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The "War" in Iraq

I've always believed this scenario was to do with money, money, money, and oil. From the very start. It usually is.

The troops should not still reside in Iraq, unless there is any genuine necessary cause for them to do so. (At current, I don't think there is.)

No more civilians of any countries should die for no reason.
 
[N]ick;2324576 said:
As a strong Republican, I still support Bush. You guys are going to say, "our troops are stuck over there or whatever". Well I know, my older brother is currently serving in the U.S Air Force in Iraq. The news doesn't display it, but the millions of Iraq citizens are happy we are over there, besides the small group of terrorists. So in all, yes I think we should stay in Iraq, but we should set a timeline to get out in the next couple years. As another thing, saying we invaded Iraq for the oil? That's like saying September11th was fucking planned. The government is being given an evil side, just because people disagree with them.

Yea i agree, my brothers in the air force as well and he said the iraqi people are happy we are there...just the liberal owned newstations show all the bad things, none of the good. I also have a friend that works pretty high up in the media, and he asked one of the reporters why they only show all the bad things happening over there, and they said because America will believe anything we tell them.
 
Yea i agree, my brothers in the air force as well and he said the iraqi people are happy we are there...just the liberal owned newstations show all the bad things, none of the good. I also have a friend that works pretty high up in the media, and he asked one of the reporters why they only show all the bad things happening over there, and they said because America will believe anything we tell them.

I have an uncle in iraq, he says the people want us out. Maybe thats why they try to blow us up every day?
 
I have an uncle in iraq, he says the people want us out. Maybe thats why they try to blow us up every day?
I have a close friend in Iraq, and he says Iraqish people definitely doesn't find solicitude in the U.S. marines being there. The way they attempt to blow them up daily does kind of speak for itself.
 
ur confusing the iraqi citizens with the iraqi terrorists...the people that blow up the police stations and blow off car bombs are the iraqi terrorists, the innocent citizens that live their day-to-day lives are the citizens that are happy we are there.
 
Just because your brother is in the Air Force does not mean that you still have to support Bush, you know.

That's funny. Most unbiased surveys show that the majority of Iraqis want us out RIGHT NOW.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601721.html
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/home_page/165.php?nid=&id=&pnt=165&lb=hmpg2
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-04-28-poll-cover_x.htm

Also, my Dad's cousin has a friend living in Baghdad, and he says that public opinion is pretty much unified against the United States.

Why do you disagree with the statement "we invaded Iraq for the oil"? Surely you have some evidence that we didn't?

Those surveys, think about it. The people who would really want to go vote, or be included in this vote, would be angry. People are willing to complain and try to get their way. For example, I will try and use this forum. In the feedback forum, their are more posts of people complaining, then thanking.

And regarding the disagreement of the statement "we invaded Iraq for oil". I believe we invaded Iraq for other reasons such as supporting the war on terror.

10 Ways The Liberation OF Iraq Supports The War On Terror
With the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime, Iraq is no longer a state sponsor of terror. According to State Department reports on terrorism, before the removal of Saddam's regime, Iraq was one of seven state sponsors of terror.
Saddam Hussein's regime posed a threat to the security of the United States and the world. With the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime, a leader who pursued, used, and possessed weapons of mass destruction is no longer in power.
Saddam Hussein would not uphold his international commitments, and now that he is no longer in power, the world is safe from this tyrant. The old Iraqi regime defied the international community and seventeen UN resolutions for twelve years and gave every indication that it would never disarm and never comply with the just demands of the world.
A senior al Qaida terrorist, now detained, who had been responsible for al Qaida training camps in Afghanistan, reports that al Qaida was intent on obtaining WMD assistance from Iraq. According to a credible, high-level al Qaida source, Usama Bin Laden and deceased al Qaida leader Muhammad Atif did not believe that al Qaida labs in Afghanistan were capable of manufacturing chemical and biological weapons, so they turned to Iraq for assistance. Iraq agreed to provide chemical and biological weapons training for two al Qaida associates starting in December 2000.
Senior al Qaida associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi came to Baghdad in May 2002 for medical treatment along with approximately two dozen al Qaida terrorist associates. This group stayed in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq and plotted terrorist attacks around the world.
A safe haven in Iraq belonging to Ansar al-Islam -- a terrorist group closely associated with Zarqawi and al Qaida -- was destroyed during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In March 2003, during a raid on the compound controlled by the terrorists in northeastern Iraq, a cache of documents was discovered, including computer discs and foreign passports belonging to fighters from various Middle East nationalities.
The al Qaida affiliate Ansar al-Islam is known to still be present in Iraq. Such terrorist groups are now plotting against U.S. forces in Iraq.
Law enforcement and intelligence operations have disrupted al Qaida associate Abu Musab Zarqawi's poison plotting in France, Britain, Spain, Italy, Germany, and Russia. The facilities in Northern Iraq, set up by Zarqawi and Ansar al-Islam were, before the war, an al Qaida's poisons/toxins laboratory.
Abu Musa Zarqawi, the al Qaida associate with direct links to Iraq, oversaw those responsible for the assassination of USAID officer Laurence Foley in Amman, Jordan last October.
Saddam Hussein's Iraq provided material assistance to Palestinian terrorist groups, including the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, HAMAS, and the Palestine Islamic Jihad, according to a State Department report. This included paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, according to testimonials from Palestinians and cancelled checks. Also, according to State Department reports, terrorist groups the Iranian Mujahedin-e-Khalq and the Abu Nidal organization were protected by the Iraqi regime protected by the Iraqi regime.

And...

People say Iraq is not progressing-

New Iraqi army and police forces are being recruited, trained, and equipped. Some 1,200 Iraqis will be trained this year for the new Iraqi army, and in two years, 40,000 army recruits will be trained.
Fifty-eight of 89 Iraqi cities have hired police forces. In total, 34,000 Iraqis are employed in patrolling the streets of their country, and of these, 30,000 Iraqis are currently patrolling with coalition forces.
More than 8,200 tons of ammunition, thousands of AK-47s, grenades, and other weapons have been seized throughout Iraq -- much of which was stored by the Hussein regime in hospitals, schools, and mosques.
The CPA has hired more than 11,000 Iraqis to guard key facilities around the country.
Coalition forces, with information from an Iraqi, conducted operations that lead to the deaths of Uday and Qusay Hussein following their refusal to surrender. To date, 37 of the top 55 most wanted Iraqis have been captured or killed. With the deaths of Uday and Qusay, more and more Iraqis are freed from their fear and are volunteering their services and information.
Coalition forces continue to take the offensive against the remnants of the Ba'athist regime who are targeting the sites and symbols of reconstruction and stabilization successes.
An Iraqi Civil Defense Force will help U.S. and Coalition forces in rooting out Saddam loyalists and criminal gangs who have been attacking military forces and obstructing reconstruction efforts. Four thousand Iraqi militiamen will be trained by U.S. troops over the next eight weeks.
In Basra, 500 river police have been patrolling since June 19.
Some 148,000 U.S. service members and more than 13,000 Coalition troops from 19 countries are serving in Iraq.
Most of Iraq is calm and progress on the road to democracy and freedom not experienced in decades continues. Only in isolated areas are there still attacks.

Sources-

http://www.whitehouse.gov/
 
ur confusing the iraqi citizens with the iraqi terrorists...the people that blow up the police stations and blow off car bombs are the iraqi terrorists, the innocent citizens that live their day-to-day lives are the citizens that are happy we are there.

No, the citizens, by and large, want us out.
 
It's so damn simple. We aren't there to help, we're there to get rich, to get oil, and to get more power. And our tax dollars are doing it. God i can't wait till i can move out of this country.
I agree 100%
 
Sk8ordie is an idiot. Your quoting the white house, what an unbiased source.
:rolleyes:
 
Then they're biased, or you're lying. Besides, how many people that have been to Iraq have you talked to?

4 people: Brother, 2 of his friends, and my english teacher's son thats in the Marine Corps.



O and Slave.....when did i quote the whitehouse lawl?

i think u confused me with someone else :/
 
i'll believe people that have actually been there and seen how it is before i believe a survey on the internet.

The survey is based on real people. We do not need to be in iraq.

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yes. real people on the internet.

Have you no comprehension skills? A survey of people who FUCKING LIVE IN FUCKING IRAQ is quite relevant.
 
please show me a fucking survey that was given to iraqi people, plz.

We already gave you the link, jesus, just get out of this thread.
 
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