The Quran and science

[Krypton6]

I know that boiling removes any bacterias, but you gotta be honest.
Who boils the meat before making food out of it?

How can Rheumatism not have anything to do with it, when the blood can contain diseases related to it in some ways.

I actully didnt read any other than the link you gave.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I know that boiling removes any bacterias, but you gotta be honest.
Who boils the meat before making food out of it?

How can Rheumatism not have anything to do with it, when the blood can contain diseases related to it in some ways.

I actully didnt read any other than the link you gave.

Most people cook it.

Generally, rheumatism tends to mean arthritis, which has nothing to do with any bacteria/diseases at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheumatism

 

[Krypton6]

Isnt it possible for an animal to have that disease, and by consuming their blood, can increase the chance of your self being hit by rheumatism.

Regarding the cooking thing, I have never heard or seen anyone cook the meat. Especially in restuarants.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Rheumatism is a condition. It's like having stiff muscles after you run a race.

You've never heard of somebody cooking meat before they eat it?

 

[Krypton6]

I have since many I know ussaly do it, but I´ve never seen it being done in restuarants.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Well, having worked in a few restaurants before, I can assure you that they do indeed cook their food.

 

[jaamal]

Yeah, they have to cook the meat untill the bacteria dies off. In resturants if someone gets sick from your food it can be a health violation and you may be shut down...

 

[Krypton6]

I see.
Well since it is not allowed for an muslim to drink some one elses blood, it counts towards animals aswell I guess.
Blood does no good, so why consume it with the meat.
There might be more behind this though.

 

[jaamal]

I see.
Well since it is not allowed for an muslim to drink some one elses blood, it counts towards animals aswell I guess.
Blood does no good, so why consume it with the meat.
There might be more behind this though.

SOme people believe that if you cook the food complete to where there is no blood it drys out, has no flavor and it is not as tender. Most people I think do it for personal reasons.

 

[Krypton6]

I RARELY eat meat containing blood, and when I do its mostly chicken.
I find it disgusting, and can barely get it down.
And that is even though it was halal slaughtered, so I cant imagine how it would taist if it wasent.

 

[jaamal]

I don't like meat with blood as well, but I have 2 friends that love steak and they always eat it with a little blood, they claim it is more tender and that it doesn't rob the meat of its natural flavors. They also claim it is eay on the teeth.

 

[Krypton6]

When the animal is alive, as far as I know, the blood is not a part of the meat it and flesh it self. It is only when the animal is dead, and the blood has no way out, that it becomes a part of the meat.
Which means that blood in the meat is not natural.

 

[jaamal]

When the animal is alive, as far as I know, the blood is not a part of the meat it and flesh it self. It is only when the animal is dead, and the blood has no way out, that it becomes a part of the meat.
Which means that blood in the meat is not natural.

But the veins carry blood through the animals flesh so it is technically natural. And if it has no way out then where is it? it is in the meat...

 

[Krypton6]

Yes but veins are there for a reason.
If there were no veins it would make the blood natural.

Most of the non muslim butchers, kill the animal, by taking an hammer and a large iron nale, and hit it through the skull of the animal, til it reachs the brain and dies.
When that hapends, the animal has no large veins cut through, so the blood has no way of comming out.
But when it is Halal slaughtered, the larger veins in the neck are cut through, and the much of the blood which the animal contained comes out.

The veins in the meat are there to make shure, that the blood is not mixed with the meat.

 

[jaamal]

But when something dies its heart stops beating, so the blood will not be completely pumped out, so unless you remove the all the veins like you can do in come shrimp you can not avoid blood unless you cook it out... I understand that they hope that it will pump out of the major arteray in the neck but it will not all come out...

 

[Krypton6]

Ofcourse not all will come out, and I wrote that.
But most of it comes out, and the blood in the meat is dramatically reduced.
And even if you boil the meat, there will still be more blood in the non halal than the halal.

 

[birdy ftw]

This really makes me want to take a harder look at the quaran, I personally think with that much writing in it its easy to see some refrences to things that would happen, but I don't know enough to say one way or the other.

 

[dpunk]

I laugh at these. They are really digging the grave for a lot of these.

Yunus: Amazingly the Holy Quraan in chapter 31, verse 29 says, "Have you not seen how God merges the night into the day and merges the day into the night." The use of the word merges emphasizes a slow gradual change, and this is not possible if the earth is flat.

I mean come on.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I laugh at these. They are really digging the grave for a lot of these.


I mean come on.

A lot of those do seem to be quite a stretch.

 

[Krypton6]

I laugh at these. They are really digging the grave for a lot of these.


I mean come on.

Whats up with it ?
At that time the bibel had written that the earth was flat.