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For some reason people think that our current trading method is bad. As in tons of spam in W1/Merch bots/Using a 3rd party website to trade.

Due to these people crying about it so much, they're ganna try and figure out a "solution" to this. Nothings set in stone yet, we still have to decide what we want through polls and shit.
 
Honestly, they should just put in a G.E. That or stalls people can set up on their own.
 
i agree i think a zybez intergrated into OSRS type of thing would work out nicely, but im not sure if itd be enough for some players..
 
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PlayerAuctionsPR said:
Jagex is thinking of supporting secondary markets?

Also, could someone tell me a bit about the zybez system?
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http://forums.zybez.net/runescape-2007-prices

You go to the item you want
You select if your buying/selling
You put the amount you want to sell/buy
Set a price
People Pm you if they're interested
Meet somewhere and trade.

They recently changed it to where you have to validate your account to post offers due to people posting fake ones.
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?321,322,407,65265709
 
Wheysted said:
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GE would suck
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I think you guys are just blinded by the nostalgia of the old style of trading. I don't know what kind of lifes you guys have, but I do not have free time to just sit around and SPAM to trade items.

I use zybez all the time, but I only play 1-2 hours at a time (only on weekends). Generally it takes a while for me to sell my items or to even buy items. Mostly because I am not on enough and play at odd hours.

I want something like the GE where I can just simply buy the item or sell the item and leave it at that. It is the most efficient way to do things. I hate having to wait days or weeks to buy obscure items I need and can't make/get myself simply because I actually have a life.
 
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I'm totally fine with the current system...Not sure what's wrong with it honestly, go to W1 to get your shit, or make a post on zybez (which is essentially operating just like the runescape forums used to).
 
its fine now ge would ruin game
 
G.E. has its drawbacks but imo the current trading system has to change, it's archaic.
 
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xOneDown said:
G.E. has its drawbacks but imo the current trading system has to change, it's archaic.
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Do explain, yea it's old-fashioned...I mean it's old-school runescape for fucks sakes what do you expect? We play this over EoC (RS3) because that's exactly what we want, no?
 
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Do explain, yea it's old-fashioned...I mean it's old-school runescape for fucks sakes what do you expect? We play this over EoC (RS3) because that's exactly what we want, no?
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Archaic doesn't mean "old-school" it means outdated. The current system is packed into a location that's too small for people to space out and the ones who can successfully trade are auto-typers and merch bots.

If you'd care to not sound like a fucking idiot I might suggest looking up the OFFICIAL poll that asks - "Why do you play old-school Runescape?" Somewhere around 63% play for the combat system. Not for some bullshit trading system that, frankly, has turned out much worse than it was in 07.

And for that matter, this isn't 07! It's 2014 with 07's source - that means everybody has done 7 years of learning and reflecting and has come back to no-life OSRS and master the game as quickly as possible. Get rid of those damn rose-colored glasses and realize the impossibility and stupidity of attempting to bring back a 100% identical version of a game from 7 years ago. As you would say, "For fucks sakes" (sake).
 
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xOneDown said:
Archaic doesn't mean "old-school" it means outdated. The current system is packed into a location that's too small for people to space out and the ones who can successfully trade are auto-typers and merch bots.

If you'd care to not sound like a fucking idiot I might suggest looking up the OFFICIAL poll that asks - "Why do you play old-school Runescape?" Somewhere around 63% play for the combat system. Not for some bullshit trading system that, frankly, has turned out much worse than it was in 07.

And for that matter, this isn't 07! It's 2014 with 07's source - that means everybody has done 7 years of learning and reflecting and has come back to no-life OSRS and master the game as quickly as possible. Get rid of those damn rose-colored glasses and realize the impossibility and stupidity of attempting to bring back a 100% identical version of a game from 7 years ago. As you would say, "For fucks sakes" (sake).
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First and foremost, I'm sorry you took my way of speaking as disrespect. I didn't mean to come across as that. Archaic can mean very old or old-fashioned, according to a quick google search. I apologize for misunderstanding that bit.

I personally spend a few hours in w1 a day and the merch bots do NOT get much business. Their prices are ridiculous. I agree it is crammed, falador would be better suited for trading (the garden). As for the poll, yea I'm sure the combat system is their MAIN reason for playing 07 scape, but the trading system is, in my opinion, far better than the GE and must contribute to people playing 07 over rs3. I agree, the GE does have it's drawbacks - it makes the game far less social and face-to-face trading removed essentially and because of that I don't want to see it implemented into the game. I also agree that the trading in 07scape is far inferior to the trading that went on during 2007's runescape. That being said, I don't think a trading solution is an immediate issue. If anything (until we get a great idea), the zybez forums should just be integrated into the runescape forums but I'm sure that may cause some legal issues
 
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First and foremost, I'm sorry you took my way of speaking as disrespect. I didn't mean to come across as that. Archaic can mean very old or old-fashioned, according to a quick google search. I apologize for misunderstanding that bit.

I personally spend a few hours in w1 a day and the merch bots do NOT get much business. Their prices are ridiculous. I agree it is crammed, falador would be better suited for trading (the garden). As for the poll, yea I'm sure the combat system is their MAIN reason for playing 07 scape, but the trading system is, in my opinion, far better than the GE and must contribute to people playing 07 over rs3. I agree, the GE does have it's drawbacks - it makes the game far less social and face-to-face trading removed essentially and because of that I don't want to see it implemented into the game. I also agree that the trading in 07scape is far inferior to the trading that went on during 2007's runescape. That being said, I don't think a trading solution is an immediate issue. If anything (until we get a great idea), the zybez forums should just be integrated into the runescape forums but I'm sure that may cause some legal issues
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I apologize for my tone as well - it was more argumentative than it should have been.

I agree, Zybez has been a great solution, the only problem being some people (new users mainly) may not know about it. IMO, they should implement a system like Zybez into RuneScape - you can post/view offers, then you add people and meet up with them to buy/sell things.

I do hope the G.E. (or at least not in its original state) is implemented due to the massive amounts of easy merching and price manipulation it caused.
 
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xOneDown said:
I apologize for my tone as well - it was more argumentative than it should have been.

I agree, Zybez has been a great solution, the only problem being some people (new users mainly) may not know about it. IMO, they should implement a system like Zybez into RuneScape - you can post/view offers, then you add people and meet up with them to buy/sell things.

I do hope the G.E. (or at least not in its original state) is implemented due to the massive amounts of easy merching and price manipulation it caused.
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Hold on, you DO hope the G.E is implemented or you do NOT hope it's implemented? Typo I think but just clarifying. I could see "merch clans" messing up the zybez system as well. If 100 people put up selling offers for a rune plate body at 500k and mark it as completed, it'll drive the average up. See where I'm coming from here?
 
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Hold on, you DO hope the G.E is implemented or you do NOT hope it's implemented? Typo I think but just clarifying. I could see "merch clans" messing up the zybez system as well. If 100 people put up selling offers for a rune plate body at 500k and mark it as completed, it'll drive the average up. See where I'm coming from here?
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Yes, it was a typo, I do not hope it is implemented.

I do see where you're coming from but I think if that were going to happen it would have already. Also, if Jagex put a Zybez-like system in game, they could make it impossible to fake offers very easily which would solve the problem if I'm understanding correctly.
 
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xOneDown said:
Yes, it was a typo, I do not hope it is implemented.

I do see where you're coming from but I think if that were going to happen it would have already. Also, if Jagex put a Zybez-like system in game, they could make it impossible to fake offers very easily which would solve the problem if I'm understanding correctly.
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This is all hypothetical because we don't REALLY know but I'm just making up a scenario, worst case scenario. I'm not saying it won't work, this is just a way to could be abused so you can see where I'm coming from.

The zybez system now has a an average trading value that basically dictates the "normal" price at the top of the page. This average trading value is taken from the amount of "buying" and "selling" trades that are marked complete. There is no way to know that these trades were actually completed, it relies on the honesty of the seller/buyer. That being said, I can go onto zybez and make 100 posts selling a rune plate body at 500k and mark it as completed. That'll be added to the average and inflate the price of the rune platebodys. It could be done in the reverse as well, 100 posts selling a rune plate body at 10k and mark it completed will lower the average price of the rune platebodys. It would basically be a new merchanting clan just like they did in the GE. I guess a quick fix would just be removing the average price at the top of the zybez page, you understand that now? Again, this is assuming the worst

http://forums.zybez.net/runescape-2007-prices/3746-black-mask

^^^ See at the top, the average prices? That basically dictates the price in-game

edit: and I think it hasn't happened already because like you said earlier, the whole game doesn't use zybez - just a select more experienced users, however if it was sponsored by runescape, that could be a different story
edit2: does anybody want to start a merch clan haha, we'll drive up the prices of runeplatebodies
 
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