banned, he got scammed by tyro, and tyro just wrote it off as "Brandon's fault". Let it be known the main admin in this cause is Finn (WHO DESPISES BRANDON). This case is very very skewed, as is your logic(WHICH DOESNT MATTER CAUSE THIS IS FEEDBACK) ANYONE who isn't a suckup, isn't a mod on a power trip, and who has been to sytheofficial loves it. You publicly state that you try and get on the good side of mods, not because of their personality, but because of permissions.




SYED SHOULDNT EVEN Be BANNED. HE SHOULD STILL BE A MOD.

But of course you wouldn't know 'cause you haven't been here long enough.

Could we see the poll for ourselves?

 

[Weasel2013]

You should be too, like really?

This whole thread has been nothing but a flame war anyway.
on topic: You won't change any of these people's opinions.

No, I shouldn't? Accusations without proof don't belong here, bring evidence or don't contradict me, thanks.

It started out legimately, some people decided to flame and it got off-topic, but if you can go back to first page and realize what this thread is really about; I can honestly say I support SuF 100%. I try to avoid dealings with staff as much as possible, and I definetly thing some 'official' positions are too easily achieved; specifically OMM. Far far far far too much corruption.

The whole of your argument is invalid because you think I've been here a month.
Difference between being active for a month and generally being here.

And how the fuck am i sucking up? Stop being a negative little whining bitch, Its annoying.

And fine, Go to your TC, Just don't come to Sythe and whine like a little bitch when your MSN is compromised by someone when you've done nothing.

Rofl. Time spent here at Sythe is only important when it comes to providing that as evidence to know what you're talking about. I agree with you, there is a different between being active and being here. I read a very good thread about what does post count really mean, from a 3 year veteran with only a 250 post count.

Your last paragraph made me lol, quite bashful .

 

[wombakage]

No, I shouldn't? Accusations without proof don't belong here, bring evidence or don't contradict me, thanks.

It started out legimately, some people decided to flame and it got off-topic, but if you can go back to first page and realize what this thread is really about; I can honestly say I support SuF 100%. I try to avoid dealings with staff as much as possible, and I definetly thing some 'official' positions are too easily achieved; specifically OMM. Far far far far too much corruption.



Rofl. Time spent here at Sythe is only important when it comes to providing that as evidence to know what you're talking about. I agree with you, there is a different between being active and being here. I read a very good thread about what does post count really mean, from a 3 year veteran with only a 250 post count.

Your last paragraph made me lol, quite bashful .

See heres the thing. OMM is actually hard to get. The staff run checks on the OMM with a pending application, and make sure he/she is not vading or has done anything against the rules. Many apps are denied because the staff just don't feel comfortable with that member as an OMM. ix Syed ix was an amazing mod, and a great OMM. He shouldn't be banned at all. When people try to talk about "all the evil banned members" those are my friends. We've known each other in spam forum, talked on tinychat etc. They didnt scam me. They wont scam you if you just talk to them in tinychat. Having a @live/@hotmail msn is inviting getting hacked.


HOWEVER

none of that can happen in tinychat. You've pretty much made gearheart official, just let us advertise our own damn tinychat

SuF is an amazing person

Mods should stop getting involved in our dealings off site

 

[Weasel2013]

@ Wom

You're getting a whole post to yourself.

ARE YOU ON ACID?

Just because .Karl talks intelligently you call him out as if it's something negative? You've got to be kidding. You don't even type with good sentence structure. And yes, the rift between staff and members has been going on since December and even farther back. Any structure where some people have power and others don't causes rifts. However this doesn't have to be a problem if good communication occurs; as Finn said. You are flaming him, because your attacking him on a thread that isn't titled "User vs User" (lol), and making me, another innocent user make a post just to call you off because you look quite stupid.

To get more specific, "...with all your metaphors" , you try to use that to attack him by organizing your attack WITH a metaphor? "A street poet on acid". I can't speak for everyone but in my opinion you look quite uneducated and only posted so you'd have something to do. I don't think you care very much at all against the Staff vs Users dispute which is getting heated as of late, corruption at Sythe, and SuF's original purpose for making the thread.

/rant

 

[Weasel2013]

See heres the thing. OMM is actually hard to get. The staff run checks on the OMM with a pending application, and make sure he/she is not vading or has done anything against the rules. Many apps are denied because the staff just don't feel comfortable with that member as an OMM. ix Syed ix was an amazing mod, and a great OMM. He shouldn't be banned at all. When people try to talk about "all the evil banned members" those are my friends. We've known each other in spam forum, talked on tinychat etc. They didnt scam me. They wont scam you if you just talk to them in tinychat. Having a @live/@hotmail msn is inviting getting hacked.


HOWEVER

none of that can happen in tinychat. You've pretty much made gearheart official, just let us advertise our own damn tinychat

SuF is an amazing person

Mods should stop getting involved in our dealings off site

The bottom section of your post I completely agree with. The top half; Check the thread about Staff promotions/demotions over the years. OMM has more corruption than any of them.

 

[Maleficent]

@ Wom

You're getting a whole post to yourself.

ARE YOU ON ACID?

Just because .Karl talks intelligently you call him out as if it's something negative? You've got to be kidding. You don't even type with good sentence structure. And yes, the rift between staff and members has been going on since December and even farther back. Any structure where some people have power and others don't causes rifts. However this doesn't have to be a problem if good communication occurs; as Finn said. You are flaming him, because your attacking him on a thread that isn't titled "User vs User" (lol), and making me, another innocent user make a post just to call you off because you look quite stupid.

To get more specific, "...with all your metaphors" , you try to use that to attack him by organizing your attack WITH a metaphor? "A street poet on acid". I can't speak for everyone but in my opinion you look quite uneducated and only posted so you'd have something to do. I don't think you care very much at all against the Staff vs Users dispute which is getting heated as of late, corruption at Sythe, and SuF's original purpose for making the thread.

/rant

Half the members use statements and words they don't actually know to get noticed for being intelligent because on sythe if your grammar is horrible odds is they won't take you serious. My grammar is bad because i choose not to care unless it's for a real good cause i type whatever way for me is fast and convenient.

All of this is purely off topic anyway

good communication between staff and normal users will prove difficult because staff seem to want things to be private and share when it's a lolwtf issue to them.

By the way me and my friend IRL that was banned on sythe for getting hacked VIA msn in his 3 month or so absence used IRC and tinychat and it did no harm i found it better then using the actual forum. For the fact banned users are generally the funny trolls and people who gotten banned for some gay reason.

 

[OldFinn]

I'll duly point out the irony of Wombakage being a proponent of the ''high horse'' arguments suggeted by SuF in the original post whilst concurrently managing to bulldoze his opinion through on this thread in a manner that reeks of pseudo-superiority. Just because you've been here for a while longer than someone else offering their opinion doesn't mean that yours is superior. I don't see how it's relevant at all.

Moreover, you'll do fine and well throwing your baseless accusations around regarding the Tyro incident, but you don't really know what you're talking about anyway. (Drewskyd is a ban evader, incidentally.)

SYED SHOULDNT EVEN Be BANNED. HE SHOULD STILL BE A MOD.

But of course you wouldn't know 'cause you haven't been here long enough.

So presumably my opinion that he should be banned and should certainly not be a staff member nullifies yours as, in adherence to your logic, I have been here longer and thus my opinion is superior.

 

[wombakage]

@ Wom

You're getting a whole post to yourself.

ARE YOU ON ACID?

Just because .Karl talks intelligently you call him out as if it's something negative? You've got to be kidding. You don't even type with good sentence structure. And yes, the rift between staff and members has been going on since December and even farther back. Any structure where some people have power and others don't causes rifts. However this doesn't have to be a problem if good communication occurs; as Finn said. You are flaming him, because your attacking him on a thread that isn't titled "User vs User" (lol), and making me, another innocent user make a post just to call you off because you look quite stupid.

To get more specific, "...with all your metaphors" , you try to use that to attack him by organizing your attack WITH a metaphor? "A street poet on acid". I can't speak for everyone but in my opinion you look quite uneducated and only posted so you'd have something to do. I don't think you care very much at all against the Staff vs Users dispute which is getting heated as of late, corruption at Sythe, and SuF's original purpose for making the thread.

/rant

First off he types, not talks. And thats not the point. I likened him to a street poet on acid. Thats a similie...... You wouldn't know about the tensions as you haven't been here. Using methaphors and typing as if you know a bunch about the situation (WHEN YOU DON'T) makes you sound like an idiot. Sticking up for an idiot like that makes you an idiot.

The bottom section of your post I completely agree with. The top half; Check the thread about Staff promotions/demotions over the years. OMM has more corruption than any of them.

No, its not corruption. At one point all the OMM's were removed as the trade limits were induced, making it impossible to stop scamming. Barely any OMM's have scammed (less than staff!).


The point is, tinychat is not related to sythe. Hackings do not occur because of tinychat. Sytheofficial is not run by banned members, it is run by a global/HUE(GRATS) and an ex-global.




Sit down.


:EDIT:

I'll duly point out the irony of Wombakage being a proponent of the ''high horse'' arguments suggeted by SuF in the original post whilst concurrently managing to bulldoze his opinion through on this thread in a manner that reeks of pseudo-superiority. Just because you've been here for a while longer than someone else offering their opinion doesn't mean that yours is superior. I don't see how it's relevant at all.

Moreover, you'll do fine and well throwing your baseless accusations around regarding the Tyro incident, but you don't really know what you're talking about anyway. (Drewskyd is a ban evader, incidentally.)



So presumably my opinion that he should be banned and should certainly not be a staff member nullifies yours as, in adherence to your logic, I have been here longer and thus my opinion is superior.

You know more about many things on sythe; i'm not debating that. However, as the two members spamming their post count up in this thread have been here less than a month, they don't even know this whole situation. If we were talking about tenguage or inventor or bewood or whatever, you know more than I; as you are more involved. I've never seen .karl or the other guy in tinychat......



Drew may have vaded; but does that mean tyro doesn't have to pay him back?

and Finn; I know much more about the syed situation than you think.

 

[Weasel2013]

Finn>Womba, first of all, your logic was just destroyed.

Secondly, I'm sorry. your correct, i'm not. It was a simile not a metaphor, but I don't see who can blame me for not putting that much effort into reading your posts.

And I agree with Finn, you don't know what happened with Tyro. I don't know what happened with Tyro. All I saw was an announcement and that a lot of people had a lot of different stories.


I've never seen .karl or the other guy in tinychat...... - Womba

(Sorry for not using a proper quote)
That guy = Weasel.
No, nothing i've said so far involves Tinychat. You're an idiot, because this thread isn't about Tinychat. SuF made a entirely seperate thread for that. You sir, have made me rub my temples. (Lol Tyro)

 

[i <3 1 def]

Thats more related to respect than anything else, she's renowned as one of the best Staff to become of Sythe.

Stfu shitlick? You know as much about the community as Steven Hawking knows about running a marathon.

The staff need to stop thinking there immortal, they dont do half the jobs that need doing, e.g sorting out bans, the only one that has been contributing anything other than mindless shite is spyike >.>