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Its a shame that you're angry at the staff for what Finn did. Just remember that we were all under his authority, and we could do nothing about it.

Only idiots fight losing battles.

I think I pretty much speak for marrow when I say this is TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!

Couldn't do anything about? Nah, try WOULDN'T do anything about it. In fact, it was the small select few people on the staff that decided to turn their backs that helped end the entire tyrant ruling... Without them, none of that would have been possible. The rest of you were scared.

It's a shame that even after Finn is gone that you don't regret not helping uncover all of those lies that lost so many outstanding members of Sythe. It was possible, and it was done. You should always hold the communities best interest in mind even when it means taking down the big boys. And if you don't feel that way, you shouldn't be on the staff.

This is like being in the police force, watching your colleges commit numerous crimes and not bringing any attention to it. At the end of the day, you're all guilty.

Under his authority, what a joke.


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On another note, I want to say take it easy in life Marrow and I really haven't cared for 3 doors down since kryptonite up until the release of their new single

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being around for the majority of finn's reign i can completely empathize with how you felt. that shit was the worse, and like you, finn being kept around for so long still carries resentment in me.

i even managed to be promoted to staff in mid 2011, and it wasn't long before i realized and understood what finn was actually about. it sucked.

floydzeppelin, sorry buddy but you have no idea what corey means when he says "stuck under his authority". if finn so much as found a reason to not like you, you were demoted somehow. a staff position you worked your ass off for would be gone in seconds if you tried to speak out against finn as a lowly sectional/global. you seriously could not do anything about it. i remember having thoughts as a sectional that one day i'd try and convince an administrator (they were all bum buddies so i knew it would be impossible) to stop finn's absurd bullshit.
 
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I don't think you guys appreciate what a sticky situation it is when a sociopath makes their way onto staff. They are naturally drawn to power and are good at bullshiting. But what's harder is they also tend to do good work at least from the vantage point of other staff and they are especially good at covering stuff up.

That said, I am still of the opinion that he wasn't as bad as you all say while he was here. I mean you guys all say I'm terrible and that n4n0 is terrible, and that Govind is terrible and so on and so forth. And I know these guys pretty well, and they're not.

My suspicion is that scammers masquerading as legit users come here and try to stir up resentment toward staff that are effectively blocking their scamming operations. And then you guys jump on board because you have a natural disposition to challenge authority -- regardless of whether or not the authority is legitimate. You're basically letting yourselves get played twice by scammers, once for hearts and minds, and then once again for your pocketbook when theres no vigilant staff left to offer protection.

Finally: We tend only to act on hard evidence, so if you want staff demoted go get that evidence. I will personally read any hard evidence against staff. You can send it straight to [email protected] or PM it to me. Put the word EVIDENCE in the title so I know to check it.

I think I pretty much speak for marrow when I say this is TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!

Couldn't do anything about? Nah, try WOULDN'T do anything about it. In fact, it was the small select few people on the staff that decided to turn their backs that helped end the entire tyrant ruling... Without them, none of that would have been possible. The rest of you were scared.

It's a shame that even after Finn is gone that you don't regret not helping uncover all of those lies that lost so many outstanding members of Sythe. It was possible, and it was done. You should always hold the communities best interest in mind even when it means taking down the big boys. And if you don't feel that way, you shouldn't be on the staff.

This is like being in the police force, watching your colleges commit numerous crimes and not bringing any attention to it. At the end of the day, you're all guilty.

Under his authority, what a joke.


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On another note, I want to say take it easy in life Marrow and I really haven't cared for 3 doors down since kryptonite up until the release of their new single

[youtube]alKUu4g-HM0[/youtube]
 
There were always a few staff members astutely opposed to Finn. Essentially, Finn has his group of supporters while the other side worked on getting their numbers up covertly. It was a slow process.
 
@sythe - To clarify a little bit, I just want to say that from a personal stand point, I've never thought anything bad about N4n0 or Govind (especially), for that matter.

I also assumed you yourself banned finn (though I could be wrong), and I never once doubted that you'll take action against anyone who demeans your site in any way.

My point is, if these "staff members" were to have come forward to you sooner with compiled evidence, I have no doubt in my mind you would have handled it. However, there were A LOT of people who were scared too come forth (When they could have done something - They really could have!), that's where I'm upset mostly.

Also, a lot of us shared the same idea about Finn at the time which definitely wasn't true about the other admins.

I do agree that he played his roles very well (on the site), and knew where, when, and how to use that power for essentially anything he wanted.
 
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Some of the replies on this thread have made me smile. I'm glad that I'm able to explain some of my thoughts.

Ill add some more to this soon. I already know what I want to say, I just have to get it all down.



P.s as much as it sounds like I'm a mental wreck, I'm actually quite fine. I guess I just felt like I had to say something about it. Get it all out. I'm still marrow lol.
 
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FireZ is someone I probably will never respect. He was one of the many staff who sat back and did nothing while Finn was on his reign of evil. He let Finn carry out death warrants. He only opposed him when he knew his account wouldn't face any repercussions. He's a total coward.

Finn was by far the biggest manipulator ever. All we can say is we all make mistakes, I'm just glad this can hopefully never happen again.

The fact that FireZ supported his pardon infuriated me. That is why I still have the Plznate piece in my signature even after his pardon has long since been buried. Like I've said before, I value time. I can't understand how they were able to do what they did. I sincerely hope they're never unbanned

I know Nate much more then most people on this site. Not to mention I'm not the only staff member who has ever supported his pardons.
 
being around for the majority of finn's reign i can completely empathize with how you felt. that shit was the worse, and like you, finn being kept around for so long still carries resentment in me.

i even managed to be promoted to staff in mid 2011, and it wasn't long before i realized and understood what finn was actually about. it sucked.

floydzeppelin, sorry buddy but you have no idea what corey means when he says "stuck under his authority". if finn so much as found a reason to not like you, you were demoted somehow. a staff position you worked your ass off for would be gone in seconds if you tried to speak out against finn as a lowly sectional/global. you seriously could not do anything about it. i remember having thoughts as a sectional that one day i'd try and convince an administrator (they were all bum buddies so i knew it would be impossible) to stop finn's absurd bullshit.

I guess my question then is why would anyone want to be on such a staff? I can honestly say that if I was working for someone and similar situations occurred, I'd fight it and I'd fight it to the end. Get kicked out, banned, the whole enchilada. Actually true story, I did that exact thing at my last real-life job and I got fired for it, but you know what I took care of business and then I single-handedly took down the MF'ers who were wrong.

Fuck the position, even if I worked my ass off to get it, ethics/morals over that shit ANY. DAY. OF. THE. WEEK.
 
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Added a second part. It completely covers the trolling aspect of the site and I finish of with my final thoughts on FID. I will talk about it no more

Later on I plan on posting my experiences with certain members and why I view them in certain ways. Ill write that up later when I have time.
 
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When were you banned? And what was the rough time estimate you were on staff? I want to go look up a few things
 
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Added a second part. It completely covers the trolling aspect of the site and I finish of with my final thoughts on FID. I will talk about it no more

Later on I plan on posting my experiences with certain members and why I view them in certain ways. Ill write that up later when I have time.

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When were you banned? And what was the rough time estimate you were on staff? I want to go look up a few things

Day after fid.

I was on for about 4 months.
 
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Some of the replies on this thread have made me smile. I'm glad that I'm able to explain some of my thoughts.

Ill add some more to this soon. I already know what I want to say, I just have to get it all down.



P.s as much as it sounds like I'm a mental wreck, I'm actually quite fine. I guess I just felt like I had to say something about it. Get it all out. I'm still marrow lol.

I actually look forward to this
 
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