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Reporting on behalf of: @Noxima92
Scammer profile: @WalsuGold @Begij (Walsu is site owner, Begij was the livechat agent at the time of the incident)
Amount Scammed: 3B 07 Gold (unfortunately, cannot be proven)
How they scammed: @Noxima92 was renting from their website and was kicked off the account (twice).
Details: (For Screenshots, and more information, mods please PM me)
On April 25th, Noxima was renting from Walsu gold and was kicked off of the account with 3B on the account. Noxima has been a long time customer of Walsugold (over 1 year, with hundreds of account rentals completed with them) and thus was not vidding as he was not expecting this to happen. When he went to ask what was going on, he notices he was banned from the livechat and banned from their discord, thus unable to contact anyone else but me (thus I am making a report on his behalf).
When I asked Begij what the reason for him being kicked off the account and banned from livechat he replied with:
Screenshot - c58c6db35981d1f10cd4da8ccd874a92 - Gyazo
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Here I'd like to point out a few things.
A. He had never bad mouthed Begij at the time of him being kick/banned
B. He said he had Walsu's permission
C. Begij claims Noxima had talked to Walsu and 'all good' when Walsu was not even online at the time.
From here on out, things get even more hectic....
I asked @Naughty for assistance with the chat log (provided the IP that Noxima was banned on) and there were NO CHAT LOGS AT ALL from that day (only old chat logs from previous usage, and no bad mouthing either). That raises some red flags. How can he be banned from livechat for 'bad mouthing' if there were no chat logs? (proof customer was banned, the IP he was on that I asked him to check, and the timestamp). I highly suspected that Begij, the worker on at the time has deleted chat logs. When I asked Naughty if Walsu gave permission to ban this user when he returned to the site, Naughty said Walsu was already asleep and that no such instructions was ever given. (Referencing point 'C' I mentioned above)
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Fast forward 8 hours.
Walsu gets on, he tells Noxima that there were 'No proof that the password was changed' and that there was 'No proof you had 3b on the account because you didnt video record'. When asked about why he was banned from livechat Walsu replied that he was confused with another customer because he didnt put in a name when using their site (thus showing up as 'visitor12345'). But that does not make sense either. As I said before, there were No chat logs at all from that day for Noxima's IP that showed him "bad mouthing", so how can you confuse Noxima with someone else when he hasn't even typed in livechat, unless someone deleted chat logs trying to cover something up. (Noxima also claims that walsu threatened him that if he made a report on Sythe, that mods will just delete it because no proof and walsu would never do business with him again, although said message has been deleted, so I can't back that statement up with proof)
Even disregarding the 3b that was lost (because of not video recording) there are still VERY questionable business practices going on here.
1. Deleting Chat logs between customer and the site.
2. Workers having access to deleting chat logs
3. Banning visitor from a site (and discord) without valid reason/warning
4. Saying that it is the customer's responsibility to have proof of their wrongdoings, but how can you provide 'proof' that a password was changed when the password reset email is theirs, and you LITERALLY cannot record typing in the password (since the password appears as **** on log in screen)
(screenshots of this conversation if mods need, message me on discord)
Fast forward to today, April 29th:
Noxima once again rents from Walsu gold (this time however, he was staking much smaller amounts, so he thought he wouldn't be targetted with the previous ordeal), and was once again kicked off the account. The reason he said they provided this time was that he was kicked off of the account because he "rented it through discord instead of the livechat". He claims (Noxima) he has video recording of this incident this time around.
Mods, please look into this situation. You and I know that this is not the first time Walsu has had a report against them. I trust Noxima's words quite heavily as he has been an active renter of Walsu's accounts for over a year, and a customer of mine for just as long. This is not a squabble of a random individual who lost his bank staking and is making a scene. This is someone who's been a loyal customer for so long, both on big win streaks and big loss streaks with no issues until now.
Somewhat relevant, but not really my place to make a report thread:
@Viking has just recently had an account he paid 800M+ to walsu recovered. (Walsu could be renting out accounts that are not his, and perhaps the original owners are taking advantage of this)
Scammer profile: @WalsuGold @Begij (Walsu is site owner, Begij was the livechat agent at the time of the incident)
Amount Scammed: 3B 07 Gold (unfortunately, cannot be proven)
How they scammed: @Noxima92 was renting from their website and was kicked off the account (twice).
Details: (For Screenshots, and more information, mods please PM me)
On April 25th, Noxima was renting from Walsu gold and was kicked off of the account with 3B on the account. Noxima has been a long time customer of Walsugold (over 1 year, with hundreds of account rentals completed with them) and thus was not vidding as he was not expecting this to happen. When he went to ask what was going on, he notices he was banned from the livechat and banned from their discord, thus unable to contact anyone else but me (thus I am making a report on his behalf).
When I asked Begij what the reason for him being kicked off the account and banned from livechat he replied with:
Screenshot - c58c6db35981d1f10cd4da8ccd874a92 - Gyazo
Screenshot - 261086331542d3b7c6017a0df6d3e569 - Gyazo
Here I'd like to point out a few things.
A. He had never bad mouthed Begij at the time of him being kick/banned
B. He said he had Walsu's permission
C. Begij claims Noxima had talked to Walsu and 'all good' when Walsu was not even online at the time.
From here on out, things get even more hectic....
I asked @Naughty for assistance with the chat log (provided the IP that Noxima was banned on) and there were NO CHAT LOGS AT ALL from that day (only old chat logs from previous usage, and no bad mouthing either). That raises some red flags. How can he be banned from livechat for 'bad mouthing' if there were no chat logs? (proof customer was banned, the IP he was on that I asked him to check, and the timestamp). I highly suspected that Begij, the worker on at the time has deleted chat logs. When I asked Naughty if Walsu gave permission to ban this user when he returned to the site, Naughty said Walsu was already asleep and that no such instructions was ever given. (Referencing point 'C' I mentioned above)
Screenshot - ce05338b580f0abfa0bd1e32388cc9b9 - Gyazo
Fast forward 8 hours.
Walsu gets on, he tells Noxima that there were 'No proof that the password was changed' and that there was 'No proof you had 3b on the account because you didnt video record'. When asked about why he was banned from livechat Walsu replied that he was confused with another customer because he didnt put in a name when using their site (thus showing up as 'visitor12345'). But that does not make sense either. As I said before, there were No chat logs at all from that day for Noxima's IP that showed him "bad mouthing", so how can you confuse Noxima with someone else when he hasn't even typed in livechat, unless someone deleted chat logs trying to cover something up. (Noxima also claims that walsu threatened him that if he made a report on Sythe, that mods will just delete it because no proof and walsu would never do business with him again, although said message has been deleted, so I can't back that statement up with proof)
Even disregarding the 3b that was lost (because of not video recording) there are still VERY questionable business practices going on here.
1. Deleting Chat logs between customer and the site.
2. Workers having access to deleting chat logs
3. Banning visitor from a site (and discord) without valid reason/warning
4. Saying that it is the customer's responsibility to have proof of their wrongdoings, but how can you provide 'proof' that a password was changed when the password reset email is theirs, and you LITERALLY cannot record typing in the password (since the password appears as **** on log in screen)
(screenshots of this conversation if mods need, message me on discord)
Fast forward to today, April 29th:
Noxima once again rents from Walsu gold (this time however, he was staking much smaller amounts, so he thought he wouldn't be targetted with the previous ordeal), and was once again kicked off the account. The reason he said they provided this time was that he was kicked off of the account because he "rented it through discord instead of the livechat". He claims (Noxima) he has video recording of this incident this time around.
Mods, please look into this situation. You and I know that this is not the first time Walsu has had a report against them. I trust Noxima's words quite heavily as he has been an active renter of Walsu's accounts for over a year, and a customer of mine for just as long. This is not a squabble of a random individual who lost his bank staking and is making a scene. This is someone who's been a loyal customer for so long, both on big win streaks and big loss streaks with no issues until now.
Somewhat relevant, but not really my place to make a report thread:
@Viking has just recently had an account he paid 800M+ to walsu recovered. (Walsu could be renting out accounts that are not his, and perhaps the original owners are taking advantage of this)
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