What do you think happens when we die?

[vtrupee35]

We rest in our graves. Until, the Judgement Day. - cliche.
All I can say is, have faith.

 

[SuF]

okay i showed you above a memory being made, and you tell me that it is not a physical thing.

did you even opened it? :huh:
"For the first time in history, scientists at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University have captured how our brain makes memories in video, watching how molecules morph into the structures that, at the end of the day, make who we are. If there's a soul, this how it gets made."

I am not disputing that memories are stored in the brain. I am disputing that memories themselves are physical. I can't look at your brain and experience a memory because a memory is not physical. It is part of your consciousness which is not itself physical although what causes it is.

 

[SuF]

We rest in our graves. Until, the Judgement Day. - cliche.
All I can say is, have faith.

Why should I have faith?

 

[Shiningkun]

I am not disputing that memories are stored in the brain. I am disputing that memories themselves are physical. I can't look at your brain and experience a memory because a memory is not physical. It is part of your consciousness which is not itself physical although what causes it is.

you still using the the "size = eye" argument.

http://www.neulaw.org/blog/1034-blog/class-blog/4101-physical-memories

if you want, you can google "MIT physical memories".
Technology takes time to evolve, so does things to be proven.

 

[SuF]

you still using the the "size = eye" argument.

http://www.neulaw.org/blog/1034-blog/class-blog/4101-physical-memories

if you want, you can google "MIT physical memories".
Technology takes time to evolve, so does things to be proven.

No I am not. That link is not relevant in any way. I can not touch memories. It is literally impossible. Memories are physically STORED. THEY ARE NOT PHYSICALLY EXPERIENCED.

 

[Revenge669]

I think that like others have said. Your brain stops working and nothingness.

 

[Shiningkun]

No I am not. That link is not relevant in any way. I can not touch memories. It is literally impossible. Memories are physically STORED. THEY ARE NOT PHYSICALLY EXPERIENCED.

yup they're not physycally experienced, but it is proven that they can be.

 

[SuF]

yup they're not physycally experienced, but it is proven that they can be.

How can they be? That has most certainly not been proven.

Edit: Let me clarify. Not experienced in the same way.

 

[Shiningkun]

How can they be? That has most certainly not been proven.

Edit: Let me clarify. Not experienced in the same way.

same way boson higgs was proven to exist.
1º it was proven by theory, then by experience.
This second part still hasn't been managed to be done with memories, just the beggining (visually)

 

[SuF]

same way boson higgs was proven to exist.
1º it was proven by theory, then by experience.
This second part still hasn't been managed to be done with memories, just the beggining (visually)

But I don't think you are say that the experience is a part of your body. What causes it obviously is, but there is a distinction.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

Does anyone here believe that there IS life after death --- in any form?

I'd be REALLY interested to hear thoughts on this from an intelligent point of view. Really interested.

 

[Almighty So]

I think you just go to sleep forever, nothing happens. Although dreaming is strange. Maybe we go into a different dimension.

 

[Shiningkun]

Does anyone here believe that there IS life after death --- in any form?

I'd be REALLY interested to hear thoughts on this from an intelligent point of view. Really interested.

i truly believe that it won't be any kind of life after death because if your "soul" is formed in your brain, when you die, you brain dies so therefore there will be nothing left from you to exist in any kind of afterlife.
But this is me, a person who is on science side. I like to know hear other person's opinion, not close minded

 

[Shiningkun]

But I don't think you are say that the experience is a part of your body. What causes it obviously is, but there is a distinction.

the distinction exists because we lack technology at the moment to say the oposite. Give it some decades(maybe centuries?) and i can assure you that there will be advances in science that will let us replicate "souls" into full cloned bodies.

 

[Swan]

No way of knowing. No point in arguing beliefs as there is no evidence to substantiate such beliefs.

Hitchen's Razor: anything presented with a lack of evidence may be dismissed with a lack of evidence, ergo beliefs can be dismissed unless there is evidence provided.

 

[Brian D Luffy]

I feel like there is a place, but not where everyone mets again.

 

[blazinfasstt]

jesus christ, the SFA has gotten even worse since the last time I was here

imo, there is nothing. no brain chemistry = no consciousness

 

[SuF]

the distinction exists because we lack technology at the moment to say the oposite. Give it some decades(maybe centuries?) and i can assure you that there will be advances in science that will let us replicate "souls" into full cloned bodies.

I am not arguing that you can not do that.

 

[Swan]

the distinction exists because we lack technology at the moment to say the oposite. Give it some decades(maybe centuries?) and i can assure you that there will be advances in science that will let us replicate "souls" into full cloned bodies.

No, you cannot assure anything of the sort. It may seem likely to you due to the advances that have been made in science and engineering in the past century, but please, if you are going to talk science then understand the principle of certainty; you think it will be likely, but that does not mean it will definitely happen.

 

[Tyler]

Swan sums up my view on this perfectly.


Hitchen's Razor: anything presented with a lack of evidence may be dismissed with a lack of evidence, ergo beliefs can be dismissed unless there is evidence provided.