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How was matter created? Where did evergy come from?

Many scientists have proved that spontanious generation does not occur. However, scientists have proven that energy cannot by created from scratch.

Discuss scientifically how matter/energy was created.
 
There are alot of theories but the real fact is we may never be able to know. We do see things that violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics though. Micro-black holes present in the Quantum Foam pop in and out of existence by borrowing energy. Some scientists speculate that if one of these could borrow enough energy that it could come into permanent existence. Some people think that this could have had something to do with sparking the Big Bang.Thats just one of the possible explanations though.
 
theres no such thing as life ;) or anything, for that matter.

its all just an optical illusion =s. hah =P

no but for real, I think we all started from one molecule and grew, or however the scientific theory went, I don't think that a god created us, its to far fetched tbh..
 
stankinrange said:
theres no such thing as life ;) or anything, for that matter.

its all just an optical illusion =s. hah =P

no but for real, I think we all started from one molecule and grew, or however the scientific theory went, I don't think that a god created us, its to far fetched tbh..
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Existence exists. It cannot be an illusion from itself.

dpunk said:
Some scientists speculate that if one of these could borrow enough energy that it could come into permanent existence.
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The thing I don't like about that idea is that it doesn't explain where that energy, or existence, for that matter, comes from. :(
 
How can something be created out of nothing? The universe must have bin created by someone or something!
 
Everything came from God. He created this whole world.

~ Ibrahim Al :)
 
Krypton6 said:
How can something be created out of nothing? The universe must have bin created by someone or something!
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It either started from something, or has always existed.

Ibrahim Al said:
Everything came from God. He created this whole world.

~ Ibrahim Al :)
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Oh. Where's your empirical evidence of this?
 
Shredderbeam said:
It either started from something, or has always existed.

Oh. Where's your empirical evidence of this?
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He has no evidence, he just wants to keep up his 12 post per day average and sign his name at the end of a one sentence post.

It's difficult for people to imagine something "has always existed". Many folks have trouble getting by the human concepts that everything has to begin and eventually end. It's rare I meet a religious person who can answer the question "where did God come from", and those who answer "he always existed" can't tell me why the concept of the Big Bang is impossible.
 
Schredder is it not impossible for something to always have existed?

God is not "something", god is bigger than what we could ever imagine him to be. Our brains have its boundaries for thinking, and that is why we cannot answer the questions, such as how he was created, what he is, how he looks and how he have always existed.

Basically I just wanna say that, the basic laws of this universe are there for gods creations, and not actully for himself.
 
Krypton6 said:
Schredder is it not impossible for something to always have existed?

God is not "something", god is bigger than what we could ever imagine him to be. Our brains have its boundaries for thinking, and that is why we cannot answer the questions, such as how he was created, what he is, how he looks and how he have always existed.

Basically I just wanna say that, the basic laws of this universe are there for gods creations, and not actully for himself.
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It is not impossible for something to have always existed, no.

God is still subject to logic. If you state that he can create a square circle, then that is incorrect.
 
Krypton6 said:
How can something be created out of nothing? The universe must have bin created by someone or something!
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How could your God be created from nothing?

Basically, to believe God created the universe you would believe the universe is a static (still) universe. In science, a staitic universe corilates with infinate existance. Yet another contradiction.

The big bang theory suggests the universe did "start". It's based on the fact that the universe is expanding and therefore must have at one point in the past been and infinatly dense atom of sorts.

Point being it's funny that the big bang relates to "God" more than the other idea of a still universe...

And no, I can't say where the matter came from, the basic idea is that the universe was infinatly smaller meaning it never actually "began", impossible to comprehend, but yea. Trying to use "God" as an answer for something we have yet to understand is silly.
 
Steady state theory, that the matter has always been there, works, if you factor in constant Big Bangs and Big Crunches.
 
dpunk said:
There are alot of theories but the real fact is we may never be able to know. We do see things that violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics though. Micro-black holes present in the Quantum Foam pop in and out of existence by borrowing energy. Some scientists speculate that if one of these could borrow enough energy that it could come into permanent existence. Some people think that this could have had something to do with sparking the Big Bang.Thats just one of the possible explanations though.
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They don't pop in and out of existence, they basically teleport through solid matter.
 
“I cannot imagine how the clockwork of the universe can exist without a clockmaker.” ~Voltaire
 
Stove Pan said:
not sure on that one but i think e=mc(squared) is about something like energy can not be created nor destroyed... thus proving "something" or "someone" created everything.. .
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Thank you for that insightful outlook on the subject...

Oh, by the way. There is a show on the History channel called "The Universe" that has an episode that is great regarding the big bang theory and other theory's such as einstein's static theory and hubble's theory's etc.
 
Stove Pan said:
not sure on that one but i think e=mc(squared) is about something like energy can not be created nor destroyed... thus proving "something" or "someone" created everything.. .
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e=mc^2 means that energy and matter can change into each other.
 
Stove Pan said:
not sure on that one but i think e=mc(squared) is about something like energy can not be created nor destroyed... thus proving "something" or "someone" created everything.. .
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DarbySniper is correct. E=MC^2 is the simplified version of the Einsteinian equation that sought to equate matter and energy.
 
These 2 guys once created the building blocks of life in a flask. What were the building blocks? Amino Acids. I will try to find the name of the experiment when i get back from work.
 
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