Would You Date a Transgender?

[kill dank]

It's pretty amusing how posters like yourself go out of your way to insult someone's intelligence and go on about how someone is raised yet you go about posting like that.

This is in no way me saying that there aren't those who regret it and potentially put themselves in dangerous situations but it is rather ignorant to imply all such people end up with some kind of 'doom and gloom' when there are people out there who are much better off and happier as a result of it.

How can someone be happy if they feel like they aren't who they are? There is a difference between not liking something about yourself and feeling you're something else, even if the two can intercept. This isn't something like not liking the size of your nose or something which usually doesn't involve much thought on what you are; It goes deeper.

If you disagree, fine, but resorting to comments like that? *sigh*

If they're happier, fine. That's why we let them do it in the first place, right? Just to shut them up.

Again, people need to learn and parents need to teach people to accept themselves as they are, rather than force people to accept them for something they're not. You are either a male or a female and you do not get to change. You can mutilate your body as much as you want to make yourself happy, but you cannot change your gender.

 

[glamazonia]

If they're happier, fine. That's why we let them do it in the first place, right? Just to shut them up.

Again, people need to learn and parents need to teach people to accept themselves as they are, rather than force people to accept them for something they're not. You are either a male or a female and you do not get to change. You can mutilate your body as much as you want to make yourself happy, but you cannot change your gender.

That's the thing; It depends on what you consider to be the real them (in a case like this), outer or inner. Isn't the latter generally considered as important? Any stage of confusion aside or beyond this age/maturity concept everyone's wrapped around, you don't think there could be any truth to the urges of someone who is absolutely positive that changing would allow them to be their real selves?

Thanks for being more reasonable than others though.

 

[Exo]

Never.

 

[kill dank]

That's the thing; It depends on what you consider to be the real them (in a case like this), outer or inner. Isn't the latter generally considered as important? Any stage of confusion aside or beyond this age/maturity concept everyone's wrapped around, you don't think there could be any truth to the urges of someone who is absolutely positive that changing would allow them to be their real selves?

Thanks for being more reasonable than others though.

"The real them" as you put it, in this instance, is irrelevant. They are biologically a human being that is either male or female, all the way through. I don't believe that changing would allow someone to be "their real self." I think it would satisfy a(n) urge(s) which naturally results in pleasure. The source for these urges is bad parenting, the environment the person grew up in, experiences throughout their life, as well as other factors. It's a Nature VS. Nurture argument. Naturally the person is a male and since the feeling of being in the wrong body is not related to the person's DNA (therefor not genetic), it must be nurture or a result of external factors such as those mentioned above or a chemical imbalance. Yes, a chemical imbalance would be natural and a factor of the individual's susceptibility, however not the sole cause of a gender dysphoria.

If the term "the real them" refers to them being happy as a person and nothing biological, then I can see there being some truth to that because if they have the urge to change, and then satisfy that urge by changing, there is a possibility they may feel happiness.

 

[Schoolboy Q]

Never you can dress how you want pretend all you want but at the end of the day you will still be a guy. And i am not gay.

 

[ASAPgang]

absolutely disgusting. Wouldn't ever cross my mind, and if you're deceitful about it to people or hypothetically me, I would be able to punch you right over cause in actual fact you're a male.

 

[Feelgewd]

i wouldn't date a transgender ever, i have absolutely nothing against that. if people are happy with eachother for whatever you are,race,colour,skin,sexual interest, go for it. love is strong

 

[Lame]

Tbh id have to say no but im not in that situation. If i were it might be different but still highly complicated and i cant say i would or would not. Also hiding it from someone for to long might lead the other person to possibly get violent.

 

People can do what they want to themselves, or believe whatever they like. As long as they're happy, other people shouldn't give a shit. Everyone's different & that's a good thing - it makes life more interesting.

If you fall in love with someone, you fall in love with someone - you wouldn't care what they were or what they'd done, you'd make it work. It wont help you asking on a forum where most people are judgmental, close-minded teenagers who base relationships on how hot someone is or how big their tits are.

 

[Pretty Flacko]

I personally wouldn't go for a transgender because I'm a straight and to me it would just seem wrong. There are of course people out there looking for relationships and most definitely wouldn't mind a transgender, that's where there's luck for you -- the world's a big place. Remember also 'where there's a will, there's a way', you're not going to find someone sat in your bedroom, go out, go to the cinema, socialize and make new friends, then take a look into your friend zone and pick a guy you'd like to get close to. Now you also have to consider this: you don't necessarily have to tell people you are a transgender and I'm sure you'd have a lot more luck if you didn't, no offence. I don't recommend not telling your 'other half' though because what if you enter marriage and everything gets serious? If that secret gets out it could cause problems in your relationship -- besides, there will be plenty of people that won't mind you being transgender. Get looking and good luck! Inbox me if you have any problems and I'll be here for ya, I'm sure it's hard being a transgender if you're still in high school...

 

[x Doom]

Let's be real here... If a transgender looked like a woman, had breast implants, sounded like a woman, and nobody knew that they were a transgender, then maybe I'd go for her

 

[glamazonia]

"The real them" as you put it, in this instance, is irrelevant. They are biologically a human being that is either male or female, all the way through. I don't believe that changing would allow someone to be "their real self." I think it would satisfy a(n) urge(s) which naturally results in pleasure. The source for these urges is bad parenting, the environment the person grew up in, experiences throughout their life, as well as other factors. It's a Nature VS. Nurture argument. Naturally the person is a male and since the feeling of being in the wrong body is not related to the person's DNA (therefor not genetic), it must be nurture or a result of external factors such as those mentioned above or a chemical imbalance. Yes, a chemical imbalance would be natural and a factor of the individual's susceptibility, however not the sole cause of a gender dysphoria.

If the term "the real them" refers to them being happy as a person and nothing biological, then I can see there being some truth to that because if they have the urge to change, and then satisfy that urge by changing, there is a possibility they may feel happiness.

I personally think the latter holds more truth in this case because their thoughts and feelings should be the thing the former reflects, along with it not being anything potentially harmful to others like the before mentioned minds of child molesters, etc.

It would allow them to be their true selves by changing if they honestly feel like they aren't the right biological gender. Why are people so skeptical when something happens out of the norm and instantly have to assume that such a situation is the result of something bad happening or being in a troublesome environment? Maybe I'm just wrong for liking to think outside-the-box from time to time.

There have been people raised under 'normal' circumstances who still end up in these types of situations.

It's just like how people are so quick to jump at a gay person and say that it was the result of them being neglected by the parent of their own gender. There are gay guys who grew up really attached to their fathers and lesbians who who grew up closer to their mothers while being raised in good, caring households who are still those orientations.

People can do what they want to themselves, or believe whatever they like. As long as they're happy, other people shouldn't give a shit. Everyone's different & that's a good thing - it makes life more interesting.

If you fall in love with someone, you fall in love with someone - you wouldn't care what they were or what they'd done, you'd make it work. It wont help you asking on a forum where most people are judgmental, close-minded teenagers who base relationships on how hot someone is or how big their tits are.

It's a real shame, especially when some of them happen to be older, more active users. It's one thing to not be into something like this but to sit here and act as if those going through it are some bizarre mutation or automatically have gone through troubled childhoods is a bit saddening. Yes there are those who have but there are just as many who have gone through otherwise happy, normal childhoods who still are what they are/have these feelings.

Let's be real here... If a transgender looked like a woman, had breast implants, sounded like a woman, and nobody knew that they were a transgender, then maybe I'd go for her

There's hope with people like you out there. I honestly think some of the more hostile people towards these types of situations would deep down be just as comfortable had society not put down such instances as some kind of disgusting, vile nonsense that would make them just as nasty and an outcast.

I've seen some really attractive, funny, etc. trans guys whom I feel I'd have no problem dating if we were both interested.

 

[kill dank]

I personally think the latter holds more truth in this case because their thoughts and feelings should be the thing the former reflects, along with it not being anything potentially harmful to others like the before mentioned minds of child molesters, etc.

It would allow them to be their true selves by changing if they honestly feel like they aren't the right biological gender. Why are people so skeptical when something happens out of the norm and instantly have to assume that such a situation is the result of something bad happening or being in a troublesome environment? Maybe I'm just wrong for liking to think outside-the-box from time to time.

There have been people raised under 'normal' circumstances who still end up in these types of situations.

It's just like how people are so quick to jump at a gay person and say that it was the result of them being neglected by the parent of their own gender. There are gay guys who grew up really attached to their fathers and lesbians who who grew up closer to their mothers while being raised in good, caring households who are still those orientations.

Well, here's the thing.. It can't be on a case by case basis. Whether it's changing your gender, molesting children, driving a firetruck, or turning into a dinosaur, they are still urges and satisfying those urges would make the person happy. What you describe as the person's "true self" or "real self" is simply the person feeling happiness due to chemicals in the brain that are released when an urge is satisfied... like an addiction almost. I always have the urge to have a cheeseburger (seriously), and by your logic (and the logic of the second paragraph in my last post) me eating a cheeseburger or filling up on cheeseburgers would allow me to be my real or true self.. doesn't make sense, does it? The person would be happy, but not their "true self" which really has no definition since a person is simply what they are biologically.

You need to look at the biological side of the argument, not just the emotional or psychological side. You can have out-of-the-box theories, but that doesn't make them correct. If I were you, I would start by defining "true self" or "real self" since they're terms you frequently use that have no definite meaning.

Define normal.

And, scientists have found the "gay gene." Even still, gay males and females know they are males and females respectively. This isn't about sexual orientation.

Here's another way to look at it. We build an advance computer with artificial intelligence. The computer then comes to the conclusion that it is a person trapped in a computer's body and would be it's true self if it were in the body of a person. Yes, it thinks that it is a person trapped in a computers body, but in reality, it is nothing more than a computer that doesn't understand what it actually is.