Walsugold Formal Scam Report

Scammer's profile link: Walsugold
Amount scammed: $1600 USD
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: Screen capture - db90ba9bfd40b131517eb6a4e1e8ae57 - Gyazo

https://imgur.com/a/rpQ3cwH
Explanation of the trade: In body below, but short story is 2 accounts + an RSN
How they scammed: Recovery of accounts
Other relevant trade screenshots: See imgur links in body below


Only making this thread now as I see he's recently started becoming active on Sythe again and want to avoid others making the same mistake I did in trusting him. This is a follow-up to a previous issue I had with him, all stemming from an account purchased from him in 2019.

The TL;DR of the original situation is that I purchased a 227x total level OSRS account from him, that he originally claimed he was the original owner of. I trained it to 2277, got all achiev diaries, bought a very rare RSN, built the bank, etc. I invested probably over 500 hours into the account within the three months of purchase. It was recovered, and although he initially offered a full refund when I was inquiring about purchasing the account, he only offered me partial repayment through an OSRS account and GP. Further, the recoverer (apparently not him) kept the RSN and to my knowledge has held onto it since.

Conversation logs of the original purchase and subsequent recovery can be found here:
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After the account was recovered, he claimed he was talking with the original owner (news to me) to attempt to recover the account. Two attempts at recovery "failed". He reluctantly offered a new account, 2100 or so total, and 2b GP to cover my losses (which didn't even cover half the amount of GP/USD lost on the original account). I agreed because I was worried if I declined this offer he'd just move on, as at this point his replies were sporadic and short.

Again, conversation logs can be found here:
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6 months later, this account was also recovered. He has since ignored all messages sent to him via his discord, and thus leads me to this post herein.

Not looking for any sort of compensation, just trying to see he can't scam another person with his donor/account's reputation. There was an original scam report submission from me about him many years ago, but it looks like it's been pruned/removed since.

Happy to provide any further proof as necessary.

 

hey man, apologies on the delayed reply. Currently on vacation for a week now, but I think Walsu used to own a website that had all his account sales terms. Omitting that since it’s no longer available, there were some standard terms he touched on in the discord DMs I provided; main one being that he claimed he would fully reimburse if the account was recovered. I re-uploaded the conversation logs below (they are attached in my original post but for brevity just the pertinent messages are included below):

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I will login and check this thread sporadically while on vacation, apologies if replies are spotty or take longer than desirable.

Let me know if you need anything else!

 

Firstly, I want to express my apologies for the distress and inconvenience this situation has caused you. When I sold the account, I believed the transaction was fair and conducted in good faith. After the original account was recovered, I took steps to remedy the situation by offering you a new account and in-game currency, as we had agreed upon. I understand that this situation has caused you a great deal of stress and disappointment, and I truly wish I could have done more to prevent it.



Moving forward, I would like to focus on resolving the issue in a way that leaves both parties satisfied, or at least with clarity. As I mentioned earlier, I had previously run a website with terms of service and a final contract of sale. However, I no longer have any data from that time, as things have changed significantly since 2018 and I no longer engage in active trading.



After compensating you with the RSN you claim to have lost and the GP, I gave you the new account and gp that was mine. I simply felt bamboozled when you informed me that the account was being recovered.

 

Sorry, I just don’t buy it. Look at our last few DMs; I messaged you once in 2021 notifying you that the account was getting spam recovery requests; plenty of time for us to take action to prevent its recovery. Then a year after not hearing from you I informed you that unless you were able to assist I would be posting a scam report. That was 4 years ago with not even an ounce of sympathy or even a singular recovery attempt to assist me. I don’t buy your apology.

but sure, we can move on and resolve this. I’d like compensation to the tune of 5 billion in OSRS gold. This is already less than what I think you scammed, but if you are actively trying to apologize (I am doubtful), then I think 5 billion is sufficient as all I have to show for the over $1700 trade was 500m given to me in 2018 from you. This also isn’t to mention that in 2018 $1700 in gold would’ve fetched a lot more than currently. I think if you’re being serious about wanting to amend things, that is the absolute minimum I’d be content with receiving.

 

We agreed on compensation that suited you at the time, and you accepted the terms and received exactly the compensation you asked for. You wanted to make the account “secure” and change all the information from mine to yours, which took a little while. Then you said the character was locked and asked for compensation again.

The first character was a complete flop I fully admit that which is why I’ve been willing to help, resolve the issue, and offer compensation. But with the second character, I didn’t take any risks. You were the one who made the first credit card purchases, changed the password, and set up the recovery options just as you wanted.

 

I’m sorry, so you’re saying the fact that the second account was recovered absolves you of any sort of wrongdoing? Or requiring further compensation? You also chose to leave out that it took you over a month to provide any sort of assistance on a recovery attempt, and only offered that compensation after I made a scam report thread on Sythe.

Also even if I tried securing the account, so what? You’re selling accounts on Sythe you claim are safe and won’t get recovered. Yet in my experience dealing with you, I have two examples of the opposite.

I didn’t expect compensation when I made this second formal report against you, as I remember your behaviour from the first; I just wanted to try and help save the community from also making the same mistake I did. It sounds like you don’t see yourself as guilty, unsure how, but in that case I guess it’s up to Sythe staff to determine the penalty.

I’m out $1500 (I’ll be nice and say the 550m I got is worth $200) across two accounts from you with nothing to show for it. Two accounts you claimed were safe.

 

Hi, was only given an "original" email to the main account purchased. Which is very obviously a throwaway email, as I just logged in for the first time since 2019 to 1 new email. Spam recovery attempts can be seen here: imgur.com

As for the 2nd account and its recovery spam, it may be lost to time. I will check my emails over the next few hours, but I think that if it was just saved to my main email I would've deleted them after some years. Let me get back to you.

Edit: After checking my emails, looks like it was deleted from them. I likely deleted them after the second account was recovered and seeing Walsu inactive on Sythe. I honestly didn't expect to be posting here w/ this thread 4 years later sorry.

 

Actually, I did find additional emails relating to the 2nd account which can be found here:
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I also recorded a video proving that submitting a new recovery attempt on the second account does not relay to the email I registered to the account upon securing it from Walsu, although I will not share it publicly as it has personal emails in the video which have severely personal information in them (I can send this via DM If requested).

 

I gave you the account on 07/03/2019. You told me it was recovered on 13/12/2019, but now you're showing us screenshots from 2021. Was the account actually recovered the first time you told me, or not?

 

Much like in our dms, the first account was recovered 2019/03/03. You did NOT give me an account at the dates you specified above, and the DMs I’ve previously posted prove that. I received the account on 2018/12/19. You’re trying to be deceitful here after there’s already evidence contrary to what you’re claiming.

 

To add, the message from 2019/12/13 is about the maxed account (the first account purchased, recovered 2019/03/03). I was tracking it on crystalmathlabs and watched it gain XP. After you told me it was lost.

 

I’m referring to the second account. As stated previously, the first account was a failure on my part. It was meant to be safe, and I did try to help with the recovery, but unfortunately, it was unsuccessful. That’s why I compensated you with the amount we both agreed on.

I believe there’s no need to keep discussing the first account anymore I’ve taken responsibility and paid for my mistakes for that.

 

I think it’s directly relevant here, as I never intended to purchase or acquire the second account; you offered it as compensation instead of just RSGP. I’m not looking for “compensation” on just the second account as it now ties back into my first scam report since I have neither of the two accounts. The reason I’m opening this second scam report is because you’re active on Sythe again trying to sell accounts and I have proof of two accounts being recovered that you claim are/were safe and came with “original” emails.

I’m not sure any productive discussion is happening here @Kanye, if you have any other requests for information I’m happy to provide further details as needed.

 

Only thing I'd like to add is there was a TOS on the first account outlined on Walsu's old website, which I don't have access to. Purchase was made on his website. No TOS agreed on the secondary account per se, although as detailed in previous DM screenshots "We would like offer as compensate that account i listed you earlier its confirmed safe account (i know you have little trust on us) but we made extra safelty checks on this account we have every detail about seller according home adress and social security number etc.." which to me implies no risk in recovery.

And I'm not really interested in assistance, I know Walsu isn't interested in paying out RSGP for the accounts he's scammed, as he wouldn't before and only offered an account substitution. I am making this post to hopefully get him banned/permanently DNT so that others don't trust him with any accounts they're looking to purchase.

 

I tried to dig up data from the old website, but the information wasn’t stored in the cloud, so most of it is missing since the site hasn't been active for a long time. I believe the timeline is accurate and doesn't need double-checking. The difference between the accounts’ trades was due to the replacement account being altered its emails and details were changed from the originals to his. On the first account, everything remained original, which would have made my recovery attempt much harder. Since I was the only previous owner of that account, I wasn’t even interested in helping.

 

Just want to say this is probably *the* most incriminating reply on this thread. Let me remind you, he claims that I was given all the "original" information to the account, and a recovery attempt was (apparently) made from his IP which was unsuccessful. So either I was given fake "original" information, a recovery attempt was never made, or it was made and he just kept the account. Keep in mind my DM from 2019, where someone actively starts playing the now maxed account. He has yet to comment on this - his original sales pitch was that he had all the original info, as seen here: imgur.com So either I'm to believe he doesn't have all the original info, or does and chooses not to help. His comment about "everything remaining original" would've made it *much* easier from his IP (if it was actually his account), not harder.

As for the second account, he has yet to comment on what he believes happened, or even acknowledge its been recovered as well. He claims he was the only previous owner, but that is directly contrasted by our DMs where he says "We would like offer as compensate that account i listed you earlier its confirmed safe account (i know you have little trust on us) but we made extra safelty checks on this account we have every detail about seller according home adress and social security number etc.." and later "Creation IP actualy will be mine, its My mate account so i am able show my real IP to internet as website owner it make my website less secure even i doubt you would do anything but hope u understand that IP is only "recovery" account would have all others are blanket spots" (seen here: imgur.com) which literally is him saying HE ISN'T THE ORIGINAL OWNER and that ONLY HE CAN RECOVER THE SECOND ACCOUNT. I'm quote tweeting his above reply before he realizes he's tripped up on his own defense.

There are so many red flags here and he hasn't even attempted to address any of them. I could post more criticisms to his attempted defense but I feel like these two are the most glaring